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[Gambit]

How do people not know Pacific Rim? That movie can't be dodged with all the marketing around it.

to be honest, I haven't seen a single advert for it either.

But I do watch very little actual television (except for DVDs), so I am not exposed to any kind of advertising. So I cannot say if there is a lot of marketing in Germany, but I can say that out of the 15 people at the birthday party I attended Monday night, I was the only one who had ever heard of the film.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC 2m

#MUFC rejected Chelsea's opening bid for Wayne Rooney last night. They insist he is not for sale.

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC 2m

Chelsea's opening offer for Wayne Rooney was cash plus a player. #MUFC told them to shove it.

It gets interestinger and interestingerer.

 

[Wes]

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC 1m
#MUFC rejected Chelsea's opening bid for Wayne Rooney last night. They insist he is not for sale.

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC 58s
Chelsea's opening offer for Wayne Rooney was cash plus a player. #MUFC told them to shove it.


This kind of brutal language!

 

[Walshy]

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC 2m
Chelsea's opening offer for Wayne Rooney was cash plus a player. #MUFC told them to shove it.

 

[Blablurn]

^^ lol u guys

to be honest, I haven't seen a single advert for it either.

But I do watch very little actual television (except for DVDs), so I am not exposed to any kind of advertising. So I cannot say if there is a lot of marketing in Germany, but I can say that out of the 15 people at the birthday party I attended Monday night, I was the only one who had ever heard of the film.

Cologne is full with posters for Grown Ups 2 and Wolverine (which comes next week) lol. No marketing at all. At least one friend of mine said she saw a commercial. But she hates the movie lol.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

WHAT?!

They offered Mata or Luiz?!?!

Take Mata now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

James Ducker ‏@DuckerTheTimes 1m

#mufc flatly rejected offer for rooney from #cfc last night of £10m plus mata OR luiz. Full story on times website

 

[PrematureQuiche]

Manchester United have rejected Chelsea's sensational opening offer for Wayne Rooney - £10million plus a player.

Sportsmail understands the two players remarkably on offer are Player of the Year Juan Mata or Brazil international David Luiz.

United have insisted the wantaway striker is not for sale and Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho must now decide whether to submit a fresh offer.

HAHAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK. THIS HAS TO BE BULLSHIT.

edit - WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING! PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME WE ARE NOT THIS FUCKING STUPID! I AM HAVING A FUCKING MELTDOWN HERE!

 

[Walshy]

United didn't want Mata or Luiz?

No way thats right.

 

[qindarka]

Smells like bullshit.

HAHAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK. THIS HAS TO BE BULLSHIT.

edit - WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING! PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME WE ARE NOT THIS FUCKING STUPID! I AM HAVING A FUCKING MELTDOWN HERE!

Jeez, calm down. It's just one rumour and we know how full of bullshit the media/Twitter is.

United didn't want Mata or Luiz?

No way thats right.

Yup, doesn't make any sense.

 

[Ushojax]

That sounds like complete shit but if United did turn down Mata + £10m then they are truly crazy. That would have been the bargain of the century.

 

[Walshy]

Ben Smith is reporting it now too.

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC
Chelsea offered David Luiz or Juan Mata plus £10m. United flaty rejected it. Chelsea will come back with another bid, however.

 

[PrematureQuiche]

Smells like bullshit.



Jeez, calm down. It's just one rumour and we know how full of bullshit the media/Twitter is.



Yup, doesn't make any sense.

but everyone is reporting it. This seems crazy :/

 

[Lightning]

That's bullshit. United wouldn't turn down Mata.

United are fucked in the head if they are rejecting that.

 

[FootballFan]

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC 1m
#MUFC rejected Chelsea's opening bid for Wayne Rooney last night. They insist he is not for sale.

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC 58s
Chelsea's opening offer for Wayne Rooney was cash plus a player. #MUFC told them to shove it.


Dayummm

 

[3Sixty]

If anything United should be offering Rooney + 10M for Mata.

 

[GorillaJu]

For everyone here who argued against me when I said that Ronaldo is a striker and not a winger, you should look at that stat list. The only stat in which Cristiano is a top 10 ranked player in the CL is in shooting (where he is ranked third). The two in front of Cristiano in shooting are Burak Yilmaz and Lewandowski.

In terms of chance creation or "take on," the two categories most associated with wingers/tricky wide players, he falls short and isn't in the top 10 for either category. Eden Hazard is in the top 10 for chance creation, and is top spot for take on.

 

[qindarka]

Just how reliable is this Ben Smith anyway?

 

[Shatner's Bassoon]

Smells like shit.

 

[kharma45]

Ben Smith is reporting it now too.

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC
Chelsea offered David Luiz or Juan Mata plus £10m. United flaty rejected it. Chelsea will come back with another bid, however.

Mata?! Da fuck?!

 

[Steverulez]

Wtf, I really hope this isn't true. I could see them letting Luiz go (Barce or PSG) but Mata?
The last rumours were that he was getting a new contract.

 

[Walshy]

So first he doesn't think Thiago is good enough for the EPL, then he turns down Mata + £10m for his second choice striker.

I'm really liking Moyes at United.

Just how reliable is this Ben Smith anyway?

Very reliable.

 

[D_prOdigy]

United are fucked in the head if they are rejecting that.

we are a bit fucked in the head tbf

 

[Salvadora]

That's bullshit. United wouldn't turn down Mata.

United are fucked in the head if they are rejecting that.

This is the same man who thought Thiago wasn't cut out for the EPL.

