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Football Thread 2014/15 |OT6| Daley Blind Is a Hack Of a Player

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Lightning

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Arse-Bros. Reckon Wenger should start Ospina against Chelsea instead of Szczesny?


Did Madrid winning the CL turn everyone into this hate fest they now get in here? Never used to be like that.
 
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Turok_TTZ

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Atletico has my utmost respect. Truly an elite team.
The roughest, dirtiest, timewasting team full of cunts bar griezmann and jimenez who hustle like you wouldn't believe. I expect them to go far. I would really hope my Real Madrid not face them in cl till we sort out our shit. Juventus never had a chance in hell. worst matchup for them.

I almost feel bad for liverpool. Almost. We're a mess but we'll give Liverpool the drubbing of a lifetime. A loss is not bad thing. it is a good thing. You learn weak spots you haven't noticed before or confirming to exist. You learn what not to do and what to improve on. Though that applies to players, not sure if a manager can live and learn. or rather, I'm not convinced of Brendan Rodgers....

I thought Welbeck was a scrub. but it seems his recent performance should have my assessment of him in need of a check and more scrutiny. I will observe him more. seems moving to arsenal has changed things for him.

Benz finds a way in cl. no big surprise.

Worried about Bale. He needs to relax.
 
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Clegg

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Have we talked about Cheick Tiote? Seems like he's into polygamy allegedly. Got married last month despite already being married with three kids.
 
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dc89

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Rio Ferdinand boarded the bandwagon Paul Scholes had set rolling, after tuning in to hear his old team-mate talking about the empty seats at the Etihad for another fitful Manchester City home performance in the Champions League.

“Fans would rather watch Ramsay’s Kitchen,” Ferdinand tweeted. And in reference to City’s planned ground expansion: “Expanding the stadium for what though?? For who though??”

A crowd 10,000 short of capacity for City’s opening Champions League home game against Roma on Tuesday night created the conditions for United’s old guard to display disdain for the place Sir Alex Ferguson always called the “Temple of Doom”.

Yet Scholes’s inference that European nights have always been different at Old Trafford does not stand up to scrutiny. In the early 1990s, when United had finally taken the title, they were getting crowds of less than 40,000 through for Champions League games: 39,000 for Galatasaray’s arrival in 1993 and 35,000 for Honved. It took time for Europe to catch on.

Domestic competition – the task of dethroning Arsenal and setting about a challenge to Liverpool’s back catalogue of titles – was all that mattered at Old Trafford back then, just as toppling United is City’s obsession now.

Reigning domestic champions City might be, but they know that winning two titles by a hair’s breadth does not make them the dominant force in English football. That’s their supporters’ overriding ambition. This is a team who were playing Wrexham and Macclesfield 16 years ago. No wonder the domestic game still hold so much fascination for the fans. It’s why Reading last year had far more pulling power than Roma this week.

The numbers deconstruct Ferdinand’s cheap shot on Twitter. City command the third highest crowds in the Premier League. They filled the Etihad for all-but one of last season’s home league matches and have a waiting list of 7,500 for the 6,000 extra seats in their new stand, which will take capacity to 55,000. Everyone on the waiting list has paid a £100 deposit.

The social demographic of City’s fans contributed to the number of empty seats, too. It is a relatively poor one, compared with Manchester United and Liverpool. Neither have City followed United and Arsenal down the route of making it compulsory for season-ticket holders to buy European tickets, which would have guaranteed 36,000 sales alone for Roma. Arsenal’s season-ticket price includes the first seven FA Cup or Champions League games. City have no such scheme.

The club’s relationship with Europe is fixed a few years ahead, too. City are targeting a quarter-final appearance in this season’s competition and accept that it could take five years to win it.

No one is implying a need for reinforcements. The club have equipped themselves with a squad which they believe is strong enough to lift the trophy in Rome next June. But there is an acceptance at the top of the business that the potential for luck and freak events in one-off, knock-out stage games mean that a consistent run of semi-final appearances – perhaps three or four of them – is required, for the club to go one step further and win it.

City chief executive Ferran Soriano is acutely aware of this from his time at the helm of Barcelona. The Catalonian side reached the round of 16 twice, the semi-finals once and were victorious finalists once in his five years at the club. The winning year was 2006, when Arsenal’s Jens Lehmann was dismissed after 18 minutes at the Stade de France. Yes, Soriano will tell you that luck cuts both ways in Europe but is always a factor.

