Willkiller
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At least we've been actively trying to secure deals. Some good ambition your club is showing.
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At least we've been actively trying to secure deals. Some good ambition your club is showing.
Arsenal hasn't had a bad summer so far excluding the continuing Van Persie saga.
I don't want to believe it because I don't want him to stay anymore. I would rather him sold and we get the money for him.
I agree. Aside from RVP being an ass we're going quite nicely this summer I feel.
Cazorla is pretty much done and we've already brought in Giroud and Podolski so I feel we are in a pretty decent position offensively. Defensively we still need improvements though, especially in fullbacks.
They're pretty much in the same situation with Fletcher that we are with Debuchy!
Not for us. We're not exactly drowning in oil money.
mocolostrocolos
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Turns out money can't buy class, or even financial security
Money can buy anything, even a Premier trophy.
The problem is when money ceases to come in, and now Málaga is fucked up due to debts.
I would bet money on him knowing Arsenal's transfer plans this summer during contract negotiations.
We have multiple bids in for multiple players. Just cos we don't like to do our deals in public doesn't mean we aren't doing any, soft lad.
You must be new to foo... Oh, right, you said so yourself. There are disincentives and punishments for faking, btw. They're called yellow and red cards. It's not perfect, but as far as I'm concerned it's just another thing that makes football the best sport in the known universe.
Willkiller
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:lol Grow up.
I'd agree. He said he had a meeting to discuss where the Club was gonna go from here, and the reason he's not signing is they had different plans for the future. There's no way he didn't know
Hope I'm wrong since I'd love for RVP to stay.
Of course he will know but I'm concerned because since his outburst we've heard nothing from him, Wenger gets angry at the mention of the topic now and we still don't know whether he's staying or going. Really frustrating but can't go on too much longer as team photos will tell the story regardless for RVP and I pray that T V has the captaincy by that time.
Yeah but it doesn't make sense that RVP would leave for lack of ambition given the quality of players we are targeting/brought in. That's what doesn't make sense as Cazorla, Giroud and Podolski all have performance to back them so if RVP knew this, which I assume he did, then how can he justify his lack of ambition comments? In the past yes but Wenger is clearly acting with more purpose and aggression in this transfer season than in recent memory.
Calm down. I hope you haven't just read urban dictionary for what that means...
dem aspirations
Willkiller
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I think it's done now. Lille seem to just be taking the stance that they're not selling him now.
Real shame, I hope that it doesn't affect Cabaye either..
Villa fans having a great Summer!
Loan move likely for Liverpool and Spurs target
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-n...move-likely-liverpool-and-spurs-target-177850
You're like the only supporter I've seen say that. Everyone else is over it and can't wait for him to move on. The bridge hasn't officially been burnt, but it's currently in flames.
Willkiller
Banned
Nope...
if no one comes for RVP... that will truly be hilarious. I could do with RVP staying another year (that would mean the window to sell would've passed. he'll either leave on a free or sign a lower contract extension; either way, his value will have plummet by the time he hits 30 and no one's going to pay him the kind of money he wants at that age besides Anzhi), as that will stack our midfield/attack beyond all belief. Especially if Wenger does the smart thing, doesn't feed his ego, and sticks him as a support striker rather than the guy up front.
I do hope he's sold though; money could be reinvested in a quality full back and a replacement for Squillaci/Djourulol) so we have 4 solid, if unspectacular, center halves. Of course, I'm not sure if Wenger feels those are problem areas or not, but we don't have a backup right backthat alone is ridiculous. Coquelin is a DM-turned-RB (a la Flamini... and he was pretty disgruntled at having to play full back), Sanga is injury prone (hello new broken leg), Gibbs is also notorious with injuries, and finally Santos, who is merely shit. Those purchases (and I'm still holding out hope, though very very little, that M'Vila might still be on) would easily turn Arsenal into a team that could contend for all major trophies; with or without RVP.
I do hope he's sold though; money could be reinvested in a quality full back and a replacement for Squillaci/Djouru
lol) so we have 4 solid, if unspectacular, center halves. Of course, I'm not sure if Wenger feels those are problem areas or not, but we don't have a backup right backthat alone is ridiculous. Coquelin is a DM-turned-RB (a la Flamini... and he was pretty disgruntled at having to play full back), Sanga is injury prone (hello new broken leg), Gibbs is also notorious with injuries, and finally Santos, who is merely shit. Those purchases (and I'm still holding out hope, though very very little, that M'Vila might still be on) would easily turn Arsenal into a team that could contend for all major trophies; with or without RVP.I think our only hope is he pulls a HBA and hands in a transfer request.
Willkiller
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I just want to know either way haha. I fucking hate the summer transfer window, goes on for far too long, far too much bullshit.
DOBERMAN INC
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I do hope he's sold though; money could be reinvested in a quality full back and a replacement for Squillaci/Djouru
This is exactly what I hope we do with the funds.If the rumoured transfers go through and we invest in a defender or two from the RVP sale I may just start to get optimistic.
Why so touchy, then?
We're about to miss out on Debuchy man...
you don't understand...
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDD
30 minutes.
Maybe because as much as I might like Arsenal, they're still only my second team. I only really liked them because of Henry initially but then grew to like the way they play. So after checking Toon stuff, I'll keep an eye on the Gunners as well. I'd want the better players to stay
But I'm not a real supporter so it's nevee gonna be the same
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Willkiller
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Nevermind :lol
oooh did he edit, what did he say?
