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Football Thread 2013/14 |OT9|
- Thread starter Broder Salsa
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There are already awards for scoring goals too.
It's how I do.I didn't say that about Messi though! *shakes fist*
I said Bale was playing as well as Ronnie was at the time when he was just curling off jawdropping goals left and right earlier this year. Absolutely still stand by that. Bale was absolutely untouchable.
And yes, age does factor into whether one player is better than another. If you're 20 and doing the same thing as someone who is 28, you're a better than they are.
I think you might be playing too much FM.
pulga
Banned
jupp don't be ridiculous
Messi and Cristiano are two of the greatest the game has ever seen, and we're lucky we get to enjoy them both at the same time.
FIFA is a shitstain on the fabric of football.
Messi and Cristiano are two of the greatest the game has ever seen, and we're lucky we get to enjoy them both at the same time.
FIFA is a shitstain on the fabric of football.
I just don't see anything beyond 'normal' in Cristiano, he's an amazing player but not something out of ordinary like Messi, Zidane or even Ronaldinho
60 goals in a season is normal? 225 goals in 216 appearances is normal?
Yup, people are spoiled right now. Don't realize just how much better those two are than everyone else.
when Messi and Barca last won the CL in 2011, he "only" scored 31 goals in the league (he actually scored more the season prior). Granted he still managed to score ~50 in all competitions, but it wasn't quite at the level it's at now. The seasons afterwards, where there's been a noticeable increase in his goal tally (50, 46), the team has been less effective against good opposition. I don't think it's ridiculous to suggest that Ronaldo and Messi's ridiculous goal tallies come at some expense of the team.
therefore winning is important.
therefore winning is important.
FootballFan
Member
He deserves it for scoring less, assisting less than messi. Coming 2nd(15 pts behind) in the league. Flopping hard as fuck in the Copa final and getting sent off. And for the amazing performances in the CL semi's vs dortmund. All under the best coach in history apparently.
Stop letting his magnificent season right now confuse you lads, he was scoring but he wasn't half as good as he is now from January to August.
And no I am not just hating, but pls guys, stop and think for a bit. Even right now his team is 3rd in the league still. Calma pls.
RIBERY 4 BALL ON DOOR.
Messi and Ronaldo can have a fist fight for 2nd spot, even though they are both more 'special' and better than Ribery.
One more game to go. 1-0 is not a lead that cannot be caught!
Don't start that....
Freewheelin'
Member
I agree with the last part, like I said he's more an athlete than pure talent like Messi.
Scoring 50+ goals season. So Mario Gomez is another one of a kind? Don't see how the goals scored (also a lot from penalties) could work as indication of how good he is.
Why is your name football fan? The only thing you really talk about is Messi or Ronaldo. And when it is Ronaldo it's negative.
That's just out of context though when you view it like that. In 2012, Ronaldo's better goal tally led to them winning the league. Messi got 73 goals in 2011/12, and the loss against Chelsea was a fucking freak let's be honest. They hit the post what, five times over two games? That wasn't just coming at the expense of the team, Chelsea's name was just written in the stars that year.
Last year, he had some big injuries around the crucial time of the CL, Xavi got older and was less effective, and Bayern had just matured. A tad reductive to say that Messi's goal tally comes at the expense of the team.
Mario Gomez has never scored 50 goals in a season :lol, what an odd player to pick.
Mario Gomez has never scored 50.
Oh come on!
FootballFan
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Jupp pls. Ronaldo is definitely special. unlike Zidane, Messi and Dinho he relies more on his athleticism but he is still a special footballer. Definitely haven't been and won't be many more like him.
The consistency he and Messi show is ridiculous. You genuinely are surprised/concerned if they don't score in 2 matches in a row. If you wake up and see that Real Madrid played, click the score on livescore.com you will again almost certainly see Ronaldo's name.
That is just insane imo. Messi is the better of the 2 but being 2nd to a god is nothing I'd be upset about.
Sorry I'll just join this Messi/Ronaldo/Ribery conversation and talk about Ivan Vicelich... lol what do you expect?
I wasn't talking about it until you guys did, I was talking about Sanchez being on fire and shitting on Wilshere, talking about the Sweden-Portugal match etc.
Wedward pls understand.
KidA Seven
Member
Fuck that man.
I can't even imagine how many undeserving cunts will win the award. We all know Pique, Xavi, etc... will win in their positions.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Barcelona were poor against PSG also, had a terrible loss against a bad Milan side at the San Siro where they were legitimately awful. and the loss to Chelsea wasn't (completley) a freak result. They couldn't break them down. The missed penalty was a freak, but beyond thatthey barely threatened for the 40 or so minutes after that.
Barcelona have been legitimately poor in the CL for the past year and a half, in the context of them being crowned one of the greatest club sides of all time just the year before, with likely the best player of all time in their squad. I don't think that's by mistake or a one-off occurrence. I think it's a trend.
edit: also Messi scored more goals than Ronaldo in 2011-2012 when Madrid won the league
FootballFan
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Broder Salsa
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Don't forget it was Messi who lost the ball for the goal at Stamford Bridge... and he missed that penalty.
He couldn't score for all that game with Bosingwa at CB and Ramires as a RB.
Terrible player.
They were poor against PSG without Messi until he came on and galvanised them. They were legit awful against Milan until the second leg where Messi inspired them to win massively.
I think the entire team and Messi have had a poorer 2012/13 than they did in 2010/11 and 2011/12, and there's definitely an argument that its to the detriment of the team that Messi performs so well. But I think the argument for that would be they don't have a plan B and they look lost without him, as opposed to looking lost with him. He's struggled with injuries, Martino has come - an outside who doesn't necessarily slavishly wank over tiki taka and the La Masia way - and they've upped their game this season.
edit: re your edit, I meant Ronaldo's better tally compared to his own from the year before, not Messi's! Sorry, should have made it clearer.
KidA Seven
Member
I can't believe someone mentioned Drogba for the balon d'or. People forget that cunt gave away two penalties that should have knocked Chelsea out of the tournament. He's lucky Messi and Robben missed.
Oh yeah ahahahaha
Fuck, Drogba was dogshit in the league that year as well. Played well against Barca and Munich, and that was it, then fucked off to China. Ballon d'Or? :LoooooooomdomofsanfoafosainfosainsaoinfsaoSUENISACUNTounsfoafasoooooool
Pretty soon Khedira will be United's Iniesta ;_;
pulga
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he scored 41 goals without taking penalties
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