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Football Thread 2013/14 |OT20| I don't really give a shit what any title is
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LabouredSubterfuge
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Only by way of equilibrium towards those that assume they've already won it.
Erm quite a few of them now are homegrown.
Vivalaraza
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Why would Ferguon's respect matter? He's in bed with them. The same man who told fans to "fuck off and support Chelsea if they don't like it". Him and Gill both did a complete u-turn on the Glazer's because it suited them. I have zero respect for him or his opinion when it comes to this topic.
Watch him squirm now that they're fucking him off.
It's a tired debate but people act as if the Glazer's haven't harmed the club. Just because we have won trophies, doesn't mean harm hasn't been done. We are weaker as a club. So many people have lost their jobs, the fans are totally alienated and have no influence or say - just not for example people who have had season tickets for 20 years are being moved for the "singing section". We invest less in the infrastructure of the club, in fact we hardly invest in it at all unless their is some kind of corporate upside.
People keep saying the owner could have been mental as if that was the alternative. It wasn't. We were a PLC - that had it's downsides too, no doubt. But that prevented any of that crazy shit from happening.
The fact remains they came in and bought the club with it's own money and have since whored it out and costed us £1bn - they put up a share issue and flat out LIED that the money would be used to pay off debt and invest in the club. They ran off with it. The fact anybody even for a moment gives them an ounce of credit baffles me. They haven't put a penny in. All they've done is take money out and "stay in the shadows". Oh well done Glazers, fucking brilliant job.
as it is, I have a hard time seeing which world class striker we're going to be able to get and we all know Wenger will not strengthen the defense or buy a defensive midfielder, so that's a nonstarter. so if if it's a choice between yet another technical midfielder and getting no one, may as well take the midfielder.
we'll see
lol, great gif
I'm expecting Cesc, Vela, that Toulouse fella, another centre half, maybe a defensive midfielder and someone like Remy or Bony.
That's the sort of business I am expecting. No delusions here.
pulga
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FYI: 'Homegrown' doesn't mean that player has to be as the same nationality as the league. For example, Cesc, would count as homegrown in England because he spent at least three years between the ages of 15 and 21 being trained at Arsenal. Also out of the 8 'homegrown' players, each team only needs 4 to be trained at their club. So Cesc would count as one of Man City's 8 'homegrown' players because he was trained st another team in the league (if they were to buy him).
The_Hitcher89
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Looks more like pus than piss
I suppose this is the answer to the question of what the Laboureds of this world will say once we've ended the trophy drought. They'll simply ignore it.
Vivalaraza
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I for one think it would be brilliant if Arsenal won the FA Cup.
It's been a great few years for the tournament really. Wigan and now Arsenal or Hull - magical.
Gives me hope that even if we get thrown into the abyss, we might still win a trophy.
It's been a great few years for the tournament really. Wigan and now Arsenal or Hull - magical.
Gives me hope that even if we get thrown into the abyss, we might still win a trophy.
God damn Liverpool, one of the biggest meltdowns i've ever seen, simply unbelievable.
Too bad, this was supposed to be their year, they won't get anywhere near the title any time soon. First Chelsea, and now this, this liverpool side can't handle the pressure.
I guess Brendan has some psychological work to do. These mental breakdowns are completely unacceptable .
I enjoyed it very much.
Too bad, this was supposed to be their year, they won't get anywhere near the title any time soon. First Chelsea, and now this, this liverpool side can't handle the pressure.
I guess Brendan has some psychological work to do. These mental breakdowns are completely unacceptable .
I enjoyed it very much.
LabouredSubterfuge
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You
haven't
won
it
yet.
So yes I was pre-supposing you might not win it. It's not inconceivable really is it?
brokenbeans
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So is the FFP gonna force City to buy English players?
Bye bye Shaw
Bye bye Shaw
Wait till Wes sees this egregious trolling.
Phonetically identical to dear old FF
It's supposed to be a tribute to Brazil. So yeah, I guess you're right.
