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Mahmoud Dahoud rejected a new contract from Monchengladbach, hopefully that forces them to sell him or else he'll be much cheaper next year.
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Football Thread 2015/16 & Off-season |OT2| 5000-1
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brokenbeans
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Giggs has gone.
CecilRousso
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Don't actually know that much about Tomkins, other then that I recognize his name and face. What are we getting if we sign him?
Barcelona take salary spending to a new level
The full article is behind a paywall.
The future isn't looking so bright for the big two Spanish clubs at the moment; expensive stadium redevelopments, the enormous growth of the Premier League and now the loss of preferential treatment by local government.
Phantast2k
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Cheaper, sure, but not free (contract till 2018). Now that they lost Xhaka Liverpool would need to spend more than 40m to get him.
brokenbeans
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£26.3m for a player of his calibre sounds like a good bit of business to me.
His previous fee was £23.5m
Heebie Jeebies
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Dortmund didn't want him to go on a free and Utd didn't want competition to sign a free player so paid a premium price now. Seems reasonable all round to me.
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Yeah I know his contract runs out in 2018. But Liverpool won't have to pay 40 million for him if he refuses to sign a new contract. If they don't tie him down either they will have to sell him for a lot less next season or lose him for free in 2018.
You should have seen his 3 years at Dortmund though.
2 years way below team average and one phenomenal half season, with a decent other half. If he keeps his current form he will be great. Take also note that like Reus he tends to completely disapear in important matches and even rejected to shoot a penalty in the cup final against Bayern. His mentality is even worse than Özil's.
42M is around £35M
Phantast2k
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Keep your Grütze, elsk.
Kardashyan hasn't played very well prior to 15/16 & Tuchel. He's had some exceptional games under Klopp, but for the most part he's been average at best. He's smart, but lacks willpower (hides in big games) and appears to be mentally weak (needs a functioning environment). Mou is not really known to treat his players well and he'll be under a lot of scrutiny at Utd. At the same time, Klopp's & Mou's styles are quite similar.
So when taking all of that into account and the fact that he's had one year left on his contract, the price may be inflated and there's no guarantee he'll do well at Utd. - at least not straight away.
Kardashyan hasn't played very well prior to 15/16 & Tuchel. He's had some exceptional games under Klopp, but for the most part he's been average at best. He's smart, but lacks willpower (hides in big games) and appears to be mentally weak (needs a functioning environment). Mou is not really known to treat his players well and he'll be under a lot of scrutiny at Utd. At the same time, Klopp's & Mou's styles are quite similar.
So when taking all of that into account and the fact that he's had one year left on his contract, the price may be inflated and there's no guarantee he'll do well at Utd. - at least not straight away.
They'll happily keep him around for a year and will most likely still be able to sell him for 30m+ in 2017 after he advertised himself some more in CL.
Phantast2k
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woah, End of an era as United legend Giggs quits club - Yahoo Sports
Mou gives zero fucks.
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Huh, isn't that a big news for Utd. supporters?
Mou gives zero fucks.
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Huh, isn't that a big news for Utd. supporters?
toythatkills
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It's probably sad, but it would have been completely fucking insane to give him the job of manager and he doesn't seem to have the sense to see that.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Same reason Bayern fans do it with Pep
None of us wish him the worst. Pep did a lot for the club, whether some fans like it or not.
GoldenCrow
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Just imitating Liverpool.
Sgtpepper89
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The biggest question of this transfer window. Will Zlatan drive a Volvo or Chevrolet?
okay...
Beside one or two success fans anyone saw what he did with Bayern and there are no hard feelings.
Se7enSword
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Heebie Jeebies
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He should've gone a lot sooner, honestly.
Milchmonster
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For our record signing, he underperformed overall. Also lacked balls to help us win something and pretty much forced his way out.
I don't wish him something bad, I'm just indifferent. He didn't do much for us that will be remembered in the long term. He will be completely forgotten in 10 years if we sign a more expensive player and he's no longer the record signing.
That said, if I had to take a bet right now, I'd put my money on him rather failing at United. Just doesn't seem like the type of player who'd get out of a weak phase under Mou at such a big club, unless Tuchel fixed his head.