Liking Radiohead is contrarian? Disliking Oasis is contrarian?
Fucking lol lol lol
Gonna take his word on it. While I think he's massively mistaken in believing they're good owners in the long run, he's won me over.
Fucking lol lol lol
I feel like a dick for saying this...but I don't know if I believe him.
Why do I doubt you Fergie
Gonna take his word on it. While I think he's massively mistaken in believing they're good owners in the long run, he's won me over.
He called you a nobhead and challenged you to an arm wrestle.
The winner gets to say their favourite band is better.
Willkiller
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Milchmonster
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Contento out for some uncertain time. Bayern-GAF are you okay?
Yeah Willkiller. The fact that you could say that to another human being, never mind a football-GAF brother, sickens me.
You're truly repugnant.
Juventus President Andrea Agnelli has launched a scathing attack on the sporting justice system, as Antonio Conte refuses a plea bargain and will try to plead his innocence.
Conte was talked into accepting a plea bargain of three months and a €200,000 fine yesterday in the betting scandal, but the Disciplinary Commission judges surprisingly turned it down.
The Coach, who is involved due to his time at Siena and the testimony of just one player – Filippo Carobbio – has rejected a new plea bargain attempt and will go to full trial in order to prove his innocence.
In taking this route, Conte faces a potential 15-month ban. Juventus President Agnelli released a scathing statement that attacks the entire sporting justice system.
“We have realised the FIGC and its sporting justice system continue to operate outside of all logic for rights and fairness.
“For a long time and with great sense of responsibility, Juventus and its employees have maintained a relaxed and consistent attitude towards the institutions and respect for attitudes that straight away suggested a new attack was aimed at damaging the club.
“The results of these various charges show enormous contradictions and seem to protect exclusively those who committed sporting fraud. This is paradoxical and cannot be accepted.”
Carobbio’s testimony is considered credible in accusing Conte despite the fact another 23 Siena players who were in the team meeting also testified that the Coach never alluded to any fixed games.
The Italian sporting justice system is effectively set up so that one is guilty until proven innocent, which is why many take plea bargains to avoid much longer bans and a long trial process.
“Yesterday’s decision of the FIGC Disciplinary Commission to reject an offer of a plea bargain that had already been pondered and underwritten by the Prosecutor, is proof of the total inadequacy of the sporting justice system and the Federation within which it operates,” continued Agnelli.
“I must again point out the incapability this structure has of interpreting the needs of modern professional football at the highest level.
“The path of plea bargaining in order to limit the damage done by a contradictory sporting justice system clashes against a dictatorial system that robs clubs and their employees of any right to defence or honour.
“The respectability of individuals is put in danger and it is therefore up to them to make the final decision on which path to take, aware Juventus will support them in every court.
“It will be a complex and difficult season, but the concentration on performances on the field remains high with the objective to confirm ourselves as winners in May 2013.”
This betting scandal comes in the wake of the Calciopoli investigation and controversy over the intercepted phone calls involving other clubs like Inter that were not taken into consideration during the original 2006 trial.
Conte was talked into accepting a plea bargain of three months and a €200,000 fine yesterday in the betting scandal, but the Disciplinary Commission judges surprisingly turned it down.
The Coach, who is involved due to his time at Siena and the testimony of just one player – Filippo Carobbio – has rejected a new plea bargain attempt and will go to full trial in order to prove his innocence.
In taking this route, Conte faces a potential 15-month ban. Juventus President Agnelli released a scathing statement that attacks the entire sporting justice system.
“We have realised the FIGC and its sporting justice system continue to operate outside of all logic for rights and fairness.
“For a long time and with great sense of responsibility, Juventus and its employees have maintained a relaxed and consistent attitude towards the institutions and respect for attitudes that straight away suggested a new attack was aimed at damaging the club.
“The results of these various charges show enormous contradictions and seem to protect exclusively those who committed sporting fraud. This is paradoxical and cannot be accepted.”
Carobbio’s testimony is considered credible in accusing Conte despite the fact another 23 Siena players who were in the team meeting also testified that the Coach never alluded to any fixed games.
The Italian sporting justice system is effectively set up so that one is guilty until proven innocent, which is why many take plea bargains to avoid much longer bans and a long trial process.
“Yesterday’s decision of the FIGC Disciplinary Commission to reject an offer of a plea bargain that had already been pondered and underwritten by the Prosecutor, is proof of the total inadequacy of the sporting justice system and the Federation within which it operates,” continued Agnelli.
“I must again point out the incapability this structure has of interpreting the needs of modern professional football at the highest level.
“The path of plea bargaining in order to limit the damage done by a contradictory sporting justice system clashes against a dictatorial system that robs clubs and their employees of any right to defence or honour.
“The respectability of individuals is put in danger and it is therefore up to them to make the final decision on which path to take, aware Juventus will support them in every court.
“It will be a complex and difficult season, but the concentration on performances on the field remains high with the objective to confirm ourselves as winners in May 2013.”
This betting scandal comes in the wake of the Calciopoli investigation and controversy over the intercepted phone calls involving other clubs like Inter that were not taken into consideration during the original 2006 trial.
Willkiller
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I would have gotten away with it too if It wasn't for you meddling kids.
Oasis is shite tho, wilbur. overrated garbage and inflated egos.
so when does he go to the MLS??
He'd be good for either NYRB or Seattle Sounders (their defenders are shite).
I'll believe it when I see it in writ... oh.
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