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Football Thread 13/14 |OT14| Juan Flew Into The Slug's Nest

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Linius said:
I didn't game a lot lately but I did play The Wolf Among Us (both eps) in the past few days. That shit is good. Next month is the new South Park game coming our way :D
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That South Park game is my only hope. Gonna try to get it for 20 bucks from one of those GAF Key sellers.
 
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Yurt said:
try Dark Souls and/or The Witcher 2.
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Bought them on Steam, never played :/

Maybe I can enjoy games because I havent graduated yet. I bought a shitton of games with the idea "one day after graduating u can play them". since it didnt happen yet i cant enjoy them.
 
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wedward said:
I have quit entirely. Next game I play will be Half Life 3.
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Even deluded when it comes to video games. Gaben will never deliver, the last guardian will end up being released before HL3.
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Wilbur

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Dean have you downloaded true detective

Dan have you worked out foolproof ways to win me money

Emil have you shaven your pussy

David have you been sacked
 
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Arnie

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Mastadon said:
Is it behind the paywall?
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Yes, but because I love you...

Barrett said:
How Brendan Rodgers has turned Liverpool’s league fortunes around


Depending on your point of view, Liverpool may or may not be title contenders. What isn’t in doubt though is that they are one of the Barclays Premier League’s most improved teams as evidenced by them being 14 points better off this season than they were at the same stage of the previous one. Another eye-catching statistic is that they have scored more goals at this stage of the season than they have in any other in their illustrious history.

Here, Tony Barrett examines the methods that have allowed Brendan Rodgers to turn Liverpool into a team that could yet challenge for the Barclays Premier League title even if the manager himself continues to play down their chances.

Relaxing his commitment to ‘death by football’

That may seem strange after Liverpool’s recent demolition jobs on Arsenal and Everton, but when Rodgers talked of inflicting “death by football” his vision was for it to be caused by “relentless possession.” Everton and Arsenal were both on the receiving end of heavy defeats but they also had more of the ball. They were not passed into submission, they were brutally ripped apart by counter attacking football built on the pace, movement and ruthlessness of Luis Suarez, Raheem Sterling and Daniel Sturridge, an attacking trident that Rodgers believes is at least the equal of any other in the Premier League.

Three of the nine goals Liverpool have scored in their last two home fixtures have come from the ball being won and released early. Defence is being turned into attack in the blink of an eye; there is no passing for the sake of it. Rodgers has recognised the strengths of the players and has developed a strategy to make them as effective as they possibly can be. His development as a manager is mirrored by the progress that has been made by his team. Liverpool can play possession football but they are better suited to allowing opponents to have the ball, pressing them remorselessly and then blitzing them.

The change in emphasis from “death by football” to conquest by counter was reflected in the aftermath of the Merseyside derby when Rodgers evoked memories of a vintage piece of John Motson commentary about Liverpool being “at their most dangerous when they don’t have the ball.”

Rodgers said: “I remember watching Bayern Munich against Barcelona last year and it was 9-0 on aggregate over the two legs. Barcelona dominated possession as you’d expect but everyone could see over the course of the two games the team with the most dangerous possession was Bayern.

“When you look at the stats of the modern game I’m big on controlling domination of the ball, but against Everton we were able to dominate without the ball. Tactically, where we are compared to when I arrived 18months ago, it is very, very pleasing.”

Acknowledging and learning from his own mistakes

Increasingly, one of Rodgers’ greatest strengths is the ability to hold his hands up and admit that he has got it wrong. “I was too aggressive in my tactics,” he admitted after an over-ambitious approach against Aston Villa led to one of Liverpool’s poorest performances of the season and a home draw that cost them two points. Taking responsibility has improved his already solid standing within the dressing room with Liverpool’s players appreciative of their managers’ willingness to take the pressure off them and his refusal to try and shift the blame.

It isn’t just about dressing room mechanics, though. Even more significant is Rodgers’ growing knack of finding solutions to problems he has caused. The formation that let him down against Villa allowed Liverpool to be over-run in midfield with Steven Gerrard and Jordan Henderson out-numbered and out-manoeuvred. There were no shortage of critics who warned that their partnership would not work, that there was no balance or blend and that there was too much emphasis on attack and not enough on defence.

