Vivalaraza
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Looks like it's really turning bitter for Ole at Molde. Think Villa will get their man.
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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT10| Silverware, promotion, survival, relegation and tears
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If you guys are smart you will pick up Guzan on a free.
Hope so. We could ruin it for all parties if we dont offer it to him now.
Metalmurphy
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And now we're stuck with a giant that can't finish and a small one that is just too inexperienced...
AHHHHHH!
We're not. Having said that, it's ridiculous how many great American keepers there are.
So engrossed with the Spurs rivalry that they'd rather Chelsea be the first London team to win the European Cup/Champions League.
*smh*
He is absolutely superb. We are fools to let him go. Love the guy.
DOBERMAN INC
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I agree but I'd also like to have a great backup too.
Phantast2k
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Yup.
With strikers like Drogba, Ibra and Lewandowski (getting there) you don't really have to serve them their opportunities on a platter and don't have to service them all that much, you can basically shoot the ball in their general direction and they'll keep possession and forward it to a player in a better position or create a chance on their own. Gomez will never ever be able to do that, his technical ability is that limited.
People should divorce themselves from the notion that he is anywhere of being a great striker.
And you're right about Robbery. None of them is a team player at heart (Ribery totally left Contento in the cold today and often ran full steam into 2-3 Chelsea players).
Maybe it's due to the fact that they're too far apart and lack a strong fast-paced dribbler, passer in the midst (a real 10er, neither Müller nor Kroos) and since they can't really operate with Gomez in that fashion either, they're just isolated.
It doesn't help either that they never change positions/wings and don't seem to have any "rehearsed" attacking patterns.
Also your wingbacks don't do as much offensively anymore. Alaba is getting there, but Lahm is too angsty these days (when Lahm did try something vs. us in the cup final he instantly created a chance). The winning goal in Madrid was initiated by Lahm too.
It's probably due to the fact that he has to play babysitter for Robben. I bet he'd do way more with Müller on the right wing.
That too, Schweine was (un)surprisingly spineless & quite (not just because of the early yellow). He's just no leader material.
He seems out of place in modern football. He'd be ok in 95-2005 as German "Zidane" (fairly slow, CM playmaker). He should really be schooled to become Schweinsteiger's apprentice on the 6 (and not play besides him) or forever be a lackluster 10er. His passes can be good at times, but he's just soo damn slow (mentally and physically) and obviously not a great dribbler or finisher.
Vivalaraza
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Can this night get any better for Chelsea fans?
Maybe.
The Telegraph - Chelsea move one step closer to signing Eden Hazard
Maybe.
The Telegraph - Chelsea move one step closer to signing Eden Hazard
We had our chance. We've had a chance for the past seven years. And, of course, Wayne fucking Bridge. That time too. Wenger disbanded the Invincibles before they had a chance to win the European cup... Chelsea haven't disbanded this spine, and it pains me to say this, but they have earned it. :'(
edit: Attacking trio of Hazard-Mata-Marin, with maybe a new striker up front (or, who knows, a rejuvenated Torres)? That'd be one hell of a lineup.
Great keepers don't want to be backups though. That's the problem.
Freewheelin'
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Wouldn't mind Gordon tbf
agreed. we played our best games when robben was injured and müller played with lahm on the right side.
I don't really see Robben recovering from this. He even said not so long ago that when he was injured this last time he was about to retire. I think he's going to lose the starting spot RW against Shaqiri next season.
I think he is very much like Xavi. We played very well using him as CM and Gustavo as DM, but when Schweini came back he was again pushed to AM (or even as CM alongside Schweini like today). His vision and passing are world class.
I think he is very much like Xavi. We played very well using him as CM and Gustavo as DM, but when Schweini came back he was again pushed to AM (or even as CM alongside Schweini like today). His vision and passing are world class.
Hmm... Still having a hard time believing he'll sign for Chelsea. The CL Cup is nice, but a 6th place finish also says something. Plus, seems like he's intent on going to Manchester.
Major_Lazer
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Sell Diaby, Walcott, RVP, TV, Santos, Fabianski? Have people gone insane? There's no way we bring in 10 new players if we sell all the ones people have mentioned.
Wrong. I was hoping for a Bayern victory...
Hazard is supposed to be doing his big reveal in a few hours after Lille's game.
They can come back stronger but you shouldnt forget that Lahm, Kroos, Contento, Schweinsteiger, Müller, Badstuber and Alaba all came from Bayern's youth. Add fellow Germans Neuer, Boateng and Gomez and you have the most homegrown / hometown team you could possibly imagine. Ribery is a legend and Robben will forever be loved for what he did in 2010. This wasnt a squad of mercenaries like City, this was our team, our FC Bayern, our family and this team had the opportunity to win the most prestigious cup at their homeground.
Could Bayern get stronger? Sure. Would a strenghtened squad be able to win the Champions League next year? Sure, but everyone would just say "typical Bayern bullshit, they lost and couldnt take it => bought the competitions best players and therefore bought the title".
Hasphat'sAnts
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He played fine at AM when Robben was out, mostly because he would drop back and let Schweinsteiger make his runs. Or he and Schweini would over load the middle of the pitch as soon as the ball went wide.
It all comes back to Schweinsteiger being complete shit after he got back from injury.
There was one guy who said that and yes it is crazy apart from Fab and Theo.
Gattuso'ed!!!
Very unlikely, he said himself he's going to Manchester, and most likely City.
Is he even that good? I hear his name thrown about but never actually hear about him setting Ligue 1 on fire or anything.
wouldn't bother me. not in the slightest.
