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Football Thread 2013/14 |OT7| The Ramsey Effect
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Its not a 20 team league as in, there's a chance one of every single team will win the league... but as it stands, I think you could make a case for five different teams winning the Premier League. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who, even after tonight, would be willing to back Atletico to have a real chance to win the league.
When the * did I talk about transfers? When did I even talk about Bale? Get a grip.
Perez don't dictate anything in his second term, that much can all madridistas see. The blame on Carlo was his starting eleven and his substitutions.
He were completely off taking out Di Maria and Isco at half time for one.
The players were to blame too of course. Pepe and Ramos lost the mind games, Coentrao were frustrating and had many bad passes, so did all of them. Cristiano had an off day and don't make me mention Benzema.
KidA Seven
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She's a United fan too
FootballFan
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KidA Seven
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Nah, it's usually between 2-3 teams winning the league. Maybe it's different this year though. Still, upsets happen a lot more in the PL than in La Liga.
Gorgeous post. Unfortunately only the second best of the night, bud knocked it out of the fucking park
Agreed. Nani looked good again. Hopefully he can keep it going this season. Thought Rooney had his weakest game so far this season, yet still grabbed a goal.
One of the worrying things about the team, is that it's so easy for opponents to get a clear run at the defence. I want Moyes to try a 4-3-3 and play Shinji as the furthest forward of the 3.
---------- De Gea ------------
Rafa --- Vidic --- Evans --- Evra
-------------- Carrick ---------
------Fellani--------------
----------------kagawa---
Nani/Adnan -- RVP ----- Rooney
Carrick and Fellani should stay back and help the defence when United attack. It would also let Kagawa influence the game more.
Benzema cant do shit if he doesnt get the ball. Forwards need service to make shit happen. did we get that service today? that should be very obvious. I've never seen cr7 get so few chances. for him to get so few chances... there was no service to speak of. 3-4 chances is fucking peanuts. cr7 usually gets more than 20+ chances and this game he barely got more than 3-5 at best. benzema had 2-4 chances and all of them were very difficult to take.
With our current setup under Carlo, Midfield control and support is more important than ever and for us to have totally lost the midfield battle, we lost as a result. it doesn't help isco, illarra, and khedira playing together are not familiar with each other yet. also, isco was going too forward for my liking rather than helping buildup play and chance creation this game and imo that really hurt us. isco not helping creating chances. Carlo Ancelotti has been instructing benz to be more of a 9 than his true self so Isco really has to pick up Benzema's work or else another loss is to be expected.
accursed ancelotti, picking arbeloa over carvajal. old habits die hard dont they Carlo?
Still early in the season but it seems we're in for some rough waters for the time being.
Now I am actually concerned about going up against farsa and juve... bloody hell we will be crushed if we continue to play like this.
Dark Rider
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I'm sorry Willbur, but I find it hard to make a case for more than 2-3 teams each year winning the EPL (keep in mind MU is always one of those 2-3 and has 50%-60% chance of winning it so they are the favorites).
I could throw out all the memories from the long years of watching the EPL and pretend that those 4-5 teams at the top of the table might win it
but seeing MU win it more than half of the time made it hard to take those teams seriously
LabouredSubterfuge
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What we should actually do is buy a left winger so we can stop continually playing people unsuited to the position out there. This would save us from making them look shit and our left wing being fucking impotent.
Can Crusher
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Ancelloti sucks, it's going to be a long season for Madrid fans. He will be out next year no doubt.
wasn't it di maria who lost the ball that led to the goal?
and yes, he should have taken off benz instead of isco
we had two dms? where? I want to see them.
We had isco who is a am playing cm. Illarramendi who is a cm who cant play dm at all. and khedira who is a b2b mid with zero dm qualities.
where are the dms you speak of?
Sleeplessnights
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AML Rooney? Killer, pls. Laboured knows wha' gwaan. Should have paid £40m - £45m for Baines & Felliani.
Rooney and RVP have to play.
Moyes loves wingers.
Rooney is better on the wing than Shinji imo.
Would rather see Shinji in midfield and influence games.
I stand corrected. Illarra is a CM yes. But I see Khedira more as a b2b DM; he got absolute no qualities going forward anyways.
