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Football Thread 13/14 |OT14| Juan Flew Into The Slug's Nest
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On the bright side Mata has 3 assists in 3 games, which is pretty good considering.
But yes, yesterday was as clear a message as possible that we lack the quality for wing play, im sure he will pick up on this, whether he has the resources to change it before summer, im not sure.
Piratebay.
Sal accept my follow request yo. What kind of relationship is this
On the plus side, things can only go up from here.
Diablo Rosso
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I've always felt Moyes was the wrong choice and even I didn't think it would be this bad. The problem is that if he was sacked now who would replace him?
Aye you're right, but our remaining away games are:
Fulham
Southampton
Man Utd
Cardiff
West Ham
Norwich
Palace
Despite our indifferent away form, I'd fancy us to win 4 or 5 of those. By the time you come to Anfield, it's feasible that we could be 9 or 10 points ahead because of how tough your games preceding it are.
Thats the point. There is simply no manager available at the moment that could really improve the situation in Manchester. Things will get interesting in summer when some good coaches are on the market but the big guns are gone for a while.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Aye, he doesn't look comfortable there but he's already looking decent overall.
Idk though, I feel like he should only be playing behind the striker. Signing him only really makes sense if one of RVP or Roon goes imo. He's not quick enough to play the left or right of a an attacking midfield 3 behind a lone striker, like everyone's been suggesting.
This brings me to a broader point: our team has become fucking bereft of pace and it really shows.
Moyes will have to change his tactics up a bit.
I dunno why United were insistent on crossing the ball when Fulham's centre back is 6'7"
Wayne Rooney (5'9") is hardly going to out jump him.
5'9'' without including his hair.
Theres one person who could come in.....
Spending all my nights, all my money, goin' out on the town
Doin' anything just to get you off of my mind
But when the morning comes, I'm right back where I started again
And tryin' to forget you is just a waste of time
Fergie come back, any kind of fool could see
There was something in everything about you
Fergie come back, you can blame it all on Moyeeeezus
I was wrong and I just can't live without you
All day long, wearing a mask of false bravado
Tryin' to keep up a smile that hides the tears
But as the sun goes down, I get that empty feeling again
How I wish to God that you were here
Fergie come back, any kind of fool could see
There was something in everything about you
Fergie come back, you can blame it all on Moyeeeezus
I was wrong and I just can't live without you
Now that I put it all together
Give me the chance to make you see
Have you used up all the love in your heart?
Nothing left for me, is there nothing left for me?
Fergie come back, any kind of fool could see
There was something in everything about you
Fergie come back, you can blame it all on Moyeeeezus
(Listen, Fergie)
I was wrong and I just can't live without you
I was wrong and I just can't live
Fergie come back, any kind of fool could see
There was something in everything about you
Fergie come back, you can blame it all on Moyeeeezus
I was wrong and I just can't live without you
Spending all my nights, all my money, goin' out on the town
Doin' anything just to get you off of my mind
But when the morning comes, I'm right back where I started again
And tryin' to forget you is just a waste of time
Fergie come back, any kind of fool could see
There was something in everything about you
Fergie come back, you can blame it all on Moyeeeezus
I was wrong and I just can't live without you
All day long, wearing a mask of false bravado
Tryin' to keep up a smile that hides the tears
But as the sun goes down, I get that empty feeling again
How I wish to God that you were here
Fergie come back, any kind of fool could see
There was something in everything about you
Fergie come back, you can blame it all on Moyeeeezus
I was wrong and I just can't live without you
Now that I put it all together
Give me the chance to make you see
Have you used up all the love in your heart?
Nothing left for me, is there nothing left for me?
