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[Barzul]

My 2 cents regarding the World Cup.

- Argentina went very far playing horrible, even so my heart has a place for la albiceleste ever since I saw Caniggia score against Brasil back in 1990, Victor Hugo Morales made that legendary; however they overachieved with really bad tactics and individualites.
- Aguero & Messi's fitness are a joke, Messi walked during the last 40 minutes of the game, Aguero was done after 30 minutes in the pitch, even so they managed to create some issues when they had posession in the final third.
- Germany is the deserve winner, players like Mueller continue to impress, he is the heart and soul of this team, I see him as the spiritual succesor to Matthaus, a player able to play in any position in midfield, what a complete player.
- The most underrated player in the german team imo is Howedes, he reminds me a lot of Ivanovic, not sure why more teams havent go for him yet; he is a great player.
- Messi winning the Golden Ball is a joke, lets not even debate that.

And last but not least, a dark age for south american football has begun, if this was the worst Brazilian team we have seen, the argentinians imo are a bit worse.

Agreed with all you said until that part. At least the Argentinians know how to defend.

 

[Mr Cola]

I tune into SSN and there is a Magician on there claiming he predicted the WC

Pre-season taking its toll on our sports networks

 

[Meier]

Germany's big plans for their National team's football comes to fruition. The Golden Generation delivered. Löw becomes a World Cup winning manager.
Take note FA. Cunts.

England really do need a B team system. I know all of the Conference teams and the like are shaking in their boots at the thought, but if they [England] want to ever have a shot at matching up with the other primary European nations again, it'll go a long way.

Jesus, £750m for a kit deal?

Man Utd board be like this:

Loved this movie. Oft overlooked.

Our away kit this season is the first Adidas kit I've liked. I miss Umbro.

Me too. Great designs, but more importantly, they fit like a glove.

It's dependant on how many fans there are to buy shirts.

Not really. Brand name is the more important aspect. The kit deals are really just advertising for the most part -- these companies make a relative pittance on the actual shirt sales.

 

[D4Danger]

I tune into SSN and there is a Magician on there claiming he predicted the WC

Pre-season taking its toll on our sports networks

predicted what? That the best team would win?

 

[Lambda Pie]

England really do need a B team system. I know all of the Conference teams and the like are shaking in their boots at the thought, but if they [England] want to ever have a shot at matching up with the other primary European nations again, it'll go a long way.

B teams is great. so many talent getting rotation instead of being loaned and siting on the bench. fitness and confidence levels stay high. already have competitive rhythm when called to the main squad.

 

[DBT85]

Not really. Brand name is the more important aspect. The kit deals are really just advertising for the most part -- these companies make a relative pittance on the actual shirt sales.

Who makes all the money then?

 

[tarzanpuyol]

Agreed with all you said until that part. At least the Argentinians know how to defend.

well they always did, Argentina unlike their Braz counterparts have always had solid CBs, but yesterday's goal was a huge error by Garay, and just having people like demichellis, Campagnaro in the squad shows a total lack of first team bench in the argentinian football.

just 12 years ago we had Ayala, Samuel, Sorin, Chamot, Pochetino, Rojo as good as he is he isnt Sorin, and the rest are well below the levels of their predecesors.

 

[jts]

Who makes all the money then?

The little children in China producing them.

 

[Nicktendo86]

Fucking hell.

United are in a class of their own.

Spoiler

Shutup

The table is wrong anyway, should be £75 per year.

 

[Vivalaraza]

Wait, they're comparing Utd's shirt manufacturing and sponsorship deals with just the shirt manufacturers. Of course it seems ridiculous then. RM probably get a shit ton from extra sponsorship and it'd be pretty close if you included it

Yeah weird stat.

But that £150m is pretty much equal to Madrid's total commercial revenue from last year.

PSG bring in the most commercial revenue in the world, ha.

 

[Lana Del Rey]

lol at those Sky fixtures

£75m over 10 years.

 

[King_Moc]

Yeah weird stat.

But that £150m is pretty much equal to Madrid's total commercial revenue from last year.

PSG bring in the most commercial revenue in the world, ha.

They also bring in by far the most "miscellaneous revenue".

 

[Salvadora]

Telegraph running with Khedira to Arsenal.

IT'S HAPPENING!

 

[Meier]

Who makes all the money then?

