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Football Thread 2014/15 |OT7| daily blind is a renegade of funk

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Salvadora

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we're not even the good kind of shit

we're nothing

no creativity

no defence

no fitness

i can't even listen to the tuesday club anymore

it's heartbreaking
 
Man Utd are spending money they've earned over the last 26 or so years with exceptional financial management. Chelsea's model is made possible by the money they were essentially given by Abramovich over the first 5 years of his reign, and have continued to be given (along with higher sponsorship deals and merchandise, made possible by, again, that original Abramovich bankrolling) aside from a spell or two where they haven't had to spend as the original spend had already left their squad pretty much complete.

Not disputing the original origins of said cash. I just think Chelsea have a better model right now as it stands. Utd won't sell their young players on for massive profits. They cannot rely on money from transfers. Their investment in recent years has been very poor.

I speak as a fan of a club who have always had fuck all squared or bad luck (West Ham) when it comes to owners/investment.

I would totally be in favour of a spending cap per year on players. Would make the league more dynamic and we'd see a lot more youth come through. We used to have a brilliant academy but we see very little of it these days. :(
 

bud

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salva, help me understand the lack of punctuation and capital letters in some of your posts.

is it because of arsenal?

please be okay.
 

kharma45

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Not disputing the original origins of said cash. I just think Chelsea have a better model right now as it stands. Utd won't sell their young players on for massive profits. They cannot rely on money from transfers. Their investment in recent years has been very poor.

I speak as a fan of a club who have always had fuck all squared or bad luck (West Ham) when it comes to owners/investment.

I would totally be in favour of a spending cap per year on players. Would make the league more dynamic and we'd see a lot more youth come through. We used to have a brilliant academy but we see very little of it these days. :(

We don't need to rely on those things when we've the levels of income we do from sponsorship.

United's model has worked well. Commercialise the fuck out of the club.
 

Blablurn

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Not disputing the original origins of said cash. I just think Chelsea have a better model right now as it stands. Utd won't sell their young players on for massive profits. They cannot rely on money from transfers. Their investment in recent years has been very poor.

I speak as a fan of a club who have always had fuck all squared or bad luck (West Ham) when it comes to owners/investment.

I would totally be in favour of a spending cap per year on players. Would make the league more dynamic and we'd see a lot more youth come through. We used to have a brilliant academy but we see very little of it these days. :(

Man Utd's model is basically hording as much money as possible from backroom deals, sponsorship, merchandising, basically anything exploiting their popularity. They don't intend to spend £200m every summer, but it was necessary. Their squad setup was a mess at the end of last season, and still is in many ways. The owners would rather not have to spend such amounts at all since for them, they want profits, they're not in it for the lols.

But they had to spend that money to make money in the future, otherwise they were risking spending years out of the CL as we did, which could lead to a financial nosedive.
 
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Arsenal fans. The season is only about a quarter in. Arsenal has a solid squad. Im positive you wont finish in 8th. I dont understand why they didnt bring back Fabregas and Vela back. Would have been a strong and deep team.
 

Salvadora

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salva, help me understand the lack of punctuation and capital letters in some of your posts.

is it because of arsenal?

please be okay.
i'm just tired bud

watching the same thing happen again and again and again

time is a flat circle

i'm free all the time so i can ruminate on the meaning of life
 
We don't need to rely on those things when we've the levels of income we do from sponsorship.

United's model has worked well. Commercialise the fuck out of the club.

Chelsea and City will only continue to get better at that too. Chelsea in particular will gradually commercialise like Utd did and still have their profit for players model.

Utd are £500m-£700m in debt and will still go on to spend ~£200 million on transfers this season. They do have exceptional commercialisation.

I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea buy an MLS franchise like City.

Utd will find it hard to be successful in future to keep as high of a profile. City and Chelsea will continue to be big players. Back in the day it was Arsenal Vs Utd.
 

Salvadora

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how did it go with the carpet? did they put it down right?
i'm not experienced carpet layer so there was a bit of confusion

thought i'd accidently agreed to only get 3/4 of the room carpeted in order to save £50 but 2 guys in Liverpool shirts turned up and got it done

i might buy a chest of drawers or bed this week

the world is my oyster
 

kharma45

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Chelsea and City will only continue to get better at that too. Chelsea in particular will gradually commercialise like Utd did and still have their profit for players model.

Utd are £500m-£700m in debt and will still go on to spend ~£200 million on transfers this season. They do have exceptional commercialisation.

I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea buy an MLS franchise like City.

Utd will find it hard to be successful in future to keep as high of a profile. City and Chelsea will continue to be big players. Back in the day it was Arsenal Vs Utd.

United's debt isn't anywhere near close to that. Net debt is down to £275.4m with repayments of £25m p/a.

All the money from the recent share sales went to transfers. Net transfer spend for 2014/15 is £90m.
 

Slizz

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Official tampon sponsor, condom sponsor and lube sponsor should be enough to get us out of debt, especially when in the CL.
 
United's debt isn't anywhere near close to that. Net debt is down to £275.4m with repayments of £27.7m p/a.

All the money from the recent share sales went to transfers.

Apologies if my information was incorrect. I'd just read a couple of articles from August this year that had quoted those figures.
 

kharma45

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How did they manage to do that in less than a year? In January it was definitely hundreds of millions more. (The overall debt)

Glazers actually made moves to pay it off.

I recommend reading this http://andersred.blogspot.co.uk/ and going back through Andy's tweets. He doesn't have loads so it's not too hard to fly back through them and search for the words you're after like debt etc. https://twitter.com/andersred

His feelings on the debt

Over the next three to five years the club should generate enough cash to pay the remaining sum off. It is tax efficient to keep some debt, and future dividends may take priority over further repayment.
 
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