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Football Thread 2011/2012 | OT11 | Roll on the Euros and transfer muppetry
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Like... Martin O'Neill?
Yes, but Sunderland have never been a big team.
Milchmonster
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Totally depends on whether Hummels and Subotic stay injury-free or not. Santana played 10 full matches in the first half of the season but just 2 in the second half. But only because Subotic was seriously injured. I'd love to give him more play time but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to change a good CB pairing every few matches. Klopp doesn't think so and as it showed it's definately not wrong.
Santana wants to jump on the Brazil 2014 train, which I totally understand. It will be almost impossible with the playtime he gets at Dortmund but if the only option is Wolfsburg, well I doubt his chances are much better.
Edit: And that said, I totally don't understand why Gladbach doesn't want him. They need a CB, there's a good and damn cheap CB waiting for you to call and you don't want him? What's wrong with them?
I mean, Liverpool should get him.
Hahahaha. Ok, pet. I suggest you go put a bit of research into it before making yourself look a fool.
Of course he does. Shevchenko and Torres were crowbarred into the team upon their arrival, thanks to him.
O'Neill's win percentage as a manager is pretty impressive. 52.83%. Wenger's is 53.48% as a comparison. Ferguson is a bit higher 57.92%.
I was going to mention Shevchenko, might even be what cost them Mourinho.
I was going to mention Shevchenko, might even be what cost them Mourinho.
Broder Salsa
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Bullshit. Ancelotti wanted Torres and had wanted him for some time. Shevchenko on the other hand.... Yeah.
Meus Renaissance
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Not sure if this was mention but I'm assuming the ban was based for the elbow and not the altercation beforehand? I think the 12 game ban is harsh in itself.
I'm sorry I touched a nerve. "Since its formation in 1879, the club has won six First Division titles—in 1892, 1893, 1895, 1902, 1913, and 1936—and the FA Cup twice, in 1937 and 1973." Sunderland were massive in the 1800s, like rickets were.
Anyone who thinks that United will go on with business as usual once SAF steps aside is crazy. The day the he goes is the day the club get knocked back a peg. It's going to be a huge blow that will take a few seasons for the new regime to get under control.
You can't do things a certain way for over 25 years - winning everything under the sun in the process - and then expect someone new to just keep it going. That very rarely happens in any sport, let alone, football at the highest level.
It actually reminds me of the line in the first Godfather.....
Tom Hagan said:
I think that statement applies to SAF. Few people in charge are as big as the club they represent. And no one person should ever be bigger. However, if there's one exception to that rule, he is certainly it.
That's two more than Chelsea but one less than Villa.
Dark Machine
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The truth often is. My mum (teacher of 32 years and Core Department head for 20 of those) is retiring this year. I've been ordering her to keep active and wind herself down off the job these past 9 months. She 'works' 15-16 hours a day, gets paid for 6 of those. Most don't realise how much work teachers do at home. They only see the long holidays and scoff at them being 'lazy'. Many teachers go in during those holidays to teach extra classes for no extra pay for example, but no one hears about that.
Being a football manager is a 24 hour job that for those obsessives like Fergie or Mourinho is constantly stressful. If your body adapts to the stress is becomes addicted to the adrenalin it produces to cope with that. When the stress disappears suddenly, the body can go into withdrawal and simply give out, especially in old age.
I may hate Fergie's guts, but I respect him as a manager. I wouldn't wish that on him.
The good thing is, Fergie agrees with you, he said retirement is for the young. People who'd have something to do.
Willkiller
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:lol :lol
It has to happen sooner or later, and it would be better to happen when he's still around to help with advices or something.
Hardly a non-big team.
4 for initial incident with Tevez. 4 each for the headbutt and the kick.
In comparison to any English team that has qualified for Europe in the past 30 years, then they are. In comparison to Swindon, they are behemoths.
Meus Renaissance
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What do you mean
So why wasn't Tevez given a ban either? I thought he kicked out at Barton
Which puts us as the 6th most successful league side in the history of Englush football. More league titles than Chelsea, City, Newcastle, Leeds, Spurs.
We've won nothing for 40 years and still get crowds of 40k and no real sniff of success bar an FA Cup final in 92 - even the Mags have had Champions League football in the last 20 years. What other clubs would get that - very few, you're looking at the likes of Villa & Everton and clubs of that ilk though they've had more success in recent years than us (CL, cup wins). 40 years of relegations and at absolute best mediocrity, yet still get 40k crowds and many consider that disappointing.
But no, we're not a big club and never have been.
You muppet.
Krohn-dehli, or Kong-dehli, is a fantastic player but he'll most likely be leaving this Summer. Brøndby used to be a 3½ star team in the previous FIFA games.
They collected data yesterday in the Danish league. Hopefully they'll reveal the results soon although there were no controversial situations (penalty aside).
LFMartins86
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Polga has left Sporting.
Thank you for the 9 years of service to the club.
