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[The_Hitcher89]

It's foolish to assume that Man Utd will finish in the top 4 this season. They'll improve a lot in the summer of course in terms of personne, but you can't look at their performances last season and assume they'll improve tenfold because of a new manager and a few star signings. The gap they have to bridge is massive, the clubs they're competing with will be trying to make that gap wider still over the summer and there's always a risk with a new manager and players

I think they probably will brute-force their way to 4th next year at either our's or Arsenal's expense, but it's by no means a sure thing

If predictions prove true, I can see there being a huge gap between 5th and 6th next May.

 

[Baconsaurus Rex]

So why exactly can't people predict Arse won't make the CL spots then?

I would tell them to flip a coin.

 

[Slizz]

I would tell them to flip a coin.

Thats cool, I was referring to Salva's post on the previous page saying people should stop predicting Arse getting knocked out of the top 4 because they've been doing it for years and thats the definition of insanity constantly doing or saying the same thing and expecting different results.


Which is simply why I asked how many Arsenal fans probably predicted a trophy win year after year after year with no trophy.

 

[Mr Cola]

While id take top4 in a heartbeat next year and nothing else im not confident of it, i think it will take one of the current top4 to underperform quite substantially like we have this season.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Daniel Taylor ‏@DTguardian 7s

Yaya Toure's agent also complaining there were no photos of him at the stadium, or training ground, until they complained.

This just keeps getting better.

 

[Yurt]

well they sure picked the right people for this

oh wait

Conte singing 'Non si vende Pogba' (Pogba doesn't get sold) with the fans, looool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re2wfKMxfrA

AHAHAHA YES CONTE!

and here's Pirlo doing unPirlo-like stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdTdMTZAKWE

 

[Pachimari]

you should submit a name change request

Haha, excuse me, we have only won it twice in like 2 decades. Not used to this yet. =p

 

[Slizz]

Next seasons gonna be crazy regardless. You can't expect any team to keep any form going in to the new season with a WC and mass transfers happening smack in the middle of the 'offseason'

 

[The_Hitcher89]

well they sure picked the right people for this

oh wait

AHAHAHA YES CONTE!

and here's Pirlo doing unPirlo-like stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdTdMTZAKWE

Gomez looks like he's tipping rohypnol into someone's drink

 

[Elchele]

Gomez is class

Ramos "I don't know what I'm doing here" tho

 

[Mr.Marston]

Tottenham will finish above Utd next season if they get a good manager.

 

[dc89]

This just keeps getting better.

This is absolute potty.

I have one in my office.

 

[Coldnoodle]

Yaya just wants to be loved

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Martyn Ziegler ‏@martynziegler 22m

Man City believe they only need 5 home-grown players not 8 for 21-man CL squad and are proceeding on that basis, according to club sources.

Wait what?

Edit: Oooohhhh I see what they've done there. A tad bit presumptuous.

 

[Disagree Guy]

Tottenham will finish above Utd next season if they get a good manager.

They did this season and they had tactics Tim..... I wouldn't worry lol

 

[ShogunDarius]

Everton did well this season be interesting to see what happens with them

 

[The_Hitcher89]

This is Brendan's revenge, slowly being put into motion

City will be liquidated by October.

 

[Yen]

Crispin Glover sure is looking good again!

 

[L1NETT]

Tottenham will finish above Utd next season if they get a good manager.

And the cycle continues

Spuritis rages

Let's pull up everyone who said they'll finish second. I mean all those quality players. Lamela, Soldado, Paulinho

Dead certs

 

[Derp1na]

United are shorter odds than Arsenal to finish in the top four on all the betting sites. All the betting sites can't be wrong.

 

[Manager]

Interview with Yaya's agent coming up "next":
http://talksport.com/radioplayer/live/

The Sky one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtLC2vfidjA

 

[Salvadora]

Thats cool, I was referring to Salva's post on the previous page saying people should stop predicting Arse getting knocked out of the top 4 because they've been doing it for years and thats the definition of insanity constantly doing or saying the same thing and expecting different results.


Which is simply why I asked how many Arsenal fans probably predicted a trophy win year after year after year with no trophy.

I'm not sure how that refutes my point.

I was specifically referring the the large number of those (in this thread) who so confidently predict Arsenal will drop out of the top 4 and are proven wrong. It's especially difficult to comprehend when United are being vaunted to take our place when, in terms of playing personal, they are in exactly the same place as they when they finished seventh. In addition to seemingly chasing very unrealistic targets. Our squad has looked better than it has for years. There is money to spend. We've improved our points total from last season and finished seven from the top. I don't think it's difficult to imagine a scenario in which Arsenal actually do better next season. Yet the predictions stay the same. Don't think it's too much of a stretch to suggest that people predict something else for a change.

 

[Sylver]

Not sure if posted but well. This is Barça's next season home jersey:

I don't like the sponsor but it's quite good.

 

[Slizz]

I'm not sure how that refutes my point.

