You're right.
Nobody cared about the Bundesliga in the 00s. But then the rise of Bayern happened <3
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Football Thread 2014/15 |OT7| daily blind is a renegade of funk
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You're right.
Nobody cared about the Bundesliga in the 00s. But then the rise of Bayern happened <3
:lol Cristina shouldn't be in any GOAT lists
Real Ronaldo, of course. And obviously Carlo will play him wide for Ibra's sake.
That's the theory but we have other things that comes first. Our league provider is in contract with TV stations and the rules simply doesn't allow clubs to have commercial owners or a single body to have more than 50% of shares to invest heavily into a club. And Germany is basically Bayern. If Bayern decides to promote themselves, only a tiny part of the revenue from the collective promotion would be left for the other clubs. Dortmund and Schalke might be better of doind the same as Bayern but for every other club it's basically ruin. Bundesliga gets a lot of money through the crowd and tickets and and fees from the club members, as well as sponsoring. Bayern for example sold 9% of their stock to Audi, Telekom, Allianz and adidas worth around 450 million EUR and only because of that we were able to pay back the debt of Allianz Arena and keep a positive balance so far. The system in Germany is basically based on brand power. The bigger the brand the more money you get out of sponsoring. The TV money is so little that it only let's you pay all your outgoings.
Vivalaraza
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The TV money argument is pretty poor that is for sure.
Bayern had a higher turnover than United did last season.
This notion they can't compete with the other European clubs because they get pennies in TV revenue is misleading. They are filthy rich.
Crazy shit. If I was the face and money maker for the Bundesliga, I'd be trying at all costs to improve the domestic league. There is no fucking way you are winning multiple CL's in a row or even 3 in 5yrs in this day an age. Having the domestic league more appealing helps. But then again they are looking out solely for themselves, its not their responsibility to make the league more profitable.
please take a look at their shirt sales
who the fuck even cares about Bayern outside
I'm calling Platini.
Amir0x is banned. It's obviously his alt.
Vivalaraza
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Even if they wanted to - what could they really do?
Just not buy Dortmund's players? Maybe...but those players would likely still go elsewhere. I mean, I can't say for sure but in the case of Lewandowski...do we really think he was either going to Bayern or going nowhere? Kagawa for instance left as possibly their best player to come to United. Sahin went to Madrid.
These players are leaving Dortmund for money. That is the main factor IMO (aswell as the draw of the historic clubs..but money talks at the end of the day). Of course when they make that decision a club like Bayern will always be in the picture and be an option.
The real problem for the Bundesliga, and I'm speaking from a position of not too much knowledge about it, is that their just aren't enough strong clubs within the league structurally or historically. In England for instance, even discounting the oil clubs, United/Liv/Arsenal have the potential to be clubs that can compete and fend one another off. That type of environment just doesn't seem to exist there.
What they need is a Sheikh.
Cristiano Ronaldo is a better player than Brazilian Ronaldo.
Forget being banned. He should go to some sort of rehab.
you're too young to die Zazo
Zaz
Zazo: "Do I already feel like a Bianconero? It would be a dream, Juventus is the best club that I could play for"
jokes
The Bundesliga hat great clubs in the 70s and 80s. Gladbach, Hamburg for example. But there was sooooo much missmanagement. Hamburg should be one of Europes top clubs with its infrastructure. Yet they are about to get relegated.
It's crazy.
Sheikhs are forbidden btw
This is a great post actually and it nails the problem. Bundesliga has a marketing problem and sooner or later DFL will realize that a Bayern monopoly will hurt the league and ditch the 50+1 rule so that investors could join. Our very conservative approach stopped our clubs from being in huge dept or broken but 16 out of our 18 clubs simply can't compete with most of EPL and La Liga.
Bayern and BVB being famous worldwide just means I'll watch 2 matches per year.
It's the same as La Liga, will you watch Real Madrid Elche? Chances are you'll tune in for RM vs AM vs Barca, MAYBE Sevilla.
Premier League has a shitton of interesting matches.
Serie A's only interesting match is Roma Juventus, and just for the following fallout.
Been wondering for two weeks.
Frustrated_me
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Gutted by the Bale news, didn't even know he was injured. Bale had always performed well against Barca. Thankfully Isco is in good for, let's see what he brings 
In other news, Ronaldo keeps breaking records - first player to score 15 goals in the first eight games of La Liga. Also worth mentioning that he only played in 7 of those 8 (missed the Sociedad match) games.