So what did Rodgers do? He added another attacker to the mix in the form of Philippe Coutinho. It was defiant and it was also a risk. Had the lightweight Brazilian got lost in the midfield maelstrom, as many had expected, and the team’s form suffered as a result the Liverpool manager would have been lambasted. The opposite has happened, though, with Coutinho’s transformation from brilliant but inconsistent wide attacker to becoming the creative heartbeat of Liverpool’s midfield is one of the great tactical innovations of this season.

The wondrous through balls that created goals for Sturridge against Arsenal and Everton have been the most eye-catching evidence of Coutinho’s metamorphosis but equally crucial to the way Rodgers sets his team up has been the 21-year-old’s ceaseless pressing of opponents. The ball player is now also a ball winner, often high up the pitch, and that alone has allowed Rodgers to restore equilibrium to his midfield but it wouldn’t have been possible without his own willingness to admit mistakes and determination to correct them.

Turning into Tony Pulis

This is in no way a criticism. It is anything but. For decades, Liverpool have ranged from being at worst useless and at best functional when it comes to making the most of set pieces. In their 1980s heyday they made so little use of them that it became a standing joke that even led to a fanzine being named Another Wasted Corner. Under Rodgers, those days have become a thing of the past and Liverpool are now the most ruthless set piece team in the Premier League.

So far this season, they have scored 23 goals from corners and free kicks (although it should be stressed that Luis Suarez’s shooting ability from dead ball situations has contributed to this remarkable figure). Prior to the Merseyside derby, Roberto Martinez had warned his players that there is no better team in the country at taking advantage of set pieces but to be forewarned was not to be forearmed in this case as Liverpool’s opening goal came when Gerrard headed home Suarez’s near post corner.

Similar happened at the weekend when Arsenal were twice struck by the same lightning bolt in the opening eight minutes of the game with Martin Skrtel taking maximum advantage of Gerrard’s expert set-piece delivery. Liverpool’s opponents are becoming increasingly aware that if they don’t beat them on the ground, they could very well beat them in the air. It’s a volatile mix and one that has given Liverpool an added attacking dimension. It isn’t rocket science either; it just comes down to work on the training ground and an increased urgency to attack the ball.

Helping Sterling reach his peak

On December 2, Raheem Sterling made his second league start of the season – it could not have gone much worse. Bereft of confidence, lacking in match practice and burdened by expectation, the then 18-year-old was hauled off after 66 minutes following a listless display as Liverpool slumped to a 4-1 defeat away to Hull City. Sterling’s performance prompted his career to be prematurely and unfairly written off in some quarters and there was even a suggestion (albeit a wholly inaccurate one) that the winger would be sent out on loan because Rodgers believed he was not ready to make a positive impact on his team.

Only two months on from that chastening experience at the KC Stadium, Sterling’s form is such that public opinion has now swung in favour of the teenager being included in England’s World Cup squad. The potential that always existed – which was recognised initially by Rafael Benitez and then developed by Kenny Dalglish – is now being unlocked by Rodgers and Sterling is suddenly seen as an indispensible part of Liverpool’s attack. Tactically flexible, surprisingly strong, direct, skilful and always willing, the Jamaican-born teenager is terrorising opposition defences on an increasingly regular basis as Arsenal discovered to their cost on Saturday.

The talent was always there. Sterling was and is a special player, one who is capable of becoming a genuine star for club and country, but there was a spell when he appeared to be losing his way. Fault for that lay at his own feet but also at his clubs’. Sterling was responsible for his own loss of focus but working under four managers at Liverpool in only three years was hardly conducive to the development of a precociously talented young player who needed direction and consistent coaching. Rodgers has given Sterling the stability that he needed and he also given him the tough love that could be the making of him.

“We are very focused on nurturing the young player,” Rodgers said in November. “Someone like Raheem had a great first six months, a mixed six months after that, which was natural, and now is coming back to showing a level. It was going to be very difficult to maintain the level that he set himself. For him now, football has to be very much at the forefront of his mind and if it is he is a talent. He showed over the first six months of last season that he has a future in the Premier League and at Liverpool.

