Not really sure actually. At least in terms of Rooney today who was way out of it, Ferguson has to show him that he's no longer untouchable and that he'll also have to work for his place.
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Football Thread 2012/13 |OT2| @agent_89: My sources tell me the season has started
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Not really sure actually. At least in terms of Rooney today who was way out of it, Ferguson has to show him that he's no longer untouchable and that he'll also have to work for his place.
The problem is that Ferguson likes to start them in big games which, more often than not, turns out to be a bad decision. Just look at that decisive game against City last season. He continues to see the both of them as his trusted lieutenants and this has impeded the development of some of our promising youth.
Sure, he was great. But how do you know Pogba wouldn't have been just as great? He was never given a chance to prove himself even when we were so utterly desperate for cover in central midfield in the middle of last season. As a young promising player, seeing something like that would definitely be disheartening. And then just a month or two later, we see a veteran 38yo legend come back to occupy the spot on the first team that someone like Pogba would covert. Of course, we'd be lucky to hang on to our youth talents.
It's the same with Evra. He's been so shit for so long and yet Fabio doesn't get a good run to build his confidence and experience despite showing glimpses of billiance sporadically.
You better believe it. Told you so. Galliani redeemed!
No.
He's going to City, once De Rossi makes it clear he's staying.Oh shit, I just found out that our very talented CB Koray Günter doesn't have Reza Fazeli (Sahin's agent) as agent as was rumored. He just turned 18 and somehow it's not allowed to name the agent publicly before that in Germany. That's fantastic news, he can actually become a first team player without me worrying he'll join Real a year later now
"I'm available."
Listen to this man.
1.) Kawaga is terrifying, Vidic is back and in top form.
2.) SAF should have worried about buying more defenders.
3.) RVP cant be judged on a bit appearance, clearly not up to speed yet. Really he shouldnt have been subbed on, he was essentially a wasted player.
4.) Everton narrowly won that game. If I was a ManU fan I wouldnt worry too much yet.
5.) Everton looked great, they play us on Saturday, we should start worrying now.
6.) Anderson, pies.
2 things I don't agree with. Clearly, Vidic is not in top form and actually looked a bit lightweight from his usual self which is understandable.
2nd, we don't need any more defenders. It's just our goddamn luck that our 4 main defenders is out injured.
Agreed on both points.
Ignore this madness.
These are Newcastle fans.
These are Aston Villa fans.
I leave you to judge.
I thought Vidic looked very good. The problem is he was paired with a midfielder.
I suppose there is bad luck with your injuries, but surely SAF should have done something about it? Hell even a loan or something. Starting the season that thin at the back is inviting trouble.
Really, what screwed us over was Ferdinand getting injured in training or so it was said. He just had to get injured a day or two before our opener. Evans and in some case Jones were all in line to get back.
Like I said, just our luck.
And as for Vidic, he can clearly play better than he did. Though, really in corners he was practically the lone man covering the whole effin box. Carrick is not meant to be in CB.
Honestly mate. I wouldnt be relying on Rio as a first team player. I think he is shot. And when defenders go, well, they go fast you know? He needs replacing.
Sviatoslav
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Predictions for tomorrow's champions league:
Spartak Moscow 2 v Fenerbahce 1
Borussia Monchengladbach 1 v Dynamo Kiev 1
FC Basel 2 v CFR Cluj-Napoca 0
FC Copenhagen 1 v Lille 2 (Sorry WoodenLung)
Helsingborg 0 v Celtic 2
I usually always cheer for Russian teams in Europe but for Spartak I make a special exception. Fuck Myaso.
Spartak Moscow 2 v Fenerbahce 1
Borussia Monchengladbach 1 v Dynamo Kiev 1
FC Basel 2 v CFR Cluj-Napoca 0
FC Copenhagen 1 v Lille 2 (Sorry WoodenLung)
Helsingborg 0 v Celtic 2
I usually always cheer for Russian teams in Europe but for Spartak I make a special exception. Fuck Myaso.