In United's case, it sounds like they [United] will according to Viva -- this would frankly be unprecedented I'd imagine especially given the money involved. Usually there is a split though between the manufacturer and the club. Obviously there's overhead as well but surely it's fairly minimal. Here are fairly detailed figures/estimates from a few years ago:

So the gross sales might be £50-75m (at the high end). For most of the manufacturers, they're maybe breaking even at best in terms of profits when you factor in any sort of club revenue sharing. They consider this to be an advertising deal primarily -- the Nike swoosh or Adidas logo is on every piece of non-suit clothing the club wears effectively for 10 years.

 

[Mr.Marston]

Telegraph running with Khedira to Arsenal.

IT'S HAPPENING!

 

[Salazar]

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha we're so fucking rich.

Nike have just dropped us so that they can swoop for Liverpool from Warrior.

Can't you see it, Horse ?

 

[tarzanpuyol]

Telegraph running with Khedira to Arsenal.

IT'S HAPPENING!

with Kroos and Illarra, RM dont need Khedira.

 

[L1NETT]

England really do need a B team system. I know all of the Conference teams and the like are shaking in their boots at the thought, but if they [England] want to ever have a shot at matching up with the other primary European nations again, it'll go a long way.
.

Laughable

The reason we aren't winning World Cups isn't because Liverpool B's aren't playing Forest Green Rovers every saturday. Basic lack of decent coaches and a balked loan system are perhaps more important.

You are a taking away a large part of what makes the lower leagues so strong in the interest of a few monolithic clubs

But we've danced this dance before in the thread, no need to do it again. Let's agree to disagree.

 

[Carbonox]

Janmaat having his medical at Newcastle tomorrow (could even be today). RB sorted.

What's happening with Demba Ba? He's still linked with us but I've heard nothing of anyone going for him. Remy business is oddly quiet too. No chance of us signing him on a permanent though.

 

[Blablurn]

 

[L1NETT]

Enner Valencia having a medical at West Ham

I'm gonna say he'll score.....3 league goals

Maybe one in the carling cup against Bury

 

[Blablurn]

For Milch

 

[Milchmonster]

Großkreutz needs a week or two to comprehend what happened.

I wish he would have gotten some play time but I think he's happy as it is, too.

 

[sohois]

In United's case, it sounds like they [United] will according to Viva -- this would frankly be unprecedented I'd imagine especially given the money involved. Usually there is a split though between the manufacturer and the club. Obviously there's overhead as well but surely it's fairly minimal. Here are fairly detailed figures/estimates from a few years ago:

So the gross sales might be £50-75m (at the high end). For most of the manufacturers, they're maybe breaking even at best in terms of profits when you factor in any sort of club revenue sharing. They consider this to be an advertising deal primarily -- the Nike swoosh or Adidas logo is on every piece of non-suit clothing the club wears effectively for 10 years.

Hasn't it already been suggested that United's new deal includes no cut of sales? Would go a long way to explaining why it seems so large compared to all the other deals.

I know that Liverpool were supposed to get a huge cut from the Warrior deal, something like 50% - though 50% of what would be a good queston

 

[Willkiller]

Janmaat having his medical at Newcastle tomorrow (could even be today). RB sorted.

What's happening with Demba Ba? He's still linked with us but I've heard nothing of anyone going for him. Remy business is oddly quiet too. No chance of us signing him on a permanent though.

I'm genuinely excited about our team again. Feels good man.

 

[Milchmonster]

For Milch

Do you have it without the text as well?

 

[confuziz]

Entire Feyenoord defense gone :lol

the CL qualifiers will be fun..

 

[Lana Del Rey]

The guardian

Manchester United are close to finalising a £31.8m deal for Arturo Vidal after reaching agreement with Juventus over the multifunctional midfielder. Patrice Evra will head to Turin to help Bianconeri fans come to terms with their loss. The capture of the Chilean will come as great relief to Louis van Gaal, after Ángel di María became the latest player to reject United in favour of Champions League football. The Real Madrid forward is set to agree a £50m deal with Paris Saint-Germain.

Real Madrid have also agreed to let Sami Khedira join Arsenal, so confident are they in adding James Rodríguez and Toni Kroos to their ranks of brilliance. Khedira will signa four-year contract to join his bosom buddy Mesut Özil at the Emirates.

 

[Barzul]

Janmaat having his medical at Newcastle tomorrow (could even be today). RB sorted.

What's happening with Demba Ba? He's still linked with us but I've heard nothing of anyone going for him. Remy business is oddly quiet too. No chance of us signing him on a permanent though.

Go ahead and announce the Debuchy deal. It's run on too long. Guess y'all wanted to secure a replacement before confirming.

