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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT8| Made it to the Championship play-offs
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Meus Renaissance
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Currently 'simulation' is punishable by a yellow card but I think it should warrant a straight red if done in the box. If a defender can get the same red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity, then an attacking player should get the same treatment for trying to engineer a clear scoring opportunity.
But what about retrospectively? QPR had both a man sent off and a penalty given against them wrongly but the FA wouldn't even rescind the red card retrospectively because of this rule in regards to what the ref sees. It is a stupid rule and just as offensive as the initial dive. Let's hypothetically assume a miracle happened and they allowed retrospective punishment in those situations. What is an appropriate punishment for a player who wins a penalty by diving? Three match ban?
But what about retrospectively? QPR had both a man sent off and a penalty given against them wrongly but the FA wouldn't even rescind the red card retrospectively because of this rule in regards to what the ref sees. It is a stupid rule and just as offensive as the initial dive. Let's hypothetically assume a miracle happened and they allowed retrospective punishment in those situations. What is an appropriate punishment for a player who wins a penalty by diving? Three match ban?
I'm not sure bans will prevent someone from doing it in an important game like a semi-final or final of a tournament.
I think the solution is if a referee thinks there is a case for a penalty then he should have the option to ask for a 2nd opinion with replay technology.
Unicef.
you cannot show a red card for simulation... I have seen yellow cards given when the ref thought it was a dive when it clearly wasnt.. that would just wreck the game further.
the game stops for a pk or a goal, so I dont see how reviewing that on the booth upstairs by another official with the replays slow down things any more
I think Kompany and Skrtel are also worthy of recognition.
Unpopular opinion: I think Lescott's been better than Kompany this season
LabouredSubterfuge
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Yup, hard to make a case for anyone else tbh.
DangerousMali
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I guess the other premier league players were not found of his expert timewasting :lol
Krul, Coloccini, Cabaye and Ba (though questionable now as he hasn't scored in a while) have been the stand-out performers for Newcastle this season (Cisse came in January and Ben Arfa only really started performing from then onwards). Bit disappointed not to see even one Newcastle player mentioned but whatever.
Where's Cleverley? Political list!
Cleverley transcends lists.
What about the Spurs players? ParkérWalker LOL
DangerousMali
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who would win Newcastle player of the year?
Ba was on fire before he left for African nations cup, it might go to Cisse if he manages to secure 4th with a few more goals
tough choice for sure
Lescott has made some big plays and they're great together but he isn't at Kompany's level. I think it's pretty safe to say that Vidic is the only CB at a comparable level to Kompany in the Premier League.
I think there's been some kind of mistake with that list..............
Where's CLEVERLEY ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Meus Renaissance
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Why? And how would it ruin the game? Consider for the moment the status quo and how it would compare if we did warrant red cards for dives in the box
Oh on talent yeah, but I think Lescott's been better this season. I think on top of his game Reina's the best keeper in the league but he's been sloppy at times this season, and I'd have gone for Krul or Friedel over him
DangerousMali
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i don't understand the cleverly hype, what has he done this season? apart from getting that 1 injury?
He did that to keep the league fair.
DangerousMali
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fair enough, i'd like to nominate Wilshere
So if the player doesn't dive but the ref thought he did.. you get a red card. Uhmm.. I wonder which teams would be the most penalized... it certainly won't be the top teams.
His mere presence in the country unnerved Mancini
sazabirules
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How's that any different than a player getting a red card after the other player dived?
We'll see how they do in the next 5 games. If Cisse scores another 4 or 5 then he gets it.
Oh please NO. Arteta filled in brilliantly for Jack this season but Wlishere is the future and needs to be playing.
I only said that it will just further penalize smaller teams, while the top teams would still get all the calls.. so now you would get a wigan defender with a red card and their forward with a red card for an attempt to dive after he got clearly fouled.
DangerousMali
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would be sad, Cleverly, Oxlade and Wilshere England midfield is the future!
by the next world cup at least
Vivalaraza
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Really, who cares about the PFA awards?
The votes are taken in February when there's still almost 1/3 of the season to be played.
The votes are taken in February when there's still almost 1/3 of the season to be played.
If they're taken in February, shouldn't Demba Ba be on there?
PFA hates Newcastle confirmed.
Broder Salsa
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Get your votes in now!
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Hopefully SAF gives him a good bollocking because that sort of stuff gives the whole team a bad image.
BAYERN
it's a nice club
lol, like any manager will do anything about it. If it gets you a goal, they don't care.
shut up cock-nose
Looks like Mueller goes to the bench and Schweini will start. Not sure if the best call.
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