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Football Thread 2012/13 |OT| The Beautiful Game
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mocolostrocolos
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The Guardian, competent as ever...
And here we go.
News Frames coverage of the press coverage of the various rows and aftermaths has been very good, I thought.
Mirrorlol
Sell a player to the Viola, but a player named Viola. Perfect.
No idea who he is.
So, yeah, I caved. Watching TDKR and Spiderman tomorrow. Gonna be good.
Awesome Animals
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They're both great! I really liked Spider-Man!
Think you'll need to up that bid by £10m.
This could easily just be bollocks from the Mirror.
Sunday Times: #MUFC more than $1 billion of debt due within the 220 weeks that Glazers have no means of repaying. http://t.co/UOqzefCY
@Drasdo
Duncan Drasdo is the chairman of MUST.
Times ticking.
@Drasdo
Duncan Drasdo is the chairman of MUST.
Times ticking.
Isn't the $1b pretty much known? It just sounds more extravagant as opposed to £550m
Speaking of TDKR, I seem to remember people posting stuff like 'I'm glad I watched BB again before TDKR', like they're somehow linked. Any truth to that? I could give the BB blu-ray a spin, I suppose.
Tim the Wiz
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Agreed. Cleverley could stand to focus on his positioning without the ball, and perhaps reading the game and working harder for more interceptions. I'm sure it'll come to him with regular football. But it seems he just needed some match fitness/not being shunted onto the wing by strategic mastermind, Stuart Pearce/not playing a ridiculously talented U23 Brazil side.
I didn't know they actually had a time limit to have it repaid by.
Vivalaraza
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Exactly that.
I've read that article and it makes no new points whatsoever. It's all stuff which anybody who has taken even a passing interest knows and they've dramatised it.
Anyhow, the problem is real so there's no shaking that...but it's very very unlikely that come the repayment date the lenders send the club into oblivion. As I've said here many times before, the danger of United going bust is quite small.
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It's a loan like any other.
Regulus Tera
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I'm so happy for elsk right now. I know he lives Homduras games the same way I live Mexico's games.
Yeah definitely. TDK is more a standalone story but BB is pretty much essential if you can't remember everything from it.
Vivalaraza
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Bale on Adam
BEEF!
BEEF!
Napoli are trying to sell Gargano.
Uhm....why?
Spiderman was not shit. Improvement!
He's going mental atm.
Uhm....why?
Spiderman was not shit. Improvement!
He's going mental atm.
Awesome Animals
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If you've seen BB, and remember BB, you should be fine.
Damn gurl
Adam does strike me as a bit of a petulant knob. Makes up for his lack of pace by kicking people.
The lenders will do if the Glazers don't find a way to either refinance or pay down at least some of the debt by that date. But as they will do at least one if not both of those, the chance is as you say, very slim.
It was going to happen to us - FSG bought us out on the day we would have gone into administration - Hicks and Gillett spent weeks, if not months before that trying to refinance so they could keep hold of us (and us fans trying to convince the various institutions not to lend to them), and then thankfully FSG came in and bought us out at the last minute and we didn't have to deal with administration. The fact we were less than 24 hours from it though is a scary thought.
I don't like Adam. I think he's a bit of a JT. Why would any pro go out to intentionally hurt a fellow pro?
Corrected for you.
Chairman of MUST presenting the doomsday scenario? No surprise there. MUST are awful, constantly sending e-mails asking for donations to support their 'war against the Glazers'.
Why do they need donations lol?
Glazers borrowed millions to buy the club, so the interest rates were very high and very hard to pay back.
The Glazers bought the club for £700 million. They borrowed this money from the bank and as soon as they had control of United they transferred the debt onto the club.
Now MUFC is left with the burden of the Glazers debt.
Fuck knows but I used to get these e-mails like these every week from them when I was on their mailing list,
They were the only shareholder who wanted to buy the club, the last takeover attempt before the Glazers was BSkyB in the late '90s which was blocked by the competition commission.
I know that piece in the Sunday Times isn't adding anything new to the situation, but it's frightening to hear it framed in such a way. I said it the other night, but I really don't know how United are going to get out of this if the IPO fails, which it looks likely to. The best alternative they can hope for is to be bought, in fact that appears the only alternative from where I'm sitting, which I'll admit isn't a position of absolute knowledge.
In regards to the Guardian, it was always going to happen. It's far from a conspiracy against the club, but the media loved the Suarez scandal, and they were always going to frame it in a far more pejorative way than against a former England captain.
And lastly, on Aquilani, I think the club should be slightly ashamed of itself. Nobody in particular, but there's a lad who's admitted he wanted to play for this club, but was continually pushed out by different regimes for different reasons. There's no getting around his injuries, or his physique, but I absolutely won't accept that players like Jay Spearing or Charlie Adam are better options for a team looking to aim at those Champions League places. At the end of the day it comes down to money; Aquilani was a vestige of a day gone by, bought in the wake of a second place league finish, at a time when the club was looking rosy, at least on the pitch. We can't afford him, and it's some silver lining that our wage bill is sufficiently trimmed, and we've got a chunk of money towards buying Allen.
In regards to the Guardian, it was always going to happen. It's far from a conspiracy against the club, but the media loved the Suarez scandal, and they were always going to frame it in a far more pejorative way than against a former England captain.
And lastly, on Aquilani, I think the club should be slightly ashamed of itself. Nobody in particular, but there's a lad who's admitted he wanted to play for this club, but was continually pushed out by different regimes for different reasons. There's no getting around his injuries, or his physique, but I absolutely won't accept that players like Jay Spearing or Charlie Adam are better options for a team looking to aim at those Champions League places. At the end of the day it comes down to money; Aquilani was a vestige of a day gone by, bought in the wake of a second place league finish, at a time when the club was looking rosy, at least on the pitch. We can't afford him, and it's some silver lining that our wage bill is sufficiently trimmed, and we've got a chunk of money towards buying Allen.
That's exactly what H & G did, and they pushed us to within 24 hours of administration. At this point United fans need to take action, seriously, the time for passivity is over, and just buying a scarf won't do.
Awesome Animals
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Where are you at? I'm playing through it right now too! I just beat the
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