Probably asked him to rep a fringefro as well.
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Probably asked him to rep a fringefro as well.
I get your point, but dc is partially right. Manchester Utd used to waste money like Man City and PSG are doing now.
Sounds like Rodgers want him gone more than Agger wants to leave.
Rooney and Ferdinand were wastes of money?
You can say that and it's true, but United also never used money coming from oil.
Edit: What Wilbury said. haha
In all honesty, and this is pretty unarguable, Ferguson's being massively hypocritical there as he himself was willing to splash £30 million on the kid. Even if that figure is Euros, it's still astronomical for a 19 year old Brazilian kid, and still falls directly under the criticism he himself has levelled at other clubs.
He's making himself look stupid.
Agger doesn't want to leave, end of, he loves the club. Rodgers doesn't want to lose him, and appreciates his level of support to the club. However, realistically, an offer close to £30 million (which is now the raised benchmark) is too hard to turn down. That's a fact. I personally think (and hope) we've priced City out of it.
He's making himself look stupid.
That's almost a given though, but spelling it out like that makes it sound worse than it is.
Agger doesn't want to leave, end of, he loves the club. Rodgers doesn't want to lose him, and appreciates his level of support to the club. However, realistically, an offer close to £30 million (which is now the raised benchmark) is too hard to turn down. That's a fact. I personally think (and hope) we've priced City out of it.
Yup. They used to be the big spenders, blow anyone else out of the water.
What is the actual issue with money coming from oil? Never understood why it's said in a detrimental way.
I find the fee we bid for Moura absurd. It's not Ferguson I'm defending.
I'm arguing against dc implying Fergie has lost it and United can't compete when we look likely to take their top summer target off them.
If he had said Rooney, Ferdinand and Berbatov I would have said 'Rooney and Ferdinand were wastes of money?'
Money is money doesn't matter where it's coming from as long as you get the trophy at the end is what matters.
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If RVP goes to United, can we have Berbatov on a free loan?
I think he's just pointing out the risk with insane transfers like this. It's a 19 year old Brazilian that's never played in Europe!!!
And if that 250k per week is true, then Fergie has every right to say it.
I love the Berbasex, but please just buy him off us! He'd look badass in that black and white kit!
but that's not the argument. the argument is they're spending huge money on kids; Lucas came with the Brazil tax, Rooney came with the English tax. Ferguson's being a hypocrite, but... it's pretty hard to come across a manager who isn't a one. Wenger moans about the transfer market all the time too, despite the fact that the is just as culpable for his own failures as rising prices.
edit: and there's zero chance Lucas is on 250k/week. Ronaldo and Messi aren't even on 250k/week, let alone some Brazilian wonder kid. Prob 250k/month so ~50k/week, I'd think.
He played a massive part in united winning the title in the 2010/11 season when Rooney was on a bad run.
FadetoBlack, you can have him for 5m
Hopefully West Ham.
Here's why; because you're moaning against the perception of United being absolutely aggrieved with City being big spenders when we were ourselves. Our money was generated through success on the pitch and subsequent marketing deals from that. We spent what we earned. City, Chelsea and PSG haven't.
Far better piece of business than Carroll on loan with forced buy clause. everyone wins!
I wouldn't mind Berbatov as a makeweight in the RVP transfer, tbh. He'd be a great striker to have on the bench who wouldn't moan about it either. Certainly a step up from Chamakh or Park (or Bendtner. I do hope we keep Bendtner though. He deserves a chance a hell of a lot more than Chamakh.)
Didn't Stoke try to get him before? Everton, maybe?
Not at all. He's criticising PSG for bidding an astronomical figure for an unproven 19 year old Brazilian, on the back of doing the same himself. Wages aren't the issue, it's the bid that forced Sao Paulo to accept, and PSG's astronomical figure wasn't that much larger than United's.
Ferguson is being a complete hypocrite in this situation, and someone should have a word with him.
I'd be cool with this, but I'd still rather he go to Juventus or something like that. haha
Berbatov is still an amazing striker.Hopefully Newcastle!
I doubt that and no, I don't hate United. Vivalaraza made me bet money on RVP going to City.
Honestly these young strikers in the Olympics are looking like better deals than Carroll atm. lol
He was playing a different game there.
I doubt that and no, I don't hate United. Vivalaraza made me bet money on RVP going to City.
Honestly these young strikers in the Olympics are looking like better deals than Carroll atm. lol
RVP - "In response to making Kyoufu's dreams come true, I have decided to force a move to Newcastle United Football Club. I look forward to scoring goals for this prestigious club."
:LolI doubt that and no, I don't hate United. Vivalaraza made me bet money on RVP going to City.
Viva do you normally bet?
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As much as I love United, I'd never really bet for or against them. Not the betting kind...
Seems City want Agger more than De Rossi and Van Persie then. £27 million is a nice amount of money, but I really don't want to see Agger leave.
From Hibbert's testimonial, he scored a free kick. My cousin was in that, somewhere.
I don't bet but I helped a friend from Uni win £150 on football predictions.
Don't act like clubs buying squads in one go, and then having owners come in over the manager's head and spill money after a superfluous target is even remotely comparable to how United have ever spent money.
I think it's just a case of Rodgers not wanting to say that he'll definitely stay when the decision is probably out of his hands.
That's being generous.
The good thing is that he gave that figure to the written press after the conference, along with those quotes, and he knew they'd be published. I hope he's trying to warn City away, I really do. Agger should just refuse to leave.
lol I love Arsenal for this! Nice to see Wenger fighting on. You can see he truly cares about Arsenal by doing this. Screw up your rivals even further. I love it.
I might hate United, but their spending and City's spending are completely different. United has been one of the most successful clubs the last 20 years. Where would City be now without their current owners? (Note: I don't begrudge City for their money or their league title.)
I'd be less concerned with 27m and Agger leaving and more concerned with where the funds are going. I mean, Liverpool did get 50m for Torres. Comolli is gone, but with prices like 15m being thrown around for Joe Allen, then you can never be sure... That Montpellier defender that Milan is going after looks like he could be quite good, and won't be very expensive either. Could be a decent replacement (wouldn't mind him joining Giroud at Arsenal either!) that would leave quite a bit of money to be spent elsewhere.
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