i completely forgot about swansea! yes, i agree with you. they're a really wonderful side.
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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT7| Avaya ever heard anything like it?
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i completely forgot about swansea! yes, i agree with you. they're a really wonderful side.
Baconsaurus Rex
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Its raining yellow and red cards at PSV
yeah pretty much, plenty of games we miss too many chances and then lose pts in the end of the game, we are still improving.
Apart from the fact we didn't play against a technically superior team until the final.
The Friendly Monster
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Can't give enough credit to Bilbao, they're superb.
Can we stop talking about which league has better teams now? It's a really boring meaningless conversation with a really obvious answer.
Can we stop talking about which league has better teams now? It's a really boring meaningless conversation with a really obvious answer.
You really should; been watching them all season. Give them a season or two with the same coach and players and they should be consistently top 4.
I don't begrudge them the victory at all. They're the most impressive team I've watched in ages. We got played off the park for two matches. I don't really have much to say, I'm just gonna take all the shit you guys say and know its mostly deserved. Need to take stock and look at our approach next season. I sincerely hope Bilbao win it, I'm very proud of them.
The Friendly Monster
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This was absolutely not the most painful night in this season's European competitions for us. Awful commentating.
That could be it, but the other teams technical ability on the ball shouldn't stop United from creating when they have possesion, can they just not handle being pressed? And if that's the case, why don't the other 19 Premier League teams give that a try?
Defense was a lot more solid last season too, Vidic is a big miss, I guess.
Sveitadurgur
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Hah, Hannover score their 4th one at the last minute.
MaritalWheat
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Ahahaha. Well done there.
Sveitadurgur
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Teams through now are: Hannover, Athletic Bilbao, Valencia, AZ Alkmaar.
I think I already posted his excuse of "doicare about the Europa league?"
Congrats to Bilbao though. If they win this it'll be awesome.
He usually posts when United lose.
Think that match only magnified the Man Utd midfield problem. Might be good enough to be top of the premiership but it certainly isn't good enough to deal with then different styles in Europe.
I remember Ferguson wanting to close the gap on Barcelona this year but the gap has only grown. No doubt injuries have played some part but even with a full squad I doubt many teams on the continent look at that Midfield and worry.
I remember Ferguson wanting to close the gap on Barcelona this year but the gap has only grown. No doubt injuries have played some part but even with a full squad I doubt many teams on the continent look at that Midfield and worry.
Top class guys right there.
Also the Bilbao fans are applauding the Man Utd fans. the whole stadium turned in their direction and applauded and chanted United United.
Vivalaraza
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Ah that's a shame. I'm really not sure what has gone wrong for this side in Europe. Last year's side was very similar but it coped just fine in Europe. Of course we didn't come up against any top opposition (I don't actually think there were any great sides in Europe last year apart from Barca/Real) but this year we've struggled against everybody we've faced. Sides as good as/worse than those we faced comfortably last season.
It's strange and I can't put my finger on quite what's changed. Certainly missing the stability and confidence of VDS and Vidic has been a factor.
I stil don't think our team is quite as bad as many people seem to think it is but we definitely need to invest in CM. That area of our team is just too weak, when pressured it collapses and exposes other areas of the side. In modern football CM is so vital in all aspects of the game and ours isn't good enough.
Edit - As for Bilbao, wow, what a team and what a club. Props.
It's strange and I can't put my finger on quite what's changed. Certainly missing the stability and confidence of VDS and Vidic has been a factor.
I stil don't think our team is quite as bad as many people seem to think it is but we definitely need to invest in CM. That area of our team is just too weak, when pressured it collapses and exposes other areas of the side. In modern football CM is so vital in all aspects of the game and ours isn't good enough.
Edit - As for Bilbao, wow, what a team and what a club. Props.
Jeff Albertson
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I think he's injured
LabouredSubterfuge
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I think Bilbao did us better than Barca did.
Just woeful.
Seldom see us so ineffective on the wings.
Just woeful.
Seldom see us so ineffective on the wings.
Yeah. Nani and Valencia wouldn't have hurt, but we would still have been spanked.
There's no way we won't hit the market. Just no chance.
Hannover eliminated a spanish team at the start of the competition, or I'm mistaken?
maybe I'm mixing it with Leverkusen winning over Valencia.
You're right, it was Sevilla.
We tend to struggle in general when we play against teams who press, Liverpool tend to press often against united at anfield. Plus most teams in Europe have followed barcas style in pressing higher up and look to keep possession, haven't seen teams in England try to follow suit. United need to change their style, especially if they want to win the CL
LFMartins86
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Come on Sporting. I just want to see us put up a fight.
This! We have to show Manchester are no whipping boys!
Sveitadurgur
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That's right, It was Sevilla. Is it just me or have they (Sevilla) become a ghetto version of Valencia? Or is it just because I always mix those teams up?
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