Sorry spidye, I just meant fans here in Munich.
This has huge entertainment potential. They could end up anywhere in the table.
brokenbeans
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I don't want him to leave he's doing really well as a CM.
Milchmonster
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There mustn't need to be so much change to our first team as all these transfers imply, though.
Bürki
Piszczek-Sokratis-Bender-Schmelzer
Castro-Weigl-Kagawa
X-Auba-Reus
X being reserved for Micky's replacement who'll probably be Schürrle or Götze (pls no, I want neither).
For example is a team that did well last season already. And that's important. We don't need any of the new signings to do well immediately. If one does a Weigl and breaks into the first team at the start, that's great. If not, we have plenty of talented backup players. A top 4 finish in the Bundesliga is a must for us and I'm fairly confident we'll make it.
Bürki
Piszczek-Sokratis-Bender-Schmelzer
Castro-Weigl-Kagawa
X-Auba-Reus
X being reserved for Micky's replacement who'll probably be Schürrle or Götze (pls no, I want neither).
For example is a team that did well last season already. And that's important. We don't need any of the new signings to do well immediately. If one does a Weigl and breaks into the first team at the start, that's great. If not, we have plenty of talented backup players. A top 4 finish in the Bundesliga is a must for us and I'm fairly confident we'll make it.
do u really think your new and ambitious youngsters will be happy to start on the bench?
the time of castro, kagawa and reus is over
Milchmonster
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Probably not happy but I doubt anyone was promised an instant starting spot. And none is a big enough signing that I'd expect to start.
Bartra will compete with Bender and Sokratis, Guerreiro with Schmelzer. Merino and Rode with Castro, Weigl and Kagawa, Dembele with Pulisic, Passlack and Micky's replacement. Mor with Ramos.
Who knows who'll play. I'm just saying we don't need to completely change our starting eleven.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Arteta joining City as a coach, hope he learns a lot and returns to Arsenal some day
EDIT:
Oh, and http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20160702/arsenal-agree-deal-for-japan-forward
Wenger: "I've signed a striker guys, see!"
EDIT:
Oh, and http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20160702/arsenal-agree-deal-for-japan-forward
Wenger: "I've signed a striker guys, see!"
I resent this allegation that fans who have a different oppinion on this subject are simply success fans. that's just too simple for my liking
and in my oppinion many, many Bayern fans had to be starting as "success" fans. Unless you live in munich or bavaria why should you feel an affilation to this club?
as a 12 year old boy, I fell in love with this club because of the success it had and the players who played. Now I'm a fan of this club for 16 years.
brokenbeans
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Pogba is destined for Real Madrid right?
Kingpin Rogers
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Anyone know much about Asano? Sounds like he's not part of the first team plan just yet so I'm guessing he'll be going out on loan for a while. Or maybe act as the third option for striker.
That's not a sure call at all at the moment.
Our two stars back training at Melwood.
legit thought that was Balotelli for a second there
You can crtisise anything. But Pep brought us 3 Bundesliga wins in a row with an unprecedented domination, made us tactically versatile, did a huge part of the transition inside the team, 2 DFB Cups and 3 CL semis where he only failed against Real due to wrong tactics. Barca was better and we had all our wingers injured. Atletico was because of missed chances. On that level small margins decide and judging him by that irrational expectations of 3 CL wins in a row is beyond daft. Not everything was good, medical staff, media work for example but his job and success are undisputeable. That is why I respect all the Fraudiola opinions but cannot take them serious when I see his work and what the club achieved through him and where we are now.
And the local factor is there. Parts of our fanbase and many media outlets here in Munich do nothing but discredit him, because they think he sold the Mia San Mia mentality or simply do not understand his ideas. I remember very well the last 25 years at Bayern and while we had a decent international phase around 2000, we never belonged to the likes of Ajax, Juve or Milan. Today we are top 3 for years. We should not forget where we came from and I admire our board for having the balls to get Pep and play an attacking football I have never seen before in Munich.
He will stay at Juve unless Pérez can somehow prevent Ronaldo from crying when he buys pogba for 150m. Otherwise City and PSG can pay more than Real.
Arteta joining the City staff under Pep.
you sir are looking at a future ballon d'or winner
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