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[Meier]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9fe8bJ1hhQ

German is such a horrible sounding language, lol. It's like the Boston accent of languages.

 

[phaze]

The guardian

Don't want Khedira to be honest. No that good and a bit old. Goddamned Germans pushing my beloved Spaniards out of the squad.

 

[Dutch Gronk]

And Drogba

That's the one I'll be getting when he comes back.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

I'm sorry, but it really just feels like leaning on nostalgia to suggest that the B team system would not help England's young players improve. It is not a coincidence that Germany, Spain, France, Portugal and others use this system and their young players develop better and appear further along at a young age. With Italy going away from co-ownership, I wonder if they'll look into doing it as an alternative.

I know I'm happy that Julian Green got a good number of games for Bayern II. I'm certain his staying around the club and getting the chance to play fairly competitive games went a long way in his development.



Ahh, I misread his comment -- thought he said they were getting most of the sales.. but it looks like he just mentioned a cut (probably fairly minimal you'd think).

Maybe it would help a bit, not to the extent that it's worth sacrificing the sancitity of our league system though

Number of coaches is the biggest issue I think. Not enough coaches at the bottom, not enough good coaches at the top

 

[john whiteguy84]

Remy will be huge for us. Sadly I think we're not even in his top 3 of preferred clubs.

Rumor is making a push for ba and Remy, also close to locking up emmanuel Riviere from Monaco.... First time in a long time I could say I love the business we've done in a transfer window

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

Would be really surprised if Chelsea sold more kits than Liverpool (and Arsenal).

Puma have Arsenal on the front of their korean homepage and I am guessing it will be on most country ones too. Puma are really gonna try and push this Arsenal deal, but I can't help but feel we will sell less shirts. Nike and Adidas stores are everywhere, while Puma have less. Casuals are more likely to buy Nike and Adidas club produxts than puma.

 

[Meier]

Would be really surprised if Chelsea sold more kits than Liverpool (and Arsenal).

Those numbers are an average of 5 years from 07-08 through 11-12. Arsenal and Liverpool won 0 trophies in this period. Chelsea won 1 PL, 3 FA Cups and the UCL in that period. I don't think it'd be unsurprising to see that they'd sold more shirts on average.

If I had to guess, Arsenal and Liverpool sold more in the US though. I have always seen a good number of those shirts here.

 

[sohois]

Most of Germany's first 11 had about 10-20 appearances for their respective B team. So about what a player would get from most loans.

I would hardly imagine it played a big role.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

BT have the first game of the season, Liverpool v Southampton is on the Sunday.

Also it appears they haven't updated games for Saturday Night Football yet so those aren't final, I guess. Only 15 mins till we find out anyway.

Fuck's sake. Not only do Man Utd have an unprecedented easy start to the season, we have 2 hard fixtures after the first (and even the first fixture, we lost the equivalent match last year), and we'll be on the back foot from the start with 0 points when everyone else is already leaving us in their wake

Fucking conspiracy.

 

[King_Moc]

Most of the kids at my youth club are into the same big three as ever: Utd, Lfc and Arsenal. We do have one Chelsea fan, but that's out of about 40 people. There's also one QPR fan. Not indicative of the whole world, I know, but still.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Those numbers are an average of 5 years from 07-08 through 11-12. Arsenal and Liverpool won 0 trophies in this period. Chelsea won 1 PL, 3 FA Cups and the UCL in that period. I don't think it'd be unsurprising to see that they'd sold more shirts on average.

If I had to guess, Arsenal and Liverpool sold more in the US though. I have always seen a good number of those shirts here.

Minor note, we won the League Cup in 11/12

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

Those numbers are an average of 5 years from 07-08 through 11-12. Arsenal and Liverpool won 0 trophies in this period. Chelsea won 1 PL, 3 FA Cups and the UCL in that period. I don't think it'd be unsurprising to see that they'd sold more shirts on average.

If I had to guess, Arsenal and Liverpool sold more in the US though. I have always seen a good number of those shirts here.

I think Chelsea have us beat in the US, Liverpool are top in Asia and we are top in Africa.

 

[Milchmonster]

Miiiiiiroooooo

I'm really fucking happy for him. One 2nd place, two third places, one WELTMEISTER title, top scorer at the WC.

What a legend.

 

[Salvadora]

Fuck's sake. Not only do Man Utd have an unprecedented easy start to the season, we have 2 hard fixtures after the first (and even the first fixture, we lost the equivalent match last year), and we'll be on the back foot from the start with 0 points when everyone else is already leaving us in their wake

Fucking conspiracy.

