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Football Thread 13/14 |OT19| It's a good sign when its boring
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Yeah I can't believe they released that thing without any software at all or planning to release any.
Crazy.
Shatner's Bassoon
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My launch PS3 came with Motorstorm, Genji and a Click on blu-ray.
Yurt,
do you remember the PS2 generation? The first game that had some serious appeal was Gran Turismo 3 more than 1 year after the initial Japan launch and for some people like there was the MGS2 demo but it was still after the E3 2001 when GTA3, MGS2 and FFX were released until 2002. Even last gen with the 360, there was basically only Oblivion and for some maybe Condemned, but it really got steam with Gears a year after launch. I guess E3 will be pretty good this year.
do you remember the PS2 generation? The first game that had some serious appeal was Gran Turismo 3 more than 1 year after the initial Japan launch and for some people like there was the MGS2 demo but it was still after the E3 2001 when GTA3, MGS2 and FFX were released until 2002. Even last gen with the 360, there was basically only Oblivion and for some maybe Condemned, but it really got steam with Gears a year after launch. I guess E3 will be pretty good this year.
You bought one, didn't you?
The only interesting and inventive games being made at the moment are indie games, of which 99% are available on the PC for very cheap, without the need to a next gen console or even an expensive PC. The only interesting AAA games at the moment IMO) are coming from the PC side with stuff like dota and hearthstone.
The problem is, is that on the next gen consoles all we are seeing is the same games design of last gen with slightly prettier graphics.
The transition from the PS2 gen to 360/PS3 saw the extra power being used in ways to make games that they not really possible on previous gens, like Dead Rising, or to 'modernise' games.
Basically we are still waiting for this gens Gears of War/Assassin Creed to show us something new. But so far we are only seeing service-based innovations rather than something radical. Studios are just putting MMO/Phantasy Star Online style connectivity into all types of games. Not really that inventive or new.
The problem is, is that on the next gen consoles all we are seeing is the same games design of last gen with slightly prettier graphics.
The transition from the PS2 gen to 360/PS3 saw the extra power being used in ways to make games that they not really possible on previous gens, like Dead Rising, or to 'modernise' games.
Basically we are still waiting for this gens Gears of War/Assassin Creed to show us something new. But so far we are only seeing service-based innovations rather than something radical. Studios are just putting MMO/Phantasy Star Online style connectivity into all types of games. Not really that inventive or new.
LabouredSubterfuge
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In what way? The latency is way higher and it can't do 60fps.
Milchmonster
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Wii U is the best.
#TotallyNotPaidByNintendo
#TotallyNotPaidByNintendo
Shatner's Bassoon
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Apart from it's exactly the same as last launch. It was just cross-gen ports and better looking games. Let's not pretend Dead Rising was a transitional game when it came out close to a year after the 360 launched.
Diminishing returns innit.
Nope. They didn't release any software so I didn't.
Sharing a mate's PS4 and probably won't get my own till after E3 and some decent software announcements.
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Reeeeeealy want to get a 3DS though. Best games lineup bar none.
Your lack of interesting and inventive next generation experiences sounds like you have missed Super Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3, Wind Waker and New Super Mario Bros U.
Gerrard himself will probably be benched next season, we're looking at Rakitic and Pjanic to replace Gerrard.
We also seemed to be interested in Lars Bender but I'm not sure if we'll move for him now with Lucas' conversion.
Next season Gerrard will probably be part of the extended squad and act as cover when others get injured.
I don't really know where Suso fits in right now, Rodgers has quite a few big calls on youth players in the summer.
Regarding the Milner talk, yes he'll be available for cheap and yes he could do a job for us, there are just better options in the market right now.
Yes although there were cross-gen ports as well last time, just the fact they were HD was enough to get people exicited. Now going from HD to slightly more HD is not exciting, especially as we have seen PC version of games being played at 60fps 1080p or above.
Problem with Nintendo games is that they hold their price way too well..
I don't think even Hearthstone or Dota should be considered 'interesting' if you're disqualifying console releases for lack of innovation. I mean Dota is a like-for-like copy (with updated graphics) of a game that has been out for almost 10 years. Valve's support for the game, the way they host the International, make it a different proposition and the game itself is very good, but there's nothing new about it. In fact nearly all of the social functions that Valve implemented had been done before in HON. Valve just improved them and expanded on it.
Hearthstone is just another addictive Blizzard skinner box.