In other news, Ola John has signed for Benfica. No idea what was the transfer fee but his release clause was set at 45 million .
Thank you for the 9 years of service to the club.
In other news, Ola John has signed for Benfica. No idea what was the transfer fee but his release clause was set at 45 million .
Traditional winger, use pace to get past your man, whip the ball in to the box. Usuaully for someone to head in to the net. Valencia has a wicked low cross though, which could be of use.
I think United won't be playing 2 up top for a lot of games next season, so it might not be as effective.
Sky boy generation.
Then he shouldn't take the youth section if they need new ideas. He should stay on until he's ready to go because there's no one better than him at the moment. Mourinho might be a more talented coach but for United how can anyone be better than SAF?
And saying that:
This. Fully expecting us to be in the mix for top 3/4 because anything less would be disappointing, but when Fergie goes a lot of our power will probably go.
Willkiller
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Sunderland are the most successful yo-yo club there is!
Big teams= Man U, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool.
Non fans/hardcore football nuts don't give a shit about the others. My Dad and I will watch the big teams on motd, but fuck it if we don't give a shit when sunderland, bolton, wigan turn up.
I don't need titus bramblein my life.
Non fans/hardcore football nuts don't give a shit about the others. My Dad and I will watch the big teams on motd, but fuck it if we don't give a shit when sunderland, bolton, wigan turn up.
I don't need titus bramblein my life.
I don't understand this, especially from a fan of a lower league team (as of this season). I skip all punditry, but watch every bit of football from MOTD, the Football League show, Revista De La Liga, the German and Italian highlight shows...
For instance you would have missed out on Swansea 4-4 Wolves, or Wigan beasting Newcastle, or a number of good Fulham/Everton performances.
MarshMellow96
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"My club's cock is bigger than your club's cock."
Roll on the Copa and Euros.
Roll on the Copa and Euros.
Awesome! Next Gen will be well worth a watch next season.
Vivalaraza
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Fergie has said he will step away from any team related issues at the club when he steps down. It might be easier to say than do but I hope it's the case, worst possible thing for a new man will be to have Fergie on the scene.
I assume he will take up a role similar to Sir Bobby's but even that might be too close for the first couple of years.
The shock of Fergie leaving will be so difficult to over come. For United's players and fans we just have complete trust in him, whatever the situation he'll get it right and he's proven that to be the case time and time again.
Sad just thinking about it.
I assume he will take up a role similar to Sir Bobby's but even that might be too close for the first couple of years.
The shock of Fergie leaving will be so difficult to over come. For United's players and fans we just have complete trust in him, whatever the situation he'll get it right and he's proven that to be the case time and time again.
Sad just thinking about it.
So we are catering to the branless chickens who are about following trends and not appreciating what the sport is all about?
Lets see, Justig Beiber is a real artrist as opposed to Röyksopp. Oh, and Deadmou5e (or however shit you spell it) is bigger than LCD sounsystem?
Honestly guys, you guys should listen to Football Ramble, it may toughen you up a bit...
Ah, that makes sense. Never mind me then!
We joined too.
Absolutely. The new batch of teams really adds a lot to the quality of the tournament.
Anderlecht, Olympiacos, Chelsea FC, Paris St. Germain, Arsenal FC, Athletic Club and CSKA Moscow
Is that official?
Vivalaraza
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City aren't a big club guys.
They're a MASSIVE club.
Sup Kermit?
Maybe history, the rate they have played memorable games and the amount of players a said club have produced which impacted the game?
For example, I do rate Southhampton as a big club and think Stoke aren't.
Fuck you Kermit
IIRC, yes!
It should be a combination of all of that, the thing is, before the Premier League, the winners were a lot more varied I think, people say "it goes in cycles" and that "no team will stay at the top forever", but I think the way football is now, these same teams will stay at the top, for a very, very long time, the other teams don't have the money to compete anymore and the gap is bigger than it was 30-40 years ago.
So teams like Everton, Sunderland and Aston Villa, who have quite a few league titles between them might not win one again, unless they get ridiculously rich owners. Which is kind of sad.
Looking forward to them being in the Prem next season
Congrats then. Looks like you took the 24th and final spot from Copenhagen just like FCN took the title from them yesterday.
Willkiller
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For me every club in the Premier League is a 'big' club. It's the Top tier of English football for gawds sake!
Does that mean every club in the Premier League are relevant(in terms of the top 4), exciting and good to watch? Fuck no.
It should be noted that, back in the day, homegrown talent was a big importance and the club that nurtured youngsters to represent them in the future would have had at least a mild success. These days, Clubs can buy anyone they want unless there is, as you have said, money issues. Therefore, its a bit more artificial than the old-school days.
Call me old-School, I don't care
Aye, its gonna be awesome. Loved them back in the days. Also, another talenetd young English manager. England is gonna win the world cup in 20 years or so...
Wigan was exciting in the last few games. Swansea, Norwisch, Everton
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