"They've got it the way they want it"
/

 

[Pennywise]

Thanks!

MILCH.

Looks like Mitrovic, the Ginter replacement is already having the medical checkup at Freiburg.

Ginter is coming !

 

[Freewheelin']

Have we signed that German fitness coach yet? Will be the most important signing of the summer for Arsenal

 

[Meier]

Maybe it would help a bit, not to the extent that it's worth sacrificing the sancitity of our league system though

This seems like a widespread view, but what I don't understand about it is that there are similarly extensive footballing pyramids in the other countries that do use the B system. It's not like all of them just have a few tiers and that's it.

Most of Germany's first 11 had about 10-20 appearances for their respective B team. So about what a player would get from most loans.

I would hardly imagine it played a big role.

Of course it played a role. The concept of it is that you're playing competitive games in the system that you're going to utilize when you step up to the "A" team. If you get loaned out, you might play.. but there's no guarantee of that and there's also a high likelihood that you won't play in the same style as your own home club. The B team players also can still train with the main squad, can still play in the Champions League (Julian Green got a few minutes in it) or other cup competitions, etc.

Yes, they had a shitty World Cup, but look at Spain's squad. Almost all of their players have multiple seasons for their respective clubs' B teams.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Can 'Done Dealio' be the next Rumbo pls

 

[Mr Cola]

Stop it, Vidal is not coming

 

[Broder Salsa]

I will refuse to believe Vidal is going to United until I see him playing for them, holding a shirt won't be enough. How can Juve be this fucking stupid and how can no other clubs in a better position be in for him? He isn't the worlds best midfielder

Spoiler

hicky

, but he should still have higher standards than that.

 

[Gibbo]

Rumor is making a push for ba and Remy, also close to locking up emmanuel Riviere from Monaco.... First time in a long time I could say I love the business we've done in a transfer window

Agreed. The amount of of transfer buzz surrounding the club the past 2 weeks is insane. Even crazier are the number of deals which are slowl materializing. Hopefully gone are the days where players like Ameobi have a place in the starting 11

 

[cartoon_soldier]

The guardian

Guardian...gives this more legitimacy?

 

[K1LLER7]

Horsey that's fake.

HOWEVER


The Tanc
"Manchester United and Vidal have agreement on principles. Waiting for official bid."

Yurt, Zabo, just let him go. He wants out

 

[Scum]

Have we signed that German fitness coach yet? Will be the most important signing of the summer for Arsenal

I will refuse to believe Vidal is going to United until I see him playing for them, holding a shirt won't be enough. How can Juve be this fucking stupid and how can no other clubs in a better position be in for him? He isn't the worlds best midfielder

Spoiler

hicky

, but he should still have higher standards than that.

You want him at Chelsea, don't you?

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

I will refuse to believe Vidal is going to United until I see him playing for them, holding a shirt won't be enough. How can Juve be this fucking stupid and how can no other clubs in a better position be in for him? He isn't the worlds best midfielder

Spoiler

hicky

, but he should still have higher standards than that.

Tanc says it's happening m8. It's over.

 

[Mr Cola]

I just learned people buy FUT coins off of other services for little money and here I am buying through the EA store.

 

[Vivalaraza]

Agreeing with Vidal is the easy bit. Just give him a £200k/week contract and his agent £5m. Done.

Getting him to force his way out/getting Juve to sell - that's the actual negotiating.

 

[Willkiller]

Agreed. The amount of of transfer buzz surrounding the club the past 2 weeks is insane. Even crazier are the number of deals which are slowl materializing. Hopefully gone are the days where players like Ameobi have a place in the starting 11

Window has only been open for two weeks too, good signs.

 

[Broder Salsa]

You want him at Chelsea, don't you?

Meh, already got Ramires. If we have to take a CM from Juve it should be Pogba, just for United tears and his young age.

 

[Jarnet87]

I will refuse to believe Vidal is going to United until I see him playing for them, holding a shirt won't be enough. How can Juve be this fucking stupid and how can no other clubs in a better position be in for him? He isn't the worlds best midfielder

Spoiler

hicky

, but he should still have higher standards than that.

Vidal knows the power of Lewis. He is not bother by the lack of "champions league football" AKA 6 games in Europe. Enjoy the irrelevance of France Di Maria, your next move is back to Argentina as you'll be long forgotten. That or Newcastle.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Horsey that's fake.