We're in a situation at the moment where Atletico have won 7 out of 7, gone away to their biggest rivals and won for the first time in 15 years, and no one is saying they can win the title. Instead, Madrid have lost it and Barca have won it.
In the Premier League if United lose a match, then we know that there will be an opportunity to reclaim lost points when one of the league's 'smaller' sides takes points off City or Chelsea, and after a loss no one says "well United have lost the league". In La Liga, it went from tongue in cheek 'well Madrid have lost the league, they drew away at Granada' to a reality. They're picking up 95, 100 points every season. It's fucking insanity.
There's just a better level of competition in the Premier League. It might not mean the league's teams are stronger as a whole - Spain's top three or four sides are certainly better than England's, you might get a few very good mid table sides like Betis or Bilbao that are better than England's, although Swansea > Valencia #yolo - but overall, I think you see more upsets and hard fought wins for the lesser and brighter lights of the PL than you do in La Liga, and that to me makes it a more interesting league for the title race.
That's why I like Serie A more as well; I feel like Juve, Milan, Napoli, Inter, Fiorentina, Roma and Lazio are all capable of taking points off each other, and they're all capable of dropping far more points than Madrid and Barca do over the course of a season.
Aye Rooney is better suited to out there than Kagawa, although I can't see Moyes having the stones to swap them around.
Sleeplessnights
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I said stop.
Fucking hell.
Fucking hell.
Baconsaurus Rex
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Man U signed Baines in my FIFA14 career
And City tried to sign Ozil for £41.5M in the winter.
It's almost like real life.
And City tried to sign Ozil for £41.5M in the winter.
It's almost like real life.
if your gonna troll, do so properly. Did CR7 do any better than benz? ask urself that honestly.
In any case, I would not blame either CR7 or Benz. They did pretty well imo considering the support or rather, the lack of support they got from the rest of the team. Our forwards did relatively good considering how absent our midfield was.
in any case our loss was deserved and its all on Carlo. He should have known better than to start arbeloa. either pepe/ramos, khedira ahead of modric, carvajal, varane.
Our defense has gone full idiocy and our midfield is looking lost. bloody hell. I do not know what Carlo's designs are but our boys aren't getting it and he needs to do something about it and fast.
Baconsaurus Rex
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MOTD thoughts:
- City hard done by with that first goal for sure, but Hart's positioning for the second and the diabolical defending for the third means they can have no complaints. Architects of their own downfall there. Lacking some consistency which I thought had finally come to them; notice how they can win 3-0 away at the Czech champions but can't win in Birmingham? dat premier league
- Surprised Villa got the three points without Westwood/Gabby/Benteke but they'll be delighted with that. Might have got lucky a few times but Lambert continues to prove he's a tactically bright coach with a great line in motivation and man management. Doing a top job, all things considered.
- All three goals in that Swansea-Arse match were fantastic. Arsenal really building some character with wins like this, going away and adding fight to their game. The real test will come if Giroud or Mertesacker is injured for a long period of time, or even Ramsey who is becoming increasingly important to the way they play nowadays.
- Two very good goals in the Fulham-Cardiff match as well; the former are in trouble which is odd when you give their squad a quick glance. Some very talented players but barring Parker and one or two of their defenders (I particularly like Riether), there's too many players that are better aesthetically than they are when there's a fight on. Berbatov/Ruiz/Taarabt/Bent is not a forward line that can get into a scrap, they're ones that turn it on when they're 2-0 up at home against Palace.
- Speaking of that, they're going down. Just so little quality in the side. Saints look good though, was a bit worried they'd be unable to score today considering they look far better when they allow the opposition to come to them, but two good finishes. Still think if they can get Gaston playing as well as he can, he'd be a decent first team player. Offers something different that they don't really have when they start with the usual team.
- Hull were lucky as fuck today. West Ham were shit as fuck today.
- City hard done by with that first goal for sure, but Hart's positioning for the second and the diabolical defending for the third means they can have no complaints. Architects of their own downfall there. Lacking some consistency which I thought had finally come to them; notice how they can win 3-0 away at the Czech champions but can't win in Birmingham? dat premier league
- Surprised Villa got the three points without Westwood/Gabby/Benteke but they'll be delighted with that. Might have got lucky a few times but Lambert continues to prove he's a tactically bright coach with a great line in motivation and man management. Doing a top job, all things considered.