I was specifically referring the the large number of those (in this thread) who so confidently predict Arsenal will drop out of the top 4 and are proven wrong. It's especially difficult to comprehend when United are being vaunted to take our place when, in terms of playing personal, they are in exactly the same place as they when they finished seventh. In addition to seemingly chasing very unrealistic targets. Our squad has looked better than it has for years. There is money to spend. We've improved our points total from last season and finished seven from the top. I don't think it's difficult to imagine a scenario in which Arsenal actually do better next season. Yet the predictions stay the same. Don't think it's too much of a stretch to suggest that people predict something else for a change.

I feel you, but every team for the most part improves year to year whether it be roster changes or developing youth. Arsenal and Tottenham are gonna have to manage CL and EL respectively while United don't, just like Everton this year who gave you guys a real good run for your money.

I already stated that it's kind of foolish to predict things now, I'd wait till after the WC. What if Wilshere gets hurt? What if Suarez/Sturridge gets hurt? What if Hazard does? What if Rooney gets hurt? Buncha variables etc.

It's not impossible to string together a couple of facts and predictions to say Arse won't make it out the top 4 each year based on last seasons results.... Arsenal barely scraped by last year, were everyones Arse out of the top 4 predictions so asinine then?

 

[Vivalaraza]

Or, you know, people should stop predicting it after being wrong year after year.

Definition of insanity and all that.

Perhaps they should.

I'm just saying that people view Arsenal as a weak team and club, for obvious reasons, and they will be the club, as always, that the majority of people will think are most vulnerable.

That's not going to change unless you sign amazing players, so just get used to hearing it.

 

[L1NETT]

His point is everyone always predicts Arsenal will miss out on the top 4. They are the easy ones to say they'll just fall short

And some of the people predicting they won't do it that weren't even born the last time they didn't

If a club has experience in managing CL and League football, Arsenal kinda do

 

[bud]

Interview with Yaya's agent coming up "next":
http://talksport.com/radioplayer/live/

The Sky one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtLC2vfidjA

no wonder guardiola got rid of him.

he's a massive attention whore.

 

[Slizz]

His point is everyone always predicts Arsenal will miss out on the top 4. They are the easy ones to say they'll just fall short

And some of the people predicting they won't do it that weren't even born the last time they didn't

If a club has experience in managing CL and League football, Arsenal kinda do

But you guys weren't safe till the Everton game at the end of the season this year and what the second to last game in the 2013 season?

Why can't I predict you won't make it preseason?

 

[Hixx]

Next season - depending on how good a summer Man United have and how decent a manager Spurs bring in - could be the most competitive fight for fourth in many years.

You can fairly safely presume Chelsea and City will be in the top four again, but those last two spots... I wouldn't like to predict who'll finish in them yet.

 

[Maddox]

Hang on, the toure birthday snub wasn't a joke?

 

[Manager]

The Talksport interview just now

"One of the most bizarre interviews I've ever done"

Said closer to 50/50 to leave City than 100% staying. Also not about the cake, but about attention. Should've been given a cake (!) when scoring 20 goals and something about not getting attention (from the club?) when Suarez won the award.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

The Talksport interview

"One of the most bizarre interviews I've ever done"

Said closer to 50/50 to leave City than 100% staying. Also not about the cake, but about attention. Should've been given a cake (!) when scoring 20 goals and something about not getting attention (from the club?) when Suarez won the award.

 

[Coldnoodle]

The Talksport interview

"One of the most bizarre interviews I've ever done"

Said closer to 50/50 to leave City than 100% staying. Also not about the cake, but about attention. Should've been given a cake (!) when scoring 20 goals and something about not getting attention (from the club?) when Suarez won the award.

dc are you okay?

dc post if you are okay

 

[L1NETT]

But you guys weren't safe till the Everton game at the end of the season this year and what the second to last game in the 2013 season?

Why can't I predict you won't make it preseason?

I don't support Arsenal son I just refute some odd posts pooping on them

You are allowed to predict whatever you want

But a decade and a half of evidence is pretty useful on the other side

Hang on, the toure birthday snub wasn't a joke?

Pretty mad innit lol

 

[FootballFan]

Wtf that Yaya Toure birthday thing is a joke right? Only just catching up now

 

[Diablo Rosso]

There are no guarantees in football, we know as well as anyone after the Moyes failure. The most likely team to drop out of top 4 to me would be Liverpool. I say that because we don't know how they'll handle European football along with domestic competitions, especially since they went out of both last season rather early. They don't have the biggest squad either and need to buy quite a few to make up the numbers.

 

[Blablurn]

 

[Slizz]

I don't support Arsenal son I just refute some odd posts pooping on them

You are allowed to predict whatever you want

But a decade and a half of evidence is pretty useful on the other side

Lol ok but then you are proving my initial point....

Predicting Arsenal make the CL spots = Predicting Arsenal win a trophy over the last decade.