Damn, was sure Done Dealio was real.

 

[wedward]

Sanchez, Khedira and Cavani. In one window. O baby.

 

[Scum]

Meh, already got Ramires. If we have to take a CM from Juve it should be Pogba, just for United tears and his young age.

'Blackheart' Wooden.

 

[sohois]

This seems like a widespread view, but what I don't understand about it is that there are similarly extensive footballing pyramids in the other countries that do use the B system. It's not like all of them just have a few tiers and that's it.

Of course it played a role. The concept of it is that you're playing competitive games in the system that you're going to utilize when you step up to the "A" team. If you get loaned out, you might play.. but there's no guarantee of that and there's also a high likelihood that you won't play in the same style as your own home club. The B team players also can still train with the main squad, can still play in the Champions League (Julian Green got a few minutes in it) or other cup competitions, etc.

Yes, they had a shitty World Cup, but look at Spain's squad. Almost all of their players have multiple seasons for their respective clubs' B teams.

But there are plenty of teams with good youth production and without any B teams though.

Playing in similar systems and roles is useful for clubs, but not so much from a general national perspective. Many coaches and trainers would praise the idea of young players developing by learning to play in different positions, with different styles and ideas. You frequently see young players tried out in a range of positions and it's easy to see how it could be beneficial.

In addition, chances are the national team will then play in a different way from any club team. A player who has spent his career playing the same role in the same team would not at all be suited to a national setup.

Unless you have silky no.10s playing in long ball clank teams there is rarely a disadvantage to players learning different ways; and even such a case is the fault of the loaner and loanees not properly researching the team and player respectively. A well managed loan setup would avoid such issues.

 

[omgkitty]

Sanchez, Khedira and Cavani. In one window. O baby.

 

[D_prOdigy]

I will refuse to believe Vidal is going to United until I see him playing for them, holding a shirt won't be enough. How can Juve be this fucking stupid and how can no other clubs in a better position be in for him? He isn't the worlds best midfielder

Spoiler

hicky

, but he should still have higher standards than that.

yes

yes

 

[Barzul]

Sanchez, Khedira and Cavani. In one window. O baby.

I'd melt.

 

[Wilbur]

I will refuse to believe Vidal is going to United until I see him playing for them, holding a shirt won't be enough. How can Juve be this fucking stupid and how can no other clubs in a better position be in for him? He isn't the worlds best midfielder

Spoiler

hicky

, but he should still have higher standards than that.

Who do you think is the worlds best? Not sniping :lol, just curious.

 

[K1LLER7]

Damn, was sure Done Dealio was real.

Soon horsey.

Soon.

 

[Jarnet87]

Meh, already got Ramires. If we have to take a CM from Juve it should be Pogba, just for United tears and his young age.

The only team Pogba is going to in the EPL is City. Raiola and his young mercenary will get that Yaya money.

 

[Salvadora]

Sorry to inform you Wooden, but Ramires is going to Madrid.

 

[K1LLER7]

Couldn't give a damn about Pogba. He doesn't follow Adnan on twitter

 

[Diablo Rosso]

Couldn't give a damn about Pogba. He doesn't follow Adnan on twitter

Maybe that's because Adnan isn't on Twitter.

 

[Salvadora]

Maybe that's because Adnan isn't on Twitter.

Kid A is on twitter, D.

 

[Milchmonster]

MILCH.

Looks like Mitrovic, the Ginter replacement is already having the medical checkup at Freiburg.

Ginter is coming !

Fucking great!

Off to university now, trying to win my own world cup, still feeling and looking like shit, though :lol

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Maybe that's because Adnan isn't on Twitter.

Not true, seen Viva chatting with him.

 

[K1LLER7]

Maybe that's because Adnan isn't on Twitter.

KidA said he was though

Okay Pogba's cool. Please don't go to Chelsea.

 

[Broder Salsa]

Who do you think is the worlds best? Not sniping :lol, just curious.

Well it's always a bit silly to talk about the worlds best, different midfielders are good at different things and such, actually rather hate the talk like when we have our daily GOAT talk, but there's many CM's I would rather have than Vidal. Modric, Koke, Franco Mussis and such.

 

[GQman2121]

The other top Adidas clubs must be licking their chops at the idea of renewing their deals.

Nine more seasons on our current contract.

 

[Diablo Rosso]

KidA said he was though

Okay Pogba's cool. Please don't go to Chelsea.

I'm not aware of Adnan being on Twitter. The official United Twitter would be following him if he was you would think.