- All three goals in that Swansea-Arse match were fantastic. Arsenal really building some character with wins like this, going away and adding fight to their game. The real test will come if Giroud or Mertesacker is injured for a long period of time, or even Ramsey who is becoming increasingly important to the way they play nowadays.
- Two very good goals in the Fulham-Cardiff match as well; the former are in trouble which is odd when you give their squad a quick glance. Some very talented players but barring Parker and one or two of their defenders (I particularly like Riether), there's too many players that are better aesthetically than they are when there's a fight on. Berbatov/Ruiz/Taarabt/Bent is not a forward line that can get into a scrap, they're ones that turn it on when they're 2-0 up at home against Palace.
- Speaking of that, they're going down. Just so little quality in the side. Saints look good though, was a bit worried they'd be unable to score today considering they look far better when they allow the opposition to come to them, but two good finishes. Still think if they can get Gaston playing as well as he can, he'd be a decent first team player. Offers something different that they don't really have when they start with the usual team.
- Hull were lucky as fuck today. West Ham were shit as fuck today.
Sato Koiji
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Benz and CR7 were absolutely isolated from the midfield. Carlo..come on!
if he was anything of a b2b dm, half of our midfield problems would have been fixed.
I really don't understand how he has started. Casemiro has proven in preseason to be miles ahead of Khedira in terms of putting in a dm shift on the field. khedira is a useless punk with zero qualities.
Worse since 1989-90
won the FA Cup that year #believe
League show on now, show me the Jordan Rhodes brace so I can pretend he's my cousin to slags in Lancashire
KidA Seven
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As much I want Rppmey to play on the wing it won't happen. It would piss him off I think and he's the player most in form at the moment. Moyes is doing everything he can to keep him happy. Rppmey is much better defensively than Shinji so it wouldn't hurt us defensively like it does when Shinji pairs up with Evra on the left side. Sure he can't beat his man these days, but it's not like Shinji tries to do it either. Also, Rppmey isn't creative these days. He's a great goal scorer who likes to drop deep and ping the ball out wide. Shinji is much better at doing little flicks and giving a through ball around the box. Shinji also has great chemistry with Nani as they like to play a similar type of game. Shinji likes to act as a wall that can accurately flick/pass the ball back to anyone despite the pressure. Nani likes to initiate the 1-2s so he can have a go at goal.
This is the reason why I wanted Shinji to play as the number 10 for a while now.
Baconsaurus Rex
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Linius
Wat de fuck gebeurde er tussen de 48e en 53e minuut?
Wat de fuck gebeurde er tussen de 48e en 53e minuut?
We all do, but its not going to happen. We can do all the complaining we want on this most passionate of message boards, but to dave moyers egg its lost
like tears
in the rain
FootballFan
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Dirty fucker
Was actually surprised to see him do that, should have been sent off then..not later lol.
Sleeplessnights
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Dirty fucker
The look on Torres' face. What a sadist.
What really pisses me off is we are playing exactly like Carlo's shit psg last season before they sorted themselves out. I knew this would happen eventually but I didn't think it would happen so soon. Damn it Carlo is a stubborn one...
In any case its still too early and I will continue to show support for Carlo Ancelotti.
Though I must say, we are in for some rough waters for the time being.
In any case its still too early and I will continue to show support for Carlo Ancelotti.
Though I must say, we are in for some rough waters for the time being.
PrematureQuiche
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We really need to do a footy GAF meet up soon! The BritGAF one I just went too was so much fun!
Sviatoslav
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Turok, whose fault is it that Benzema hasn't scored for France in like two years, Mourinho's or Ancelotti's?
Ah you went? I looked at the thread but fuck meeting people I don't know
too scary
they'll judge my hair
yes, it is too early so everyone relax and give him some time
Baconsaurus Rex
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Sorry if dc
Not a single goal from open play since the first week of the season.
But dat Wooney FK
Not a single goal from open play since the first week of the season.
But dat Wooney FK
Same as you, no idea who half those fuckers are.
Would be up for a footy gaf one though. Problem is, where is closest for everyone?
LabouredSubterfuge
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I judge your hair through the internet.
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