Fergie come back, any kind of fool could see
There was something in everything about you
Fergie come back, you can blame it all on Moyeeeezus
(Listen, Fergie)
I was wrong and I just can't live without you
I was wrong and I just can't live
Fergie come back, any kind of fool could see
There was something in everything about you
Fergie come back, you can blame it all on Moyeeeezus
I was wrong and I just can't live without you
Clearly Moyes hasnt noticed, yesterday every ball was given to either Rafa or Young, this was clearly the tactic, it was so transparent and so bad that Fulham let them have the ball so they could fuck it up.
I'm curious to know where Moyes will end up after Utd (I know, I know, this is premature). Out of the top nine teams in the league, Tottenham and Southampton are the ones who might be changing managers in the summer. There's no way Tottenham will go for him, but I suppose he could be attractive for Southampton in terms of stabilising a team in the top half and he did bring through young players at Everton (for 3Sixty's welfare, I'll say there's no chance of that one either though). From tenth and below you basically have teams fighting against relegation and that would be quite the step down from the Theatre of Dreams.
In the past, he did speak about his admiration for the Bundesliga and, if I remember right, he has made the odd cameo on Revista de La Liga and spoke about managing abroad on there as well. It might be good for him to do a Steve McLaren and get out of the limelight while rebuilding his career.
In the past, he did speak about his admiration for the Bundesliga and, if I remember right, he has made the odd cameo on Revista de La Liga and spoke about managing abroad on there as well. It might be good for him to do a Steve McLaren and get out of the limelight while rebuilding his career.
Shatner's Bassoon
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Research by a dating company has found that the perfect girlfriend would be a Manchester United fan who has a healthy obsession with the club.
I assume they mean a girl with low expectations.
I assume they mean a girl with low expectations.
The_Hitcher89
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Even though they're lower in the table, I'm more concerned about going to the St Mary's than I am about Old Trafford
Plenty of twists and turns to come, unfortunately
Really could have done with just 1 Everton goal yesterday. Still, guess that's what happens when Stephen fucking Naismith starts up front.
The World Cup is gonna be so bad for England. As always since Capello replaced McClaren, we'll go into it thinking 'maybe he'll remove te shackles, and we can let that front 5 play with some flair and invention.'
And as always, we'll spend most of the match camped in our own half, with the same predictable buildup play, long balls, focus on workrate instead of quality, rigid formation and general lack of entertainment.
Hate to say it, but when we get knocked out, it'll probably be to the improvement of the competition ala Euro 2008, which was better for us having never even qualified for it.
LabouredSubterfuge
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He's right though. He's another round peg in a square hole. If you play wide you need pace and ability to beat a man.
Just putting him there because 'fuck it he's talented innit' does not mean he fits in well there. Play him behind the striker or you'll get crap performances from him. He's basically Shinji but talented enough to seem half decent while played out of position.
He's only managed to get decent performances in any of the past 3 games when he's been shifted into the middle. Sounds familiar.
Maybe he'll take a 100k a week pay cut and come and manage Celtic when Lennon fucks off to Norwich. The fall of a mid-table career.
Mata has had great performances on the right and left for Chelsea and Valencia, it's the tactics, nothing more.
He is right but the way he talks about United's philosophy is starting to grate. There aren't that many top quality traditional wingers anymore. We need to change the way we play.
The_Hitcher89
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Moyes to Leverkusen, Hyypia to Atletico, Simeone to Man Utd
Shatner's Bassoon
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Marko Marin will be available in the summer. Let's talk.
Thought I had. Apologies.
Even though they're lower in the table, I'm more concerned about going to the St Mary's than I am about Old Trafford
Plenty of twists and turns to come, unfortunately
Really could have done with just 1 Everton goal yesterday. Still, guess that's what happens when Stephen fucking Naismith starts up front.
You're right to be more worried. Man Utd are abject at home, and the way we play is perfectly suited to dealing with them. Southampton on the other hand are the example of how to fuck our shit up be pressing us all over the pitch. I'd happily take a draw at St Mary's.
Which has to involve re-learning how to defend properly.
Can Crusher
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In a 94 min game it's an average of 0.86 crosses per minute. Moyes is a tactical genius.