The ones Fergie have in line to replace him are injured. Both Evans and Jones are the ones in line to replace him, but as of now, he is still our best defender alongside Vidic. Maybe next transfer window we can try to buy Hummels off Dortmund, but I know he just signed a new contract.
Well its the status of the thing more than anything. But yeah.. maybe that one was a mistake
That would be good. Yeah your next string, when not injured are fine enough players for sure.
Lol Did not know Tom Hanks supports Villa. Well, better than Drake supporting City, United and Chelsea all at once. Haha
hehe, yeah, we are the upper crust of fandom, no riff raff. Just a shame we suck on the pitch really
Sviatoslav
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I'd love to see domestic form carry over to CL. Especially since we beat Spartak 5-0 last week. Nothing pleases me more that watching Spartak embarrass themselves. Would love to see another 10-3.
choodi
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Ignore this madness.
These are Newcastle fans.
These are Aston Villa fans.
I leave you to judge.
Real fans vs plastic fans?
Quiet you. Its unbearable enough seeing you lot thriving on the pitch, leave the rest of us small comforts
I wouldn't go that far.. I need a second team to support alongside Man Utd. Maybe I should choose Villa. lol
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19327135?
Seems like the Sinclair bid is confirmed after yesterday's rumours:
Hmm. HMMM. Not sure how he compares to AJ. Can't say I've ever seen AJ perform well for 90 minutes, ever, though, so maybe Sinclar can take over his position well enough as an impact sub.
Rumoured £5m.
Seems like the Sinclair bid is confirmed after yesterday's rumours:
Hmm. HMMM. Not sure how he compares to AJ. Can't say I've ever seen AJ perform well for 90 minutes, ever, though, so maybe Sinclar can take over his position well enough as an impact sub.
Rumoured £5m.
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Shake Appeal
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Is Sleeping Dogs basically GTA: Hong Kong? I might pick it up when it comes down in price.
It's True Crime: Hong Kong.
Pick it up now! It's soooo good and better than GTA!! Heck even better than SR3 which I thought was the epitome of how open-world games should be.
It deserves support and hopefully it gets a sequel.
choodi
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Quiet you. Its unbearable enough seeing you lot thriving on the pitch, leave the rest of us small comforts
Gotta make hay while the sun shines!
It wasn't too long ago that you lot were laughing at us when you relegated us on the final day. If I remember correctly, you guys were towards the top half of the table back then.
Still, it could be worse...you could be a ManU or Chelsea fan, then we could really talk about plastic fans.
Gotta make hay while the sun shines!
It wasn't too long ago that you lot were laughing at us when you relegated us on the final day. If I remember correctly, you guys were towards the top half of the table back then.
Still, it could be worse...you could be a ManU or Chelsea fan, then we could really talk about plastic fans.
That account more for Chelsea really after their champions league win. Soo many plastic fans wore Chelsea jerseys in my University after they won.
The ones with the most plastic fans though has to be Barcelona.. I swear I've talked to too many individuals trying to act like they've been following Barca all their lives.
They did at that. But! The problems on display yesterday though, was, to an extent, an extension of problems on display last season as well. Especially in midfield. Central midfield is not good enough to take control of a game, defense as a whole has a lot of problems handling a physical playstale and pressure high on the pitch.
Add to that an anemic offense - the part that's supposed to carry the team - and there might be more problems on the horizon.
Given, the offensive problems are most likely down to rust. Rooney looked off, van Persie just joined the team and the whole offensive nucleus needs to get used to playing together and moving to give Kagawa the right options for the decisive pass.
But last year, it took 89 points for a title. It'll probably take something close to that this season as well. 89 points is only 25 off the max available, so there's not a lot of wiggle room for fucking up too much. Think Chelsea are going to be in the thick of things this season as well, so the last thing United want is dig an early hole.
Gotta make hay while the sun shines!
It wasn't too long ago that you lot were laughing at us when you relegated us on the final day. If I remember correctly, you guys were towards the top half of the table back then.
Still, it could be worse...you could be a ManU or Chelsea fan, then we could really talk about plastic fans.
lol, true. Enjoy the good times man!
choodi
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Agreed! My girlfriend's family are just like that. Spain and Barca 4lyfe! Doesn't work when there are photos on Facebook wearing Madrid shirts!
