Shirt deals and shirt sales aren't the same thing. Adidas is paying for exposure and prestige, not to sell Man Utd shirts. And besides they get the better end of the deal than the clubs do in sales since they control manufacturing and everything.
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Shirt deals and shirt sales aren't the same thing. Adidas is paying for exposure and prestige, not to sell Man Utd shirts. And besides they get the better end of the deal than the clubs do in sales since they control manufacturing and everything.
FootballFan
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Real Madrid would be the last club I'd trust in regards to revenue information.
If what they said is true every club would be spending around 100-200 million on star players, with no worry since it would all come back in shirt sales.
Exactly. Which is why that Madrid statement makes no sense.
Physical for me because I live in Australia and a digital copy costs $100...
And they wonder why piracy is so rampant here.
Ha ha. I'll concede this first point.
I think you're inflating how many star players there actually are. Stars with that pull power at least.
FootballFan
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Yeah that's true. Mainly talking ronaldo, Neymar, messi, Rooney, Bale, Munir, etc.
Edit
Forgot James Rodriguez............
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Lol
KidA Seven
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Remember that one kid who bought a Januzaj 44 shirt, but then Januzaj changed his number and United didn't want to exchange his shirt? No? Probably not. I just posted the photo without knowing who that kid was, but I now know.
incredible
/FootballFan
incredible
/FootballFan
He needs to perform this season or he's dead to me
FlutterPuffs
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Thing is, I won't be surprised if Real Madrid are trying to make themselves into a football... conglomerate of some kind.
Buying star players and banking on them to help turn a profit license, tshirt and branding-wise etc. Do I think it's a bad idea? Yes.
Do I really think that Real Madrid is actually pushing for it? Yes.
Buying star players and banking on them to help turn a profit license, tshirt and branding-wise etc. Do I think it's a bad idea? Yes.
Do I really think that Real Madrid is actually pushing for it? Yes.
KidA Seven
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Remember that hot japanese woman at the World Cup? Turns out she married the Japanese gk, Kawashima. She is half japanese half colombian.
Madrid, ManU and Barca all have quite the considerable outstanding debt. If shirt sales were all that then Madrid would have an incredible surplus of cash! but instead we're 400m+ in debt, Man U and Barca are both 300m+ in debt too.
There's a theory that's been floating around for a few years, where Florentino is trying to bankrupt Madrid so he and his partners can then buy it back. It's the only way anyone could ever own Real Madrid, since right now it can only be owned by the fans by law.
FootballFan
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What does this mean "/FootballFan"
explain or we are no longer footballgaf friends.
Lana Del Rey
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brokenbeans
Banned
woop!
Sunday morning MOTD soon.
Sunday morning MOTD soon.
Never heard this before. Interesting...
KidA Seven
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Everytime you praise a favorite player of yours you say "incredible." Don't put those shit conditions on me pls.
I have another theory. Real Madrid fans are making up silly theories to dodge the reality that their galactico philosophy won't always produce a good team, and that building a team is about more tha just buying the trendiest names for each individual position.
Lana Del Rey
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lololol
Nice article from the BBC about FC United. 10 years old next year and just completing a new 5000 seater stadium.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29178538
Didn't know they operate a "pay what you can afford" scheme for season tickets with a minimum price of £100 and a requested donation of £60.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29178538
Didn't know they operate a "pay what you can afford" scheme for season tickets with a minimum price of £100 and a requested donation of £60.
Yep.
La Decima was incredible for Florentino, it gave him the cred he needs.
This is what I think will happen:
-Madrid has a bad season only comparable to 2003-2004 (we finished 4th and Valencia won the league).
-We're terrible all season long.
-Players turn on each other so there's chaos.
-Florentino Resigns.
-A new president is elected by the fans.
-The financials of the club are dire.
-Two years pass (people forget how terrible Florentino was).
-Madrid goes into bankruptcy.
-Florentino comes up as the #1 bidder.
-The banks and the fans are happy about it.
-Florentino fully owns Real Madrid.
It's been reported on mayor Spanish media, not just the football newspapers.
Florentino's economics never made sense.
This year we had record incomes (605m), but less profits than last year (25m vs ~50m), and we won the CL so there was extra cash coming in.
Florentino wants to own Real Madrid, this isn't some crazy theory.
brokenbeans
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Now that's cool.
KidA Seven
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There's this u19 Vietnamese player named Nguyen Cong Phuong and he's apparently part of Arsenal's Vietnamese academy. He has great close control that allows him to dribble really well. I saw a couple of highlights in the u19 Asian championships and he caught my eye every time.
I wonder if he'll eventually go to London.
I wonder if he'll eventually go to London.
Just come to Bayern, Tubie.
Don't do this to me Bla.
I'm not gonna lie, I watched him yesterday.
Alonso will still be the best CDM in the world for 1-3 more years.
I can't believe we're trying to replace him with Kroos, they don't even play in the same position ffs...
If anything I'll just cheer Getafe on this season (which also looks dire as fuck).
Even if Madrid and United sold 100m worth of shirts per year, at most they'd be getting something like 20m of that on the high end (and it's probably even lower than that). You can buy a Danny Welbeck per year or pay 1-2 players' salaries. Shirt sales a nice revenue stream but they pale in comparison to many others especially for the top clubs.
The big teams sell essentially the same number of shirts every year regardless of who they sign. It just means a fan buys Y player instead of X for that season.
The big teams sell essentially the same number of shirts every year regardless of who they sign. It just means a fan buys Y player instead of X for that season.