The defenders United have are good enough, they know how to defend, it's not that difficult of a job when you're set up right. If Celtic can turn up to a game against Barcelona and keep them out for 90 minutes, United can stop conceding goals to Fulham.
Arsenal's back line is made up of players people laughed at a year or two ago (and did again this Saturday), protect them properly, set up right, and organise them and they'll keep clean sheets for days.
Arsenal's back line is made up of players people laughed at a year or two ago (and did again this Saturday), protect them properly, set up right, and organise them and they'll keep clean sheets for days.
Lambda Pie
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80 crosses, not Juan goal.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Ftfy
Considering the possession we had it's closer to 1 cross per minute.
The_Hitcher89
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You know what I hate, that we experienced first-hand under Hodgson?
When everything's going badly, and the players start coming out with endless soundbites about 'putting in 100%, fully commited, things we'll get better, getting to grips with the new tactics, getting to know the manager, the only way is up, luck's bound to change, slow process' and all that shite.
Just get the fuck on with it, show that stuff on the pitch instead of talking about it every bloody week before serving up the exact same putrid shite that led to you having to talk about it in the first place.
When everything's going badly, and the players start coming out with endless soundbites about 'putting in 100%, fully commited, things we'll get better, getting to grips with the new tactics, getting to know the manager, the only way is up, luck's bound to change, slow process' and all that shite.
Just get the fuck on with it, show that stuff on the pitch instead of talking about it every bloody week before serving up the exact same putrid shite that led to you having to talk about it in the first place.
pls. Schaaf and Slomka are available, it doesn't get better than that
Unless they sign Liverpool's coach, no other british coach knows how to play football from this century, as far as I know.
Better thing they could do is sign a coach from other country like Argentina, Spain, Germany, etc.
The_Hitcher89
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Unless you count Swedish titles, they'll be someone else who fits into that catgeory, who'll become available in the middle of July...
edit: Imagine if Rodgers went to Man Utd. It would be difficult to fathom, and impossible to come to terms with.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Just thinking about Moyes getting rid of all of our top class coaches just makes me so astonishingly angry.
Fucking cretin.
Fucking cretin.
Even though they're lower in the table, I'm more concerned about going to the St Mary's than I am about Old Trafford
Plenty of twists and turns to come, unfortunately
Really could have done with just 1 Everton goal yesterday. Still, guess that's what happens when Stephen fucking Naismith starts up front.
The World Cup is gonna be so bad for England. As always since Capello replaced McClaren, we'll go into it thinking 'maybe he'll remove te shackles, and we can let that front 5 play with some flair and invention.'
And as always, we'll spend most of the match camped in our own half, with the same predictable buildup play, long balls, focus on workrate instead of quality, rigid formation and general lack of entertainment.
Hate to say it, but when we get knocked out, it'll probably be to the improvement of the competition ala Euro 2008, which was better for us having never even qualified for it.
I know most posters here don't really pay attention to statistical predictions of league performance, but I would have thought at the least that the incompetence of Tottenham against Everton would dissuade Liverpool fans from fear. Tim-nice-but-dim appears quite simply to be the among the most inept manages in the league, no better even than Moyes. They are going to get smashed by us, Arsenal and Chelsea and one can easily see them slipping up against several of the lower teams.
Wes pls, change the title.
The_Hitcher89
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Adebayor is giving me the willies though
Think it might be a case where one midtable team beats them, and everyone else just copies their tactics. Could do with that happening soon though, if it is to happen.
Fucking Puncheon. Cunt.
Shanks D Zoro
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UnitedGAF if you don't mind waiting then Prandelli will be available after he wins the world cup.
ArsenalGAF also take note
The_Hitcher89
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He became really likable after the 08/09 season for some reason. Moved onto another level as a player, and nearly cut out the gamesmanship. Similar to Suarez this season, I'd argue, though Suarez has already obliterated any chance he ever had of being likable
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