Manager Manuel Pellegrini, whose side reached the last 16 in 2013-14, acknowledged the quarter-final target for this season. “If we can fight for the Premier League title and get further in the Champions League, that would be progress,” he said this week, in an interview which also underlined City’s absorption with domestic football. “We won’t focus all we have on the Champions League and see what happens in the Premier League,” he added.

City have endeavoured to manufacture some Etihad atmosphere for Europe in the past, dimming the lights before kick-off, projecting a lunar image across the East Stand and bathing the place in pale light before such games as the Europa League quarter-final against Hamburg in 2009. It was their first year back in continental football and though Mark Hughes’s team lost on aggregate, Scholes would have nothing to be critical about. But the club know that the value of generating an atmosphere would be lost if they tried it every time.

Better performances would help. Tuesday’s was dismal and Vincent Kompany, the captain, acknowledged amid the disappointment of the 1-1 draw that City must now win home and away against CSKA Moscow. “We have to win both of those games. It’s safe to say that,” he observed. City will know tomorrow whether the game in the Russian capital must be played behind closed doors, as a Uefa punishment for the CSKA fans’ violence in Rome.

The group mathematics suggest it could go the way of 2011-12, when City also took a point from their opening two matches, rallied to a 10-point total but were eliminated at the group stage. Where City and Europe are concerned, it’s always more complicated than 140 characters can convey.

City must be patient - Champions League wait

Manchester United:

First Premier League 1993

First Champions League 1999

Chelsea:

First Premier League 2005

First Champions League 2012

Manchester City:

First Premier League 2012

First Champions League ?
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...e-domestic-dominance-over-europe-9768342.html

Rio & Scholes are just embarrassing. I don't think they can really comment on such matters whilst living in their millionaire bubbles.
 
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Lightning

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Plasma said:
I think Szczesny is probably better on corners because of his height so I'd hope he starts over Ospina.
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Not sure I agree with this. I don't think corners are where Chelsea's biggest threat will be, I'm more worried they will get in behind us and if that happens Szczesny's rush of blood could see us with 10 men. Also Szcz was part to blame for the corner that City equalized at the Emirates costing us 2 points when we deserved to win that game.
 
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Turok_TTZ said:
Atletico has my utmost respect. Truly an elite team.
The roughest, dirtiest, timewasting team full of cunts bar griezmann and jimenez who hustle like you wouldn't believe. I expect them to go far. I would really hope my Real Madrid not face them in cl till we sort out our shit. Juventus never had a chance in hell. worst matchup for them.
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Not to diminish Atletico, but if that one stupid ball hadn't gone in yesterday, people would be praising Juve's rock solid defense and smart away performance, even though we did fuck all in attack. Atletico might go all the way to the final, but if I were to judge them from yesterday's game, I'd say they should be worried about the return match. And I rarely say that about anyone playing against us in CL, lol.

Our next two matches with Olympiakos will be decisive.
 
FootballFan

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Zabojnik said:
Not to diminish Atletico, but if that one stupid ball hadn't gone in yesterday, people would be praising Juve's rock solid defense and smart away performance, even though we did fuck all in attack. Atletico might go all the way to the final, but if I were to judge them from yesterday's game, I'd say they should be worried about the return match. And I rarely say that about anyone playing against us in CL, lol.

Our next two matches with Olympiakos will be decisive.
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Afellay will destroy ju.

But about your first point, that's just how it is.
 
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Blablurn said:
The dark haired lesbian in Orange is the new black (the ex gf of the main actress) is kinda hot and kinda gross.
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Would you bla?
 
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L1NETT

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Not really havin a go at city, but dunno why the fact that the fan base is mostly poorer working class folk used as an excuse for poor attendances. It's the same up and down the country bar like two clubs. And Liverpool's fan base is richer? Have you got out at lime street? I like the scousers but I'm not havin that.

Rather than mocking city fans question why Ticket prices have gone up massively despite clubs making god knows how much on these sponsorship and tv deals. That's the issue, not poking fun at a middling sized club who have been artificially grown.
 