I agree that most of the most fun games to come out recently have been indie games. But some of that has to do with expectations. Indie games are allowed to get away with being quirky, being short, having graphical bugs or insane physics... all these things that are charming when done in a small package by a small team. Put the weight of expectation on them and a big budget and what they produce will not be too far from what AAA studios are doing.
I think that consoles need a shift back toward fun, mid-budget adventure, puzzle and RPG games, and to me this is where Sony is succeeding with the developers they've been bringing on, and MS is really failing.
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Where is all this talk of Lucas as a box-to-box midfielder coming from? Just speculation based on how he's been played when coming on as a sub recently? He was a box-to-box midfielder when Rafa signed him, then trained to play as a DM.
Tha is the same as every gen with its transistion. You have only a small installed base and typically wait for the 10 million mark to release current gen only titles and we already seen those improvements. I never played an open world game like Assassins Creed with steady framerate on PC and the PS4 version is locked 30 fps which helps the immersion so much and affects gameplay. Something that wasnt possible on PS360. It will take some time until we see innovations based on better hardware, but they will come. The new Batman game will feature driving for example, which wasnt possible before, the new Witcher breaks the size of the game world and isnt nearly a shallow as Skyrim, Dragon Age Inquisition offers so much detail variety in armor and weapons as well as map size. Those things might sound like bigger and better, but I dont need quadruple A games to blow me away. I want more level of detail to help the immersion, like realistic animation, clothes, physics, hair, lighting.
Pretty sure Gerrard will still be a starter next season. He's still got it!
It would be interesting to see an Allen-Suso-Coutinho midfield next season in the cups, if Brendan wanted to be adventurous/crazy.
Transistor is next month
Shatner's Bassoon
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Just give me a new Red Dead game, that's all I ask.
The_Hitcher89
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I'm concerned about the length of Transistor. It looks great, but if it's like 2 hours long, fuck that.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Just sack it in and become a Moyes Boy, Toni.
We'll pay you lots and you won't even have to play that well because Moyes expects less for his money.
whats a transistor
So the eraliest he would leave is 2015, that should give at least a year to get a decent replacement. Fabregas, Koke, Gündogan (if he gets well again), Pogba, Marchisio...
Freewheelin'
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Hnnnnnng this pls, one of my favourite games of last gen.
brokenbeans
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That would be nice, set before Redemption.
I forgot about that. I miss the times when Arsenal had him and RVP.
RDR Definitive Edition in late 2014.
Vivalaraza
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The previous page had one post about football on it.
Football is dead.
Football is dead.
Its dead since Chelsea won the CL in 2012.
Red Dead is fucking ace Carbo, get on that. When you
is absolute gold.
Speaking of new games, Transitor looks mint as does (inb4 Hixx) Child of Light looks gorgeous
Fallout 4, Deus Next, Mass Effect (worried about it), Witcher 3, Red Dead Redvengance
Let's gooooooooo
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Speaking of new games, Transitor looks mint as does (inb4 Hixx) Child of Light looks gorgeous
Fallout 4, Deus Next, Mass Effect (worried about it), Witcher 3, Red Dead Redvengance
Let's gooooooooo
Shatner's Bassoon
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Fuck football. Just a bunch of guys kicking a ball around. Sometimes a goal happens for your team, sometimes against.
Okay let's hear it:
Should Man Utd fire Moyes? Should Valencia be played or should Nani get a second chance? Should Woodward be cast for the next South Park woodland critter Christmas?
LabouredSubterfuge
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Hmmm, might be time to give Bastion a go.
The upcoming E3 better be all about Deus Next.
Deus Ex and Mass Effect pls. Human Revolution was superb and despite Mass Effect 3's shit ending, it was still a fucking brilliant game (ME2 is still the best though). The idea of a new generation Mass Effect makes my elbows sweat.
Shatner's Bassoon
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Birmingham City.
Always thought the ending of Mass Effect 3 took away attention from it being a shit game.
Shatner's Bassoon
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Going back a few years and reading an old football thread here.
On the subject of Kenwyne Jones..
"He's a great player. Wish Liverpool had signed him"
On the subject of Kenwyne Jones..
"He's a great player. Wish Liverpool had signed him"
I tried RDR last year! Everything about it was great, but I just wasn't in the mood for ANOTHER sandbox game.
Can we please kill sandbox games? It's just a gimmick and most of the time I'm doing fetch quests or delivering someone from A to B.
Mini-sandboxes like Deus Ex are fine though.
James Milner and Kenwyne Jones would make Liverpool a force to be reckoned with in the Champions League.
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