DOBERMAN INC
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Sell list(least damaging to our strength as a team)
Fabianski
Squillaci
Park
Chamakh
Vela
Arshavin
Mannone
Bendtner
Denilson
Lansbury
The Incarnation
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Even Villa and Forest have won the damn thing.
Being the 1st London club to win it means nothing.
What can we possibly achieve from selling Fabianski? He's as good a back up goal keeper that we're ever going to get. Great keepers don't like the back up role, especially to a very young keeper like Szczesny. It would be a waste of time, imo. We've got more important things to worry about in the transfer market than a back up goal keeper.
RVP is said to be asking for parity with the likes of Messi and Ronaldo (somewhere around 270,000), so I just think Hazard is adjusting for inflation!
Grover Cleveland
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Hmmm...
Unlikely, but I'd rather see him in London than in Manchester.
Unless he changed his mind and chose United
When Kroos plays as CAM we actually play a 4-3-3 like when we faced Real Madrid, and it works well when we have to defend.
But when we have to attack, like today (4-2-3-1), he just doesn't work, because he can't change positions with the winger or make a run, etc like a true CAM. Mueller does it, but he's a second striker.
He got Ligue 1 player of the season 2 years in a row iirc.
looks a good player, but would take Barca's Sanchez personally. still disappointed we never went for him.
He probably would be. But he's an asshole. Too much attention too soon.
We wouldn't need 10 new players. We need... a CM (defensive minded, in the Arteta/Song mold... M'Vila would be perfect), a striker (Dzeko/RVP swap please
), a solid center half, and a back up full back (Gibbs/Sagna are both injury prone and we don't have a back up right back). I'd imagine the bill being anywhere from 20-40 million pounds, depending on whether or not RVP goes. Diaby doesn't play anyways, we've got more then enough young wingers (Ox, Miyachi, Gervinho, Podolski can play on the wing too).Keep TV, he's unreliable but far better than any cheap center halves we'll get for the price of selling him. As for the other ones, they're either already leaving, have one year left, are injury prone, or are simply shit. Yes, that includes RVP (but, let's face it, whether or not he leaves isn't up to whether or not we want him anyways).
Again, I only included Fabianski because I thought he wanted to leave! I think he's a decent back-up and a hell of a lot better than Almunia lol. For once, Arsenal actually has a the keeper situation under control. Shame about the rest of the team...
I know what you mean but how often does Bayern shoot the ball in the general direction of the striker? Not very often, i get it that we could really use a striker that can do these type of things against teams like Dortmund. But i dont think it would've helped much today as Chelsea had at least like 6 guys in the box and Bayern played their handball-style football. If anything they need a guy like Messi or Aguero who operates from midfield most of the time and can beat a guy 1on1, to bad that those two arent growing on trees.
But that is what happens when you try to play like a Barcelona-lite without a Messi.DOBERMAN INC
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He's too sloppy, he's has had enough chances already, I think if he had a big run of games he would come good but I don't think he'll get it now.
We need an older goalie who doesn't expect to play much but knows the game and makes the right calls 99% of the time.
Ridiculous goal
Vivalaraza
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Think we did. He only wanted Barca.
Phantast2k
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If Bayern had a strong-willed manager, someone with a great reputation whom those divas would listen to & obey (e.g. Pep or Mou), he could try to mold your players into better positions.
Assuming such a manager also would have to keep the current Bayern player (& play them for them not to get distressed), he'd probably try to put Robben on the left wing (he's left-footed after all). Ribery on the 10 and keep Müller on the team as right winger.
Robben(Mr. X) - Ribery (Mr. X/Kroos) - Müller (Shaqira)
This would probably work really great. Robben would have to lose his selfishness and stop doing his dumb trick (try to get towards the middle, near the box and shoot at the goal) and play more crosses. Ribery could easily fulfill the 10er role while Müller would do his Müller stuff.
What about counterattacks? You do play counterattacks too, you know? It's just that they never end up in goals.
How often does Milan do it? It's still better to have a striker capable of the things I described and having some tech. ability never hurts either.
There are more than enough (non-50m) strikers with better tech & dribblings than Gomez'.
Assuming such a manager also would have to keep the current Bayern player (& play them for them not to get distressed), he'd probably try to put Robben on the left wing (he's left-footed after all). Ribery on the 10 and keep Müller on the team as right winger.
Robben(Mr. X) - Ribery (Mr. X/Kroos) - Müller (Shaqira)
This would probably work really great. Robben would have to lose his selfishness and stop doing his dumb trick (try to get towards the middle, near the box and shoot at the goal) and play more crosses. Ribery could easily fulfill the 10er role while Müller would do his Müller stuff.
I know what you mean but how often does Bayern shoot the ball in the general direction of the striker? Not very often, i get it that we could really use a striker that can do these type of things against teams like Dortmund. But i dont think it would've helped much today as Chelsea had at least like 6 guys in the box and Bayern played their handball-style football. If anything they need a guy like Messi or Aguero who operates from midfield most of the time and can beat a guy 1on1, to bad that those two arent growing on trees.
What about counterattacks? You do play counterattacks too, you know? It's just that they never end up in goals.
How often does Milan do it? It's still better to have a striker capable of the things I described and having some tech. ability never hurts either.
There are more than enough (non-50m) strikers with better tech & dribblings than Gomez'.
?! He lead Lille, yes Lille, to a cup and league double just last season and scored 17 goals from midfield this season.
Yeah, I was going to come post that the Mirror were claiming Chelsea were willing to pay him £200,000 per week and were therefore in the lead now.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-look-to-hijack-manchester-united-839944
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