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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT8| Made it to the Championship play-offs
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They matter in that they shouldn't be occurring in the "world's best league." The Chelsea goal was made at 1-0 and the United dive at 0-0. Football strategy, as you know, is very reactive, and how you play rests on the comfort or lack thereof in the scoreline.
Without going into conjecture and hypothetical situations, the refereeing mistakes shouldn't be made. Obviously one would always prefer fewer mistakes rather than greater, and the human element of the sport is part of its soul, but can you even count on two hands how many huge refereeing mistakes have greatly altered the outcome of a match this year?
I'll never get the argument that "things evened out," or "the better team won." There just shouldn't be so many big mistakes, period.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Wow, SAF is a colossal troll confirmed:
I'm so sorry Villa fans.
I'm so sorry Villa fans.
Sometimes I think relegation is a bit overhyped in its terribleness though. Obviously smaller wages, not as many star players, collapses like Portsmouth or Leeds do happen. And it's fucking horrible when it does.
But take Wolves for instance, or Blackburn. Their fans have had horrible seasons, so if they went down, kept a majority of their players if they inserted clauses into their contracts, they'd probably be winning every week in a weaker league. Sometimes it takes a relegation to sort things out, like Norwich or Newcastle.
But take Wolves for instance, or Blackburn. Their fans have had horrible seasons, so if they went down, kept a majority of their players if they inserted clauses into their contracts, they'd probably be winning every week in a weaker league. Sometimes it takes a relegation to sort things out, like Norwich or Newcastle.
Makes it very difficult for those outside the respective region to watch the games
We get 1 championship game if that live a week in Aus
+58 - Manchester City have the best goal average after 34 games in Premier League history. Tie breaker.
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LOL. I don't expect anything less from Sky. RVP should cake walk it IMO. I can't think of any true stand out Wayne Rooney moments from this season. None true ROOOOONEY inducing like the over head kick last year.
I heard on the radio last night that Aguero is like 6 goals behind RVP for the season. That's really considering it's his debut season. I might put money on him for golden boot next year.
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LOL. I don't expect anything less from Sky. RVP should cake walk it IMO. I can't think of any true stand out Wayne Rooney moments from this season. None true ROOOOONEY inducing like the over head kick last year.
I heard on the radio last night that Aguero is like 6 goals behind RVP for the season. That's really considering it's his debut season. I might put money on him for golden boot next year.
Tim the Wiz
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Doubt this is true. Gaitan had a decent CL campaign, but not exactly out of this world. Suspending that disbelief: so long as Fabio is only going on loan, it could work out quite nicely; Fergie obviously wants him to come back strong enough to stake a first team place like Welbeck. As I understand it, Gaitan is naturally a central player, so he'd probably be used to float in from the wing or at the tip of a midfield trio. Park would likely be on the way out then, and the 4-3-3 would make a return in Europe.
No. It really, really isn't. It's not just the players who get turfed out when teams get relegated, hundreds of staff at the club are put at risk. One or two teams bounce straight back up but relegation in general is absolutely fucking horrible. Yeah I've seen us win a league 3 or 4 times but even just finishing top half in the Prem is on a completely different level. The difference in the quality of football is astonishing and outside the top 4 or so teams in the Championship the media pretty much pretend football doesn't exist.
Plus player turnaround in the lower leagues is mental. There's absolutely no stability in the lower leagues.
The only upside to it is lower league away days are immeasurably better than Premier League away trips.
Man Monday's are a terrible slap of reality....
Didn't get to see the United game yesterday and didn't bother to look through the thread to see reactions.
However I just saw the highlights and great stuff from Welbeck to finally kick one on the back of the net, if he wasn't that lanky he probably never woulda got it.
Valencia looked good again and glad that Nani got a goal, even if it was in extra time. It was a good finish.
WAYNE ROONEY.
Didn't get to see the United game yesterday and didn't bother to look through the thread to see reactions.
However I just saw the highlights and great stuff from Welbeck to finally kick one on the back of the net, if he wasn't that lanky he probably never woulda got it.
Valencia looked good again and glad that Nani got a goal, even if it was in extra time. It was a good finish.
WAYNE ROONEY.
Mr. Luchador
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Relegation. Pfft, ain't noffin'!
Hixx is correct though, plenty of people lose their jobs to cut costs. The football is pretty horrid too, even though I did enjoy that season (mainly because we were winning despite playing rubbish).
Hixx is correct though, plenty of people lose their jobs to cut costs. The football is pretty horrid too, even though I did enjoy that season (mainly because we were winning despite playing rubbish).
As a Portsmouth fan, after going into administration twice, being relegated from the Premier Division, losing in the FA Cup final after missing a penalty, having multiple dodgy owners trying to suck money out of the club and losing our manager to a relegation rival... going down to League One feels more like a footnote than anything, In any case, we're not down yet, the great escape is still on!