“I always say to players and in particular to young players that at Liverpool we work on what we call the ‘core’. We get the ‘commitment’. Once we have do that we will ‘organise’ a plan for them to get into the first team. When that happens it is their ‘responsibility’ and hopefully after that we can deliver ‘excellence’ in their performance level that keeps them there. If they don’t they will fall by the wayside.”

Having been on the receiving end of that warning, Sterling has responded to it to such an extent that on Saturday Rodgers described him as “the best English winger in the league.” On current form, such praise is not misplaced.

An absence of stubbornness

Liverpool’s starting line-up against Arsenal was part accident, part design. There were players that Rodgers wants, ones that he could have done without and others that he had almost written off previously. At an earlier stage in his tenure, the Liverpool manager would have not have been averse to allowing Jordan Henderson, Martin Skrtel and Jonathan Flanagan to move on. When the idea of signing Daniel Sturridge was first raised he was unconvinced. Guilherme Siqueira of Granada was Rodgers’ favoured left back option when Liverpool signed Aly Cissokho on loan from Valencia last summer.

In the case of each individual, though, Rodgers has been prepared to back down in the face of either their own form, the advice of others at the club or just his own instinct. The effect has been the creation of a meritocracy in which players at Liverpool know that if they train and play well the chances are that they will be in the side. The manager has demonstrated that he will not cut off his nose to spite his face and also that he is willing to change his mind.

The recent emergence of Flanagan is the most obvious example with the full back now holding down a regular starting place having previously been deemed surplus to requirements earlier in the season. At that stage, Rodgers had been ready to allow Flanagan to go out on loan but a move failed to materialise. The Academy graduate buckled down in training, to such an extent that before the Goodison derby he stopped a session and told his players to give Flanagan an ovation, and he is now seen as one of the major success stories of Liverpool’s season. Credit for that goes to the player himself but it must also be shared with his manager who has created an environment in which improvement is possible as a result of his own lack of stubbornness.
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Bla pls play Witcher 2. It's a phenomenal RPG and one of the GOTG.

Then you'll be ready for Witcher 3. Comes out sometime this year.
 
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Broder Salsa

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Yeah Witcher 2 is a proper good game, really enjoyed it.

But I also feel like 99% of everything is just shit and GAF seems to love all of it. I'm pretty much Derrick at this point only without having to go into every OT I don't like. Just look at PS4 and Xbone, some of the absolute most boring games I could imagine and there's still not even anything announced for them that gets me excited. Sure I will want to play the next Uncharted sometime, but that's about it.

The games I've really liked, other than the yearly Fifa and FM that I enjoy more like comfort food, has been mostly smaller games that I have been able to finish in a few hours. I just don't have the motivation to play a game with the same game mechanics for hours and hours, especially when they are not even fun in the first place like Ass Creed.

Wilbur said:
“Speed provides the one geniunely modern pleasure.” - Aldous Huxley
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Appropriate quote right?
 
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I wish there was a way I could just pay money and watch True Detective, but since I dont have sky and live in the EU I cant, just let me pay money hbo, ill give you money :(
 
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Wilbur

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Freewheelin' said:
Yes I have, where are you now???
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On the bus home, will be home by 11?

That's a good article Arnold. Honestly, Brenda's done a superb job in so short a time. I can't wait to hear his Champions League SOUNDBITES

"The music reminds me of an orgasm I had once when Raheem gave me an ice bath"

Just found out I'm working 5 til close both CL nights next week :(
 
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Wilbur said:
Dean have you downloaded true detective

Dan have you worked out foolproof ways to win me money

Emil have you shaven your pussy

David have you been sacked
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No Nathan, sadly this is beyond my skills. I have had a little bit more luck this time. Remember the time I tried to gamble my way to a Wii U :lol
 
FootballFan

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dc89 said:
Damn this is a shame :(



Not properly, I have an understanding of the story though.