United haven't won the FA Cup for so long, it would be nice just for a chance.
Do we know how van Gaal feels about domestic cup competitions?
Kind of, but it also means they probably shouldn't be spending £30m on the English players they buy.
Do we know how van Gaal feels about domestic cup competitions?
So is the FFP gonna force City to buy English players?
Bye bye Shaw
Kind of, but it also means they probably shouldn't be spending £30m on the English players they buy.
It's Hull against the Arsene amigos, so yes.
Clichy would also count for them.
But that would still leave them with 3 spots to fill with Hart, Milner, Rodwell, Clichy and Fabregas.
The restrictions leave City with room for 13 foreign players. New Gk, Zabaleta, Kompany, Nastasic, Toure, Fernandinho, Navas, Nasri, Silva, Aguero, Negredo, Kolarov, Dzeko. You can just about fit mos of their squad in, no room for other CBs, Garcia, a backup RB, or Jovetic though.
And this is all assuming they went ahead and signed Fabregas
LabouredSubterfuge
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Oh baby.
The_Hitcher89
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KidA Seven
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I don't think Cesc would count because he played in Europe and was then registered with the A squad for Europe pretty quickly after he arrived at Arsenal.
For example, United didn't include Januzaj in the A squad list for the Champions League until October (after 2 group games had taken place) because he would then lose his homegrown status. October marked 2 years since Januzaj was eligible to play for United's youth team. After October, Januzaj could then be registered with the B squad list due to being young and being with the club for 2 years.
I could be wrong, but this is what happened with Januzaj.
It's not the away shirt, it's the third kit so luckily we won't see it that often anyway. Unfortunately that's the one Milan will use in their next game this weekend
w-what have you done...
Vivalaraza
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If Arsenal lose the final then people at the club might wake up and realise they're a club going nowhere.
I hope they win for this reason.
I hope they win for this reason.
Last year, Warrior's slogan was "We come not to play." This year it was "Rise up" (kind of fitting, actually). Next year it's gotta be "THIS DOES NOT FUCKING SLIP".
Are they trying to make some point that we have a shit away defense? 15th worst out of 20 teams... Either I'm missing something or Sky is.
"We go again" is actually pretty fitting and would be cool since they're Gerrard's words.
Are they trying to make some point that we have a shit away defense? 15th worst out of 20 teams... Either I'm missing something or Sky is.
You sure you aren't a Bayern fan?
Gerrard is emotionally crushed inside and should retire. He handled being top with a few games to go completely wrong.
Liverpool were doing great when they pushed the "our aim is to finish top 4" mentality, when they accepted that they were going to win the title, was also when they lost it.
Liverpool were doing great when they pushed the "our aim is to finish top 4" mentality, when they accepted that they were going to win the title, was also when they lost it.
That's not really true. We don't have anyone left that we need to get rid of or that are too expensive to sell off. If anyone takes our players at this point, they'll do so without any help. In general, most of the team are on high wages but they're contributors. Santa Cruz, Bridge, etc. are off the books. This is the final season we pay part of Adebayor's wage as well.
I could see Sinclair being thrown a lifeline just to fill our quota but his contract is £40k a week. Every club in the PL can afford that if they're intersted.
Lescott is definitely gone unless he were willing to accept a major salary cut. I think he'll go to Besiktas and get paid. Richards would need to sign a new deal but he is young and will definitely want to play so he'll be gone regardless. He just doesn't fit in under Pellegrini's system -- he doesn't track back quick enough and was a major, major, major liability when he played.
All of our new signings this summer made less than Lescott and Barry. They're paid well, but City aren't overpaying now on wages.
It's not Gerrard's fault Glen Johnson is shit.
He's joking man. Lego is one of the good ones. THE ONLY good one. #FUCKUNITEDGAF
The_Hitcher89
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15th worst, or 5th best?
You decide, depending what narrative you're trying to push
KidA Seven
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The_Hitcher89
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LanceVance
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Tbf, we didn't implode until top 3 was secure. Difficult to aim for 4th at that point.
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