I guess so. I didn't think off the staff cutoffs... I just somewhat think for Blackburn it would be easier to get relegated and clean house.
Mr. Luchador
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The fans are better in the Championship, at least based on the season we had down there.
Incredible.
Wasn't there ideas of having football broadcast this way live in stadiums around the world?
Freewheelin'
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Dat dream pairing
Am pretty confident for tonight's game against Wigan, just hope we show them respect because they have been playing well recently. VP better get a few!
Am pretty confident for tonight's game against Wigan, just hope we show them respect because they have been playing well recently. VP better get a few!
yes there was indeed during the Qatar world cup
Was to do with a bid for a World Cup from Japan, I think.
mocolostrocolos
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It's the most important week of the season for us.
First, we'll crush Bayern on their own home and the we'll travel to Barcelona to finish the struggle for La Liga.
First, we'll crush Bayern on their own home and the we'll travel to Barcelona to finish the struggle for La Liga.
FootballFan
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Those Chelsea fans shouting..wow. DrogbaDisgrace.gif. Seriously what a disgrace.
I hope we beat em in stamford bridge(sorry Fady)
woah. Amazing.
Gonna be a fun few weeks for one of
mocolostrocolos
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I feel that we'll win by a goal or two in Allianz.
I'm more worried about Barcelona.
I'm more worried about Barcelona.
Not going to happen bro
This is my anthem for all the big juicy games this week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2fLQE4FC54
ps: Natalie Sawyer is worth watching the same news headlines over and over for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2fLQE4FC54
ps: Natalie Sawyer is worth watching the same news headlines over and over for.
Vivalaraza
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LOL.
Why on earth are we signing Gaitan? I really want it to be a made up story but it just can't be, there has been way too much talk about it for there be nothing to it.
Concerned.
James Ducker of The Times is adamant that it will not happen, hope. Somebody who I follow on Twitter (I know...) who is usually well clued up says Fabio's agent has said Fergie has spoken to him about Benfica as one of the possible clubs he could go on loan to.
Gaitan looks a good player, alot of people who watch him more often than I do think he's going to be a great player...but it's just not what we need.
LabouredSubterfuge
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I'll reserve my judgment. There's every possibility that he could turn out very good. I've been luke-warm on what I've seen so far though.
mocolostrocolos
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We only have to sit and wait.
Broder Salsa
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That's a fantastic deal for United. Getting rid of Macheda is easily worth 20m.
Jeff Albertson
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Fez is hurting my brain, I've only played a bit but how am I expected to work this stuff out? I must be thick
Broder Salsa
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Both Milan and Roma will apparently try to steal Silvestre from Palermo in the summer.
The Friendly Monster
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It's breaking my xbox. It's so technically awful.
fadetoblack
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What were the Chelsea fans shouting? I can never understand football chants.....
Real's men for tomorrow.
Goalkeepers
Casillas, Adan, Tomas Mejias
Defenders
Pepe, Sergio Ramos, Marcelo, Coentrao, Albiol, Carvalho, Arbeloa, Varane
Midfielders
Sahin, Kaka, Ozil, Granero, Khedira, Xabi Alonso, Altintop, Lass, Callejon, Di Maria
Forwards
Cristiano Ronaldo, Benzema, Higuain
Entire squad for once. Hopefully Mou doesn't play Carvalho or Altintop. They're awful.
Goalkeepers
Casillas, Adan, Tomas Mejias
Defenders
Pepe, Sergio Ramos, Marcelo, Coentrao, Albiol, Carvalho, Arbeloa, Varane
Midfielders
Sahin, Kaka, Ozil, Granero, Khedira, Xabi Alonso, Altintop, Lass, Callejon, Di Maria
Forwards
Cristiano Ronaldo, Benzema, Higuain
Entire squad for once. Hopefully Mou doesn't play Carvalho or Altintop. They're awful.
Such a ridiculously talented squad. Really looking forward to the game, it should be excellent!
Real's defence is the only thing that frightens me at the moment. If they don't perform well tomorrow we're in trouble. Even if we wouldn't win I hope we can score at least 1 away goal. Might be crucial.
I can't say I've been following Madrid closely at all this season since I don't catch many non premier/champions league games, but I'd still say that they have more talent in defence than most of the top teams. Sergio Ramos in particular is a beast.
Also from what I've seen Pepe is good at what he does, regardless of anyone's opinion on his character. Having Casillas in goal is a pretty good backup when everything goes wrong, too.
Pepe's a better defender than he's given credit for just because he's a massive twat. When he plays with his brain switched on he's great. Ramos is complacent but talented; again he just needs to focus more and not go steaming up the pitch like Vermaelen on crack
Joel Was Right
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Had a dream last night Bayern were going to win the Champions League final
...and then?
He wet the bed.
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