Vivalaraza
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This is the problem with Liverpool. This mentality.
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Football Thread 2012/13 |OT2| @agent_89: My sources tell me the season has started
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Four_Chamber
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Arshavin still stinks. All of these wonderful cheap transfers continue to pay off.
Sunderland will earn their point if they get it
Sunderland will earn their point if they get it
Struggling and giving up...are two different things. Liverpool players have to learn how to fight.
BlindCommunication
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It's a ridiculous tag to give to an 18 years old kid. He's got the physical potential but he's still a very rough "diamond". The move to Chelsea happened too early but Anderlecht were desperate for big money. Hopefully he'll progress more at WBA, more playtime, less pressure. He's looked decent so far today.
Liverpool's mentality didn't cause the red card or 2 penalties. Had the game remained the same as at half-time and fans been bitching about 'wonder goals always beating us' you would have a point, but you just can't do anything about poor reffing.
He's a Liverpool fan though.
bonesmccoy
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I thought 5th/6th. There's nothing in the squad that suggests they should do better than that.
Did Downing or Borini do anything at all today?
You're right. Liverpool's poor defence and anaemic offence are the problem.
edit: FULHAM! lol @ Dempsey
SunhiLegend
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Reading 1-1 Stoke
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I wouldn't laugh yet. We still have our game to play lol
I think both penalties were correct decisions by the letter of the law, but I also think both were extremely unfortunate, cruelly so. Especially the Skrtel one; there's literally nothing he could've done about it, and he didn't even make a challenge (he went to play the ball which Long nicked), yet it's a penalty.
Needs to be noted that we had a clear chance to take the lead in the first half, and squandered once again. Reaction needed against City.
Needs to be noted that we had a clear chance to take the lead in the first half, and squandered once again. Reaction needed against City.
Vivalaraza
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Liverpool should be playing a lot better.
Simple as.
It's day one it's fine it's a bad loss. But it isn't beause Lpool were unlucky or screwed by the ref. Its cos they were not good enough.
I expect Rodgers will know that. He'll need to.
Yeah, I agree. One match wouldn't worry me too much for Liverpool. I mean, it's not good! But you have to look for patterns over the course of several matches. I wouldn't be surprised at all if, in the end, they have a successful season (by internal standards, if not all the fans').
The_Hitcher89
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Brilliant. And Carragher against City. We're not going to win any of our first 5.
Suarez, Reina and Johnson played well, Suarez's finishing has somehow declined over the summer. Agger and Skrtel played stupidly.
Suarez, Reina and Johnson played well, Suarez's finishing has somehow declined over the summer. Agger and Skrtel played stupidly.
bonesmccoy
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I don't think either were penalties - Dowd had been buying everything Long sold all game. He's a bit of a shit ref.
However, Liverpool were easily the second best team today and didn't deserve anything from the match.
My only 'knee-jerk reaction' after this game: I don't think the Suarez alone experiment ever going to work. He needs another player to create space for him.
However, Liverpool were easily the second best team today and didn't deserve anything from the match.
My only 'knee-jerk reaction' after this game: I don't think the Suarez alone experiment ever going to work. He needs another player to create space for him.
Awesome Animals
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These commentators of the AVFC v WHUFC game are rough.
That's over simplifying it to an anaemic degree, but we haven't played particularly well for the most part.
Awesome Animals
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Not happy with our performance.
I just dont think one can make that argument when the team is cut down to ten men, no team is going to play to their potential when that happens.
Broder Salsa
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Don't worry, he will have a falling out with the management soon enough and leave after a year.
We didn't play really well and despite the majority of possession I don't think we were the better team.
But the ref was horribly inconsistent and that's worth mentioning on its own merit. Both penalties on Liverpool were as harsh as they come, while Fabio Borini was clobbered in the box by Olsson on the other end and no foul or penalty was given there.
But the ref was horribly inconsistent and that's worth mentioning on its own merit. Both penalties on Liverpool were as harsh as they come, while Fabio Borini was clobbered in the box by Olsson on the other end and no foul or penalty was given there.
The_Hitcher89
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Dowd was a joke with the lack of West Brom bookings, but I think both penalties and the red were correct, although I'll have to watch the Agger incident again for a clearer opinion on the 1st penaty and red card. I'd like to see a rule change though, as a penalty is a very harsh punishment for what Skrtel did. Long should have been booked for diving as well btw
this is the first time i've seen giroud play and he looks very... stiff. and sssslllooooowwww. he won't be of much use outside of the box. and if he doesn't score any goals, he'll be as useless as walcott.
he should've scored, though. that was a fantastic through pass from cazorla who was the best man on the pitch (which wasn't that hard to achieve today).
he should've scored, though. that was a fantastic through pass from cazorla who was the best man on the pitch (which wasn't that hard to achieve today).
Vivalaraza
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I agree it's too simple a way to look at it, just saying the solution isn't in the refs performance, it's with the teams.
LabouredSubterfuge
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But you laid down and died in spectacular fashion.
Other, better clubs do not react that way. In fact, the way you capitulated almost reminded me of us versus City last year. You lost your heads and lost your shape.
BlindCommunication
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Rodgers will have to sort out Carroll's situation quickly. He looks overly frustrated, might pick a stupid booking or even worse each time he plays. All the progress/confidence he gathered at the end of last season/during the Euros seems gone. Not to mention he doesn't seem to fit in Rodgers' tactics.
Borini will have to step it up because goalscoring duties will lie on his and Suarez's shoulders. Unless Cavani or Falcao joins.
Borini will have to step it up because goalscoring duties will lie on his and Suarez's shoulders. Unless Cavani or Falcao joins.
I'm already starting three Swans players though! That value......
Bubble Metropolis
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They weren't harsh, they were unfortunate. Both Liverpool players undeniably brought down a Swansea player in the box through sleepiness or clumsiness. There's no ambiguity about that. They definitely should have been given.
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