 

[Scum]

Enner Valencia having a medical at West Ham

I'm gonna say he'll score.....3 league goals

Maybe one in the carling cup against Bury

And the other two on his debut against us.

 

[Blablurn]

Do you have it without the text as well?

but of course

 

[Pennywise]

I wish he would have gotten some play time but I think he's happy as it is, too.

He was already ready when Schweinsteiger got back up, and it was necessary to get somenone like Mertesacker in to counter these long balls.


I can't :x

 

[Gibbo]

Janmaat having his medical at Newcastle tomorrow (could even be today). RB sorted.

What's happening with Demba Ba? He's still linked with us but I've heard nothing of anyone going for him. Remy business is oddly quiet too. No chance of us signing him on a permanent though.

Remy will be huge for us. Sadly I think we're not even in his top 3 of preferred clubs.

 

[Shatner's Bassoon]

is that a poltergeist behind Hummels?

 

[Salvadora]

Would be really surprised if Chelsea sold more kits than Liverpool (and Arsenal).

 

[Milchmonster]

but of course

Thanks!

 

[tarzanpuyol]

Enner Valencia having a medical at West Ham

I'm gonna say he'll score.....3 league goals

Maybe one in the carling cup against Bury

nah he is legit.

 

[Scum]

Lovely weather today.

is that a poltergeist behind Hummels?

 

[Barzul]

Ospina to Arsenal

4 million Euros. He speaks French and Spanish, so he'll fit in well.

 

[Vivalaraza]

Hasn't it already been suggested that United's new deal includes no cut of sales? Would go a long way to explaining why it seems so large compared to all the other deals.

I know that Liverpool were supposed to get a huge cut from the Warrior deal, something like 50% - though 50% of what would be a good queston

It includes a cut of sales.

Don't know what the cut is.

 

[Da DreadLord]

is that a poltergeist behind Hummels?

I think that's just a coat.

 

[Meier]

Laughable

The reason we aren't winning World Cups isn't because Liverpool B's aren't playing Forest Green Rovers every saturday. Basic lack of decent coaches and a balked loan system are perhaps more important.

You are a taking away a large part of what makes the lower leagues so strong in the interest of a few monolithic clubs

But we've danced this dance before in the thread, no need to do it again. Let's agree to disagree.

I'm sorry, but it really just feels like leaning on nostalgia to suggest that the B team system would not help England's young players improve. It is not a coincidence that Germany, Spain, France, Portugal and others use this system and their young players develop better and appear further along at a young age. With Italy going away from co-ownership, I wonder if they'll look into doing it as an alternative.

I know I'm happy that Julian Green got a good number of games for Bayern II. I'm certain his staying around the club and getting the chance to play fairly competitive games went a long way in his development.

Hasn't it already been suggested that United's new deal includes no cut of sales? Would go a long way to explaining why it seems so large compared to all the other deals.

I know that Liverpool were supposed to get a huge cut from the Warrior deal, something like 50% - though 50% of what would be a good queston

Ahh, I misread his comment -- thought he said they were getting most of the sales.. but it looks like he just mentioned a cut (probably fairly minimal you'd think).

 

[Barzul]

Would be really surprised if Chelsea sold more kits than Liverpool (and Arsenal).

Our sales were shit because he had very little star power. Pretty much only Cesc then RVP. With Ozil and Sanchez and very soon Ramsey. We'll be raking in a lot.

 

[Shatner's Bassoon]

Chelsea shirt sales will explode once we re-sign Tiago.

 

[Coldnoodle]

Nintendo pls

I need a new F-Zero hnnnnnnngh

 

[Lana Del Rey]

Chelsea shirt sales will explode once we re-sign Tiago.

And Drogba

 

[Vivalaraza]

On how much shirt sales bring in, Adidas said they expect merchandise sales to generate £1.5bn over the 10 years.

 

[Salazar]

I'm sorry, but it really just feels like leaning on nostalgia

One team per club is only a minuscule trace element of competitive egalitarianism. No matter how fucking rich you are, you only get a certain amount of competitive agency. Or competitive mass, as it were.

Hard not to feel like something ethically fundamental would be sacrificed.

 

[Salvadora]

Ospina to Arsenal

4 million Euros. He speaks French and Spanish, so he'll fit in well.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S BASICALLY CONFIRMED.

THIS IS THE BEST TRANSFER WINDOW FOR ARSENAL FANS IN YEARS

 

[LegoArmo]

Arsenal didn't win much of anything for 10 years, a whole new generation of children grew up supporting Chelsea. I assume a large percentage of football shirt sales are to younger people.