 

[Linius]

to be honest, I haven't seen a single advert for it either.

But I do watch very little actual television (except for DVDs), so I am not exposed to any kind of advertising. So I cannot say if there is a lot of marketing in Germany, but I can say that out of the 15 people at the birthday party I attended Monday night, I was the only one who had ever heard of the film.

That's surprising. I live in the country next to you and posters are everywhere here. Also magazines and papers wrote some lenghty pieces on it last week and this week. It's one of the bigger summer blockbusters. At least, that's how they market it. Seems logical since the budget of the film itself was huge and the studio obviously want to see that money back trough ticket sales.

 

[Shatner's Bassoon]

Goal have just reported it, so it's definitely a load of bollocks.

 

[Ushojax]

Shit, it's being reported everywhere. If Chelsea are this desperate then maybe United can wring a bit more money out of them.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

If it was just Luiz then I can understand - he's not Moyes's kind of defender. Mata would be sex tho.

 

[Steverulez]

Shit, it's being reported everywhere. If Chelsea are this desperate then maybe United can wring a bit more money out of them.

Why are we even so desperate for Rooney? We need to fix the defence before we worry about a new striker.

 

[Salvadora]

Mourinho is as mad as Moyes.

Trying to get rid of their best player.

 

[GorillaJu]

Well, according to that PDF
http://www.football-observatory.com/IMG/pdf/AR2013_exc-2.pdf

That I've been reading, they estimate Wayne Rooney's value at around 10m more than Juan Mata, so United aren't that crazy apparently!

 

[qindarka]

Mourinho is as mad as Moyes.

Trying to get rid of their best player.

Yes, because the media's words are gospel.

 

[kharma45]

I just don't understand. Are United hoping for an improved bid or what? The mind boggles.

 

[Lightning]

Well, according to that PDF
http://www.football-observatory.com/IMG/pdf/AR2013_exc-2.pdf

That I've been reading, they estimate Wayne Rooney's value at around 10m more than Juan Mata, so United aren't that crazy apparently!

English inflation on that? He's not £10m better on the pitch than Mata.

 

[Feorax]

Wow, everything just got a bit mental...

United are insane if this is true. So are Chelsea if they're willing to get rid of Mata.

 

[DominoKid]

WHAT?!

They offered Mata or Luiz?!?!

Take Mata now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DO THAT SHIT!

wouldn't even need the 10m.

 

[Freewheelin']

Why are Chelsea even thinking of selling their best player?! Wtf is going on?

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

I would honestly take Mata for a straight swap without cash. That said, you never accept the first offer.

 

[brokenbeans]

Biggest load of bullshit I've heard for ages.

Moyes would of took Mata plus cash in a heartbeat.

 

[LTWheels]

So first he doesn't think Thiago is good enough for the EPL, then he turns down Mata + £10m for his second choice striker.

I'm really liking Moyes at United.

I said a while back that Moyes is known to be very indecisive over transfers. Happy as a Liverpool fan.

 

[Salvadora]

Yes, because the media's words are gospel.

Get the pitchforks out.

 

[Steverulez]

I can't handle this, its too much. Mata could be our next Lampard (contribution, appearances, goals scored etc), he's got the talent, loves the club and he's a fan favourite.

Im going to the dentist, when I come back I expect a denial from the club!

 

[Feorax]

Also, if Chelsea offered us cash plus Luiz for Suarez, I'd have to say I'd be seriously tempted...

 

[FootballFan]

If Moyes was the one that said no, then man... sorry ManUtdBros, Moyes is taking you down.


fake edit

Goal have just reported it, so it's definitely a load of bollocks.

Ahh. No worries guys, it wasn't real after all.

For everyone here who argued against me when I said that Ronaldo is a striker and not a winger, you should look at that stat list. The only stat in which Cristiano is a top 10 ranked player in the CL is in shooting (where he is ranked third). The two in front of Cristiano in shooting are Burak Yilmaz and Lewandowski.

In terms of chance creation or "take on," the two categories most associated with wingers/tricky wide players, he falls short and isn't in the top 10 for either category. Eden Hazard is in the top 10 for chance creation, and is top spot for take on.

He is a stinger, a greedy one no matter what assists stats may have you believe.

When he takes more shots than both his strikers combined and assist less than the striker(Benz), you really can't say you are a winger.

He is a Stinger as Yurt says, a massive massive Stinger. Nothing wrong with that, but saying he is a winger is a bit wrong.

Reminds me of people saying Messi is a midfielder lol.

 

[PrematureQuiche]

I like the idea of Moyes just telling them to reject the first offer and then looking at it afterwards haha.

 

[qindarka]

Get the pitchforks out.

We'll see then. Truth be told, it is a little troubling if BBC and Sky Sports have gotten in on the act, even if the latter didn't mention a player swap.

 

[brokenbeans]

If this is true though in the last few days we just fucked up the chance to have Thiago and Mata.

 

[Ushojax]

Is it that crazy? There was talk as soon as Mou came back that he was willing to lose Mata, the player himself had to comment on the speculation.

 

[qindarka]

Is it that crazy? There was talk as soon as Mou came back that he was willing to lose Mata, the player himself had to comment on the speculation.

Yeah, but that came from Marca.

 

[GorillaJu]

I love Juan Mata, but Rooney is a better player, no question.

 

[kharma45]

We'll see then. Truth be told, it is a little troubling if BBC and Sky Sports have gotten in on the act, even if the latter didn't mention a player swap.

Yeah when BBC report i tend to believe.