I don't really care. I love MGS. I love the Phantom Pain trailers, they are so good. I can randomly quote it I have watched it so many times.

"Diamond Dogs. Our new home"

:lol I'm so sad :(
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DC something happened to me last Thursday when I was driving home. I had a couple of miles to go - I looked up and saw a glowing orange object in the sky, to the east! It was moving very irregularly... suddenly there was intense light all around me - and when I came to, I was home. What do you think happened to me?
 
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Wilbur said:
On the bus home, will be home by 11?

That's a good article Arnold. Honestly, Brenda's done a superb job in so short a time. I can't wait to hear his Champions League SOUNDBITES

"The music reminds me of an orgasm I had once when Raheem gave me an ice bath"

Just found out I'm working 5 til close both CL nights next week :(
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Of course you're on the bus home.

Fuck, just imagine Brendan in the naughtiest Italian jacketwear under the floodlights at Anfield, the roar of YNWA, the Champions League anthem, and that black and white circular patch on Gerrard's arm.

Then the camera passes by Koke and Hendo clasped in a Predator-esque bicep-embrace.
 
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WoodenLung said:
The 360 version isn't all that terrible either.
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This. Before my PC broke I started playing it on 360 and damn for that hardware CDPR did some wizardry to get that game looking that good on it.

There is some cool stuff lined up for this year, I ain't as jaded as some of you folks but I'll admit there isn't a Halo 2 or 3/timesplitters/Age of Empires II/battlefront level game where I'll sink hours and hours and hours into.

Freewheelin' said:
I don't even have a 360!
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I'll give (sell) you mine lol. I don't use it.
 
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Wilbur

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Arnie said:
Of course you're on the bus home.

Fuck, just imagine Brendan in the naughtiest Italian jacketwear under the floodlights at Anfield, the roar of YNWA, the Champions League anthem, and that black and white circular patch on Gerrard's arm.

Then the camera passes by Koke and Hendo clasped in a Predator-esque bicep-embrace.
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And then Kolo squares the ball for Reus to score in the first minute and his face just disappears. He is just head. Nothing more. Nothing less.
 
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I go through periods of apathy with gaming. There's usually something to pull me back in for a while though. Stuff like dota2 had me going for a while. More recently Spelunky has been ace.
 
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Arnie

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Wilbur said:
And then Kolo squares the ball for Reus to score in the first minute and his face just disappears. He is just head. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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1' - GOAL! And Anfield is stunned. Dortmund take the lead in 44 seconds through a horrendous error by Kolo Toure, who's so distraught he ran straight over to Brendan Rodgers before falling onto his knees and screaming uncontrollably.

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22' GOAL! Hey ho, let's go. John Flanagan adds the icing to the most delicious 20 minutes of Champions League football in the history of the competition as Liverpool add an eleventh to their tally. It truly is blitzkrieg kop.
 
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FootballFan said:
DC something happened to me last Thursday when I was driving home. I had a couple of miles to go - I looked up and saw a glowing orange object in the sky, to the east! It was moving very irregularly... suddenly there was intense light all around me - and when I came to, I was home. What do you think happened to me?
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:lol - you are Campbell.

WoodenLung said:
It was a sign from God and you ignored it.
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Wilbur said:
That was jokes.

Can't remember what happened, just jokes you wanted a Wii U
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I probably made a loss of like £30 and then went and bought one anyway :lol
So it actually cost me more than it should have. :(
 
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Tc91

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Talking of Witcher 2, I downloaded it yesterday from GOG and installed the combat update. Pretty good improvement from what I can remember of the stock game.
 
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Wilbur

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Arnie said:
1' - GOAL! And Anfield is stunned. Dortmund take the lead in 44 seconds through a horrendous error by Kolo Toure, who's so distraught he ran straight over to Brendan Rodgers before falling onto his knees and screaming uncontrollably.

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22' GOAL! Hey ho, let's go. John Flanagan adds the icing to the most delicious 20 minutes of Champions League football in the history of the competition as Liverpool add an eleventh to their tally. It truly is blitzkrieg kop.
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I'm laughing really hard

on public transport
 
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