This isn't even a debate anymore.
In other news, Ronaldo keeps breaking records - first player to score 15 goals in the first eight games of La Liga. Also worth mentioning that he only played in 7 of those 8 (missed the Sociedad match) games.
This isn't even a debate anymore.
Absolutely true.
The_Hitcher89
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'He had the energy yesterday, therefore he had it 5 days ago.'
What a gargantuan pile of shite. Think before you post pls.
No regrets.
Also aren't we in the same time zone? Are you having tortellini for merenda?
Zaza to score 2 OG against Roma
Just fuck off and get ready to be flagged as the one who started our downfall to 7th place.
Vivalaraza
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Ronaldo or Ronaldo.
Dunno.
Ronaldo at his best was insanely good. But that wasn't for very long.
Ronaldo has been really really good for a really really long time.
Dunno.
Ronaldo at his best was insanely good. But that wasn't for very long.
Ronaldo has been really really good for a really really long time.
Sure, but it's wasn't that long ago that Serie A had 'the seven sisters'. Juve, Milan, Inter and to lesser extent Roma, Napoli, Lazio and Fiorentina all have the history and the fans. Problem is there is no money in Italy at the moment and the management and planning is basically non-exsistent. There's no political will to turn things around, which isn't surprising, since Italy as a nation is facing exactly the same problems.
Sheikhs pls.
I saw a blonde kid from Austria, about 6 years old, wearing a Lewa shirt.
He looked like a cunt.
Vivalaraza
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we'll fucking send him to the Russian league to rot with Criscito if this happens
Yes. I've barely eaten today, been so busy. I can't wait any longer. I NEED TO CIBARE MIOSELF, PLS CAPISCI.
Lol Criscito... I remember when he was basically in Bayern when Heynckes said no and gave Alaba the chance.
we have the best midfielders and defender
oh and Berardi <3
you can keep the rest.
please, just ONE winger ;_; that's all we need
Frustrated_me
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Bale & Modric out. Just like that the two crucial games are tougher for us.
You made Ronaldo cry.
Yeah, before Calciopoli maybe.
Then they buried us.
Then we came back.
Then we struggled.
Then we slayed.
Since calciopoli, Serie A has been a two teams scenario.
Inter vs Roma, Inter vs. Juve, Inter vs. Roma, Milan vs. Inter.
Look at the past 3 years, other teams took turns to try and get our crown.
First Milan, then Napoli, then Roma.
Now Roma is full of cunts and they didn't leave this year's spot to Inter or Fiorentina.
Shit league.
Who to believe? Rummenigge or Arda?
The_Hitcher89
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Sturridge alone balances that out
Arda never played against Roma so both of them are right
Milchmonster
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Sure, Götze and Lewandowski would have left sooner or later. But would Götze have left for Madrid/Barca/whatever last year? I don't think so. The same with Reus, I don't see him leaving for some top club abroad either next year. They would have probably stayed for another year or two, which would have helped us a lot.
I'm not sure about Sheikhs, really. Who would really be interested in the German league? And look at the German clubs, who would be a possible choice? I don't see Watzke selling us off, HSV is already kinda owned by Kühne so that might be a hassle, Leverkusen belongs to Bayer. And the other clubs are just non-interesting for a foreign investor. Nobody is gonna invest crazy money in fucking Hannover 96. The only thing I could see happening is Schlacke considering they already sold their soul to Russia. And that case, I really don't wanna see happening.
Get ready for Red Bull Leipzig
You just wait for Monster Energy Dortmund.
Would Madrid/Barca/whatever announce signing him before your CL final? I don't think so
Bale & Modric out. Just like that the two crucial games are tougher for us.
Possibly Modric as well??
Ushojax amcry
As well as Serie A? Totti, pls.
Milchmonster
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Marca would :lol
I don't think they'll be relevant in the next few year. The Bundesliga is no Mickey Mouse league like the Austrian one and they won't be able to have their farming teams in the second and third division. VW also has a shitload of money but it's just too expensive to be a top team in the short run.
Hm. Guess you're right.
Remember when Hoffenheim was the next big thing in 2008 lol
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