Bayern played bad yesterday. And Alonso was the only reason why we didn't lose control over this game. After the game Pep said: "We need to help Xabi. Otherwise he's dead." Saying that he can't do THAT much in every game.
Can't wait for Thiago to be back. Xabi and Thiago HNG.
FootballFan
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Jesus Christ. KidA is right.
Since the 30th of August I've said it 14 times.
Incredible.
I need to expand my vocab.
Since the 30th of August I've said it 14 times.
Incredible.
I need to expand my vocab.
FootballFan
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Vielleicht.
MrPing1000
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Geez has it really been ten years. Must be gutting for their fans losing in the playoffs 4 years in a row, they were 1 point behind the league winners last season too, yuck.
Didn't United say the other day that they sold 2m official shirts last year?
At the Utd store price (£55) with no printing that's £110m. Obviously lots of people pay an extra £15 for printing and then you get the full kit wankers who buy even more crap.
But that also needs to be split between various parties, and the guy who makes each shirt gets 5p.
At the Utd store price (£55) with no printing that's £110m. Obviously lots of people pay an extra £15 for printing and then you get the full kit wankers who buy even more crap.
But that also needs to be split between various parties, and the guy who makes each shirt gets 5p.
Shirt makers (Adidas, Nike) make most of the money from those sales.
brokenbeans
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Big respect to Lukaku for his celebration yesterday or lack of.
*Last night*
[WhatsApp message] Mrs Yurt: coming nwwwww hahahaAHA
[Whatsapp message] Yurt: are you drinking at work again?
*15 mins later I hear someone knocking on my door*
*opens door*
Some girl with cornrows wearing a hiphop cap two sizes too big
Me: Wrong house *closes door*
[RUSSIAN EXPLICITS]
*opens door again* Are you crazy ;_; what the fuck you cunt ;_;
Her: FUCK. YOU. Its SWAG
I hope it's just a phase. Either way, I'm getting cornrows tomorrow, it looks funny.
[WhatsApp message] Mrs Yurt: coming nwwwww hahahaAHA
[Whatsapp message] Yurt: are you drinking at work again?
*15 mins later I hear someone knocking on my door*
*opens door*
Some girl with cornrows wearing a hiphop cap two sizes too big
Me: Wrong house *closes door*
[RUSSIAN EXPLICITS]
*opens door again* Are you crazy ;_; what the fuck you cunt ;_;
Her: FUCK. YOU. Its SWAG
I hope it's just a phase. Either way, I'm getting cornrows tomorrow, it looks funny.
Get some Pogba stripes.
Beard is getting bushy again. Was a dark, miserable day when I had to shave that motherfucker off. I felt like a twig on the Moyes family tree. I felt low.
Speaking of Moyes, a bit surprised he hasn't snagged a job yet. I mean, it sounds platitudinous - but that guy really loves managing football clubs. Granted, Woodward punted him very very very hard in the balls, but I would have thought he'd be back in the game.
A PL opening or two probably isn't far off, though.
We played incredibly sheit today but this guy finally did what we got him for. And the competition is losing left and right. All is good in the world.
And now watch de Boer play Sigthorsson against PSG. Damn those last ten minutes were horrible last night, whats even worse is that Cillessen had to stall for extra time against fucking Heracles.
KidA Seven
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Apparently Pereira stayed with the first team at the Hotel. Looks like LVG has been impressed by him.
What I'd like to see against Malmo:
------------------ Buffon ------------------
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----- Licht Bonucci Chiellini Evra ----
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---------Pogba Marchisio Asa ---------
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------------ Tevez Coman ---------------
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---------------- Llorente ------------------
What I'll get:
------------------------------ Buffon -----------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------- Caceres - Bonucci - Chiellini --------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Lichtsteiner - Pereyra - Marchisio - Pogba - Asamoah --
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------- Tevez - Llorente -----------------------------
Allegri channeling his inner Conte again.
------------------ Buffon ------------------
-----------------------------------------------
----- Licht Bonucci Chiellini Evra ----
-----------------------------------------------
---------Pogba Marchisio Asa ---------
-----------------------------------------------
------------ Tevez Coman ---------------
-----------------------------------------------
---------------- Llorente ------------------
What I'll get:
------------------------------ Buffon -----------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------- Caceres - Bonucci - Chiellini --------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Lichtsteiner - Pereyra - Marchisio - Pogba - Asamoah --
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------- Tevez - Llorente -----------------------------
Allegri channeling his inner Conte again.
Joel Was Right
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Ozil over Cesc is looking like a tragic decision. He then plays him on the wing.
What's the point of it anymore
What's the point of it anymore
KidA Seven
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Especially when you're playing him on the wing when the argument for not needing Cesc was Ozil is going to play behind the striker.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Pics or it never happened
What I'd like to see against Malmo:
------------------ Buffon ------------------
-----------------------------------------------
----- Licht Bonucci Chiellini Evra ----
-----------------------------------------------
---------Pogba Marchisio Asa ---------
-----------------------------------------------
------------ Tevez Coman ---------------
-----------------------------------------------
---------------- Llorente ------------------
What I'll get:
------------------------------ Buffon -----------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------- Caceres - Bonucci - Chiellini --------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Lichtsteiner - Pereyra - Marchisio - Pogba - Asamoah --
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------- Tevez - Llorente -----------------------------
Allegri channeling his inner Conte again.
I don't see Moratta in either scenario.
You suck.
I'm normally a strangely positive Arsenal supporter but agree with this. i still think Cesc would've fit back in perfectly.
On the plus side; I thought Wilshere was a boss.
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