All true. But you can rely on City to stumble for a bit of the season, just like last year. They didnt exactly have a stellar opening game either and (fingers crossed its not that bad) but they have their own injury problems to worry about. Chelsea are the wild card I agree although I wouldnt discount Arsenal. Wenger is an excellent manager and he has bought well this summer I think.
Spinning Plates
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4-3-3 ? - https://bitly.com/TKa5wV
but your spot on about RvP being a needless signing after Kagawa. RvP is like a trophy player and the money would have been better invested in a central midfielder.
Someone like Moutinho, Modric, Tiote or Sandro but these are functional players and aren't as exciting as RvP or Lucas. If Carrick picked up a long term injury they would struggle to keep pace at the top.
I can't say this is the news I wanted to read on the morning of deDay.
lol Actually got my girlfriend into United after I've talked about them for so long that she has started watching matches with me and started getting the intricacies of football.
Roland Garros
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If City will struggle, it's going to be in January or as soon as Yaya pisses off for ACON. I don't think many understand just how important he is to our style of play.
Mumei, if you're looking for a team to support, go with Tottenham or Newcastle. You avoid the 'bandwagon' tag from supporting a top 4 side but you're still a good chance of witnessing some success because both are very well run, solid clubs.
IMO just let him watch and enjoy it as a neutral. Eventually he'll find a club he gravitates towards and associates with. Telling him what team to support is a bit strange. There should be a little bit of romanticism in this decision, don't you think?
choodi
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Be careful using the words success and Newcastle too closely together!
The last time we won anything was in 1969.
No the Intertoto Cup and Championship trophies mean nothing
Roland Garros
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I guess, but it's hard to find much romanticism aside from the top 4 at the moment. In terms of coverage, brand, culture, it's hard to look beyond the top 5 or 6 and envision much success and enjoyment at an overseas fan level.
Does anyone know of any good football highlights video sites? Footytube seems to have gone legit and 101 always seems to have awful quality videos. Is there somewhere else I'm missing out on?
I've only been a fan for a few years now, but I fell in love with Liverpool when the fans started singing YNWA during half time in 2005 in Istanbul. I'll never forget the commentators
"Liverpool supporters trying to lift the team by sheer fan power alone"
Wonderful club. There's definitely romanticism in the game, still, no matter how hard Chelsea and City try to take it out.
I've only been a fan for a few years now, but I fell in love with Liverpool when the fans started singing YNWA during half time in 2005 in Istanbul. I'll never forget the commentators
"Liverpool supporters trying to lift the team by sheer fan power alone"
Wonderful club. There's definitely romanticism in the game, still, no matter how hard Chelsea and City try to take it out.
But I thought it was extremely romantic when John Terry hoisted up the Champions League Trophy.
Sometimes i feel Arsene and SAF are so similar.
Both constantly overlook the problems they have in their side.
Both like playing players out of their preferred positions.
both have to manage with a ton of injuries every year.
Yet both of them push their players to perform out of their skin and are always near the top.
And both of them something against having a proper midfield enforcer or a DM in their playing 11 even when Barca and RM who have the best squads in the world have world class DMs in their side who let others push forwards while providing cover defensively.
Both constantly overlook the problems they have in their side.
Both like playing players out of their preferred positions.
both have to manage with a ton of injuries every year.
Yet both of them push their players to perform out of their skin and are always near the top.
And both of them something against having a proper midfield enforcer or a DM in their playing 11 even when Barca and RM who have the best squads in the world have world class DMs in their side who let others push forwards while providing cover defensively.
Shake Appeal
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Tuttosport will say anything. I award this no truth stars.
It's especially mind-numbing when you consider how many players have harped on about wanting to set things right this season. SAF have beat into the heads of the players that they'll learn from what happened last season and to use that experience as fuel.
Not one thing really seemed to have registered with the players, judging from that fairly massive lack of real commitment. I've always said this: losing happens to every team. But if you lose, without giving everything and leaving the field bruised and bloodied, you fucking fail. And that should be unacceptable to any pro athlete.
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