Dark Rider

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Lightning said:
Did Madrid winning the CL turn everyone into this hate fest they now get in here? Never used to be like that.
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big club = lots of hate
big club that beat your team = hate intensifies
big club with cl win = hate overload
the club with the most prestigious record with a cl win = hate + jealousy over 9000

hate train for a big club = trolls all aboard the hate train

:(
 
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The best German goalscorers in CL history


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I had no idea Gomez scored so many CL goals for us.

Maybe I don't remember because he never scored in a final.

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Footy fans I think are worse with gamers and their changing opinions lol.

Welbeck put in a good performance last night, very very positive signs. As I've said before, the more and more you find yourself in those situations (one on one keeper) is the more time you have to practice and adjust to the pressure (or it becomes a thing of the norm so the pressure feels even less to an extent). So yeah I'm happy for the goals, however the Henry comparisons are a long way off (your bloody suppose to open your body up to make an angle for the goal) but really happy and proud for him. One thing that has suprised me is how quick Welbeck is, I think in that regard he is very Henry esque because his pace i dont think is that electric from acceleration perspective however once into his stride my jaw literally hit the floor. TV honestly do justice how quick this boy is, I actually used to think Sturridge was quicker than Welbeck but yeah is rrrrrrraaaapppiiddd

While Welbeck will get the plaudits and headlines, For me the real star last night was Sanchez, flip me this boy can play ball, like between him and Di Maria are the best signings I've seen this season. He really does add another level of dynamism to our game.
 
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I continue to be amazed at how Wenger, his coaches and some Arsenal fans are 'surprised' by how quick he really is.

I'd have thought the guy's been pretty much one of the quickest players in the world over 60 metres for the last 2 years.
 
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GorillaJu

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Dark Rider said:
big club = lots of hate
big club that beat your team = hate intensifies
big club with cl win = hate overload
the club with the most prestigious record with a cl win = hate + jealousy over 9000

hate train for a big club = trolls all aboard the hate train

:(
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It's about arrogance, hubris, and annoying fans.

There's no jealousy. Anyone jealous can just up and say "I support Real Madrid" like all the other glory hunters.
 
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Baconsaurus Rex

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LabouredSubterfuge said:
I continue to be amazed at how Wenger, his coaches and some Arsenal fans are 'surprised' by how quick he really is.

I'd have thought the guy's been pretty much one of the quickest players in the world over 60 metres for the last 2 years.
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He's no Bellerin though.

But it's nice having him up front, especially after the red card. We now actually have the possibility to counter.
 
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3Sixty

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Anyone know what time the England squad is announced? Wanna see my boy Nate ignored again.

Also Italia gaf and Portugueezer gaf your squads? My boys Pelle and Fonte
 
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jtb

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LabouredSubterfuge said:
I continue to be amazed at how Wenger, his coaches and some Arsenal fans are 'surprised' by how quick he really is.

I'd have thought the guy's been pretty much one of the quickest players in the world over 60 metres for the last 2 years.
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you have to understand, we've been watching Giroud play up front for two years. so any player, let alone Welbeck, with even a hint of pace would surprise us with how quick they are.
 
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Shanks D Zoro

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LabouredSubterfuge said:
Yes he would be one too (again I stress over 60m).

Would add:

Walcott (possibly pre knee reconstruction though)
Navas
Bale
Lennon

I think the likes of Robben, Ronaldo and Valencia are probably now past the point of being comparable over that distance.
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Didn't Robben record the fastest speed ever at the world cup?
 
Dark Rider

Dark Rider

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OddMorsel said:
It's about arrogance, hubris, and annoying fans.
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That is for sure in the mix that leads to hate

OddMorsel said:
There's no jealousy. Anyone jealous can just up and say "I support Real Madrid" like all the other glory hunters.
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Some take pride specifically that they are not glory hunters so they can't switch
that might be an option for the new comers to the sport but a lot of people been in it since childhood and a known certain team fan :p
 
LabouredSubterfuge

LabouredSubterfuge

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Shanks D Zoro said:
Didn't Robben record the fastest speed ever at the world cup?
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Top speed of 37km/h yes.

But that was (I think) over say 40ish metres. I say this from an entirely unempirical point of view that could well be incorrect but I would have someone like Welbeck to beat him over 60m.

I'd actually happily watch sprint races between football players. Would be pretty interesting.
 
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