And like I said everyone's preseason predictions for Arsenal out of the CL spots the last 2 years would have been accurate up until the last couple weeks of the season...


EDIT: Unless I'm just not seeing something

 

[Vivalaraza]

Guillem says Fabregas has a €40m buyout clause, Barca are happy to let him go, Arsenal do not have first option and United are favourites.

The march to 4th spot is gathering pace.

 

[Baki]

Perhaps they should.

I'm just saying that people view Arsenal as a weak team and club, for obvious reasons, and they will be the club, as always, that the majority of people will think are most vulnerable.

That's not going to change unless you sign amazing players, so just get used to hearing it.

And they can keep being wrong year after year.

United, Chelsea, Manchester City, Liverpool have all finished outside of the top 4 in the past 10 years. While we've remained in the top 4 for the past 18 years. But hey, let's keep spinning the narrative about Arsenal dropping out because some squads will improve. Same shit different year.

It's not like we don't enjoy proving people wrong.

Can't wait to see your shit team fuck it up again under Van Gaal.

 

[OneTwoTee]

The Talksport interview

"One of the most bizarre interviews I've ever done"

Said closer to 50/50 to leave City than 100% staying. Also not about the cake, but about attention. Should've been given a cake (!) when scoring 20 goals and something about not getting attention (from the club?) when Suarez won the award.

His feelings seem to be yo-yoing a lot



or should that be



Ya-yaing

Spoiler

I'm so sorry

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Guillem says Fabregas has a €40m buyout clause, Barca are happy to let him go, Arsenal do not have first option and United are favourites.

The march to 4th spot is gathering pace.

MEN also say Shaw is nearly done too.

It's good to support the world's football club.

 

[Slizz]

BASELESS PREDICTIONS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaRkVnysuMU

 

[Mr Cola]

Guillem says Fabregas has a €40m buyout clause, Barca are happy to let him go, Arsenal do not have first option and United are favourites.

The march to 4th spot is gathering pace.

Guillem also told us that Herrera was a done deal, that the paper work was being signed.

he is a tool

 

[Ushojax]

And the cycle continues

Spuritis rages

Let's pull up everyone who said they'll finish second. I mean all those quality players. Lamela, Soldado, Paulinho

Dead certs

MoPo is going to make Lamela a beast

you'll see

you'll all see

 

[The_Hitcher89]

We've finished outside the top 4 more often than not in the last 9 years :O

Dat 09/10 brickwall

 

[Vivalaraza]

And they can keep being wrong year after year.

United, Chelsea, Manchester City, Liverpool have all finished outside of the top 4 in the past 10 years. While we've remained in the top 4 for the past 18 years. But hey, let's keep spinning the narrative about Arsenal dropping out because some squads will improve. Same shit different year.

It's not like we don't enjoy proving people wrong.

Can't wait to see your shit team fuck it up again under Van Gaal.

I don't believe you quite understand what I am saying to you.

I am saying that people are going to predict that Arsenal are the team most likely to drop out of the top 4.

This "debate" has been had on this forum and elsewhere time and time again.

You seem to be very offended by this notion.

Save yourself the bother and just maintain quiet confidence because there is nothing you can say that will make people change their minds.

Do you understand?

 

[Yurt]

Yaya's 20 goals this season:

scored the 4th goal vs Aston Villa (4-0)
A hat trick on Fulham that includes two penalties (5-0)
Penalty in a 4-1 vs Southampton
the third goal on United in injury time.
a penalty on Spurs (5-1)
third goal in a 6-0 vs West Ham
a penalty (6th goal) vs Arsenal in the 6-3
5th goal on Norwich in a 7-0
the third goal after a red card vs Newcastle in a 4-0.
injury time goal vs Hull
2nd goal vs United a 4-1
first goal in a loss vs Villa.
Winner on Stoke
2nd goal on Crystal Palace
2nd goal on Swansea in a 3-2
A brace on West brom that includes a penalty
Equaliser on Sunderland
First goal in a 4-2 vs Fulham

as impressive as Berbatov's 20 goals

 

[Diablo Rosso]

And they can keep being wrong year after year.

United, Chelsea, Manchester City, Liverpool have all finished outside of the top 4 in the past 10 years. While we've remained in the top 4 for the past 18 years. But hey, let's keep spinning the narrative about Arsenal dropping out because some squads will improve. Same shit different year.

It's not like we don't enjoy proving people wrong.

Can't wait to see your shit team fuck it up again under Van Gaal.

You're due to finish outside the top 4 then.

 

[Vivalaraza]

MEN also say Shaw is nearly done too.

It's good to support the world's football club.

I really hope we can wrap Shaw up before the World Cup. I will feel alot better about things and then I can just watch videos of him and think about him.

Guillem also told us that Herrera was a done deal, that the paper work was being signed.

he is a tool

Ballgue has very close contacts with Barcelona and Fabregas though. He is factually correct about this.