A Serious Man
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Football Thread 2016/17 & Offseason |OT2| Wenger In Fam! Wenger Out Blud!
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Hahaha, they deleted it.
It's nice to see United being so inclusive with the men with well defined belly. It almost makes but one for myself.
McMoneyman
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But I'm sure Wayne Rooney have marketed their shirts for over a decade ; - )
Kurt Angle
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real men
real bodies
cartoon_soldier
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Zaltan and Rooney getting off our salary rolls is a lot of savings. Damn.
If the rumours are to be believed Everton would be paying half of Rooney's (or less!)
Lol. Higuain literally just break record in Juventus for scoring more goals than Trezequet in a single season which is a long long record for Juventus.
And Serie A is famous for many team being more adept defensively. To rate him lower than Lukaku which had proven nothing on top thing is simply laughable.
Don't you know the English league is the greatest in the world that's why every year in the champions league... Oh wait
Hey, I am very critical of Lukaku myself. In terms of Technique, Skills and overall Package, he is not the best striker in the world.
But for his goal scoring ability in the Premier League, I would definitely take Lukaku over Higuan simply because of his young age, Premier League experience, cheaper price and consitency
McMoneyman
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Sky Sports on Twitter:
BREAKING: Guangzhou Evergrande reject £22m bid from @FCBarcelona for @paulinhop8. #SSNHQ
Paulinho the former Tottenham player.
BREAKING: Guangzhou Evergrande reject £22m bid from @FCBarcelona for @paulinhop8. #SSNHQ
Paulinho the former Tottenham player.
In Premier League probably. But to put Lukaku better than all those other proven striker is just crazy for me.
Yeah, that would be a better way of describing it.
£75 for a Premier League striker who has a habit of scoring a goal is a bargain.
very happy if we get lukaku over morata. doesn't make up for being rejected by griezemann but positive nonetheless.
barca's transfers can be so baffling
barca's transfers can be so baffling
If Morata wants out (which I very much think he wants, for playing minutes) then there's no doubt he will be sold. We never keep our players if they want out cause it creates a bad atmosphere and pressure on the coach . And I am pretty sure both Zidane and Perez wanna give a try and see if they can sign Mbappe. I personally would rather want Morata here, but yeah, I can definitely see something like this happening.
RocknRola
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cartoon_soldier
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I dont' think anything at 75 million can in any way or shape classify as a "bargain"
Strikers have a supply and demand problem right now.
RocknRola
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75 million. That's an insane amount of cash to pay for a player. It's another Pogba situation, in short, where Premier League money makes things x10 more expensive
RM, for winning this last CL, made about 15 million more than that. Think about it. Not a bargain at all IMO.
I dont' think anything at 75 million can in any way or shape classify as a "bargain"
It's not bad. I'have seen worse
Edit. It's 75 £ or Euro?I still remember when Ronaldo was signed by Inter in 97 for 48 MLD Lire ( 25 ML euro). Now it's almost " nothing ".
RocknRola
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It's not bad. I'have seen worse
I still remember when Ronaldo was signed by Inter in 97 for 48 MLD Lire ( 25 ML euro). Now it's almost " nothing ".
I mean, if he indeed keeps on his path and improves his number giving titles to ManU/Chelsea then it'll be a bargain, just like Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo and a couple more ended up being a "bargain" for RM; just like Suarez, Neymar and others were a bargain for Barça; etc, etc.
75 million. That's an insane amount of cash to pay for a player. It's another Pogba situation, in short, where Premier League money makes things x10 more expensive
RM, for winning this last CL, made about 15 million more than that. Think about it. Not a bargain at all IMO.
£75m is about 6.5 televised PL games or one year of Adidas sponsorship money. That's not counting prize money from the PL or CL or all the other crap. It's really not that big a deal for United.
Not sure if he's right for United, but he's proven to score goals in the PL in teams that make a lot less chances than he'd get at either United of Chelsea. He's at very nearly 1 in 2 while playing for West Brom and Everton in the PL with similar in the other cups.
Not sure why he'd go to Mou again, but it might be to prove a point and make bank doing it.
I don't think Lukaku is overrated, he's a very good player in a team that doesn't meet his quality, he has a few off matches but that happens to good players at clubs outside the Top 5, and the true test of his abilities will be when he's playing in a team with world class players. He's definitely better than Morata.
Mase Gumble
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Lukakus big problem for me is that he's either really good and looks almost unplayable or really really fucking shit and little to nothing in between. To be far he was really good last season for the most part. His form falling off a cliff at the end of the season before last is why no one was really in for him last summer.
Lukaku has scored a shit load of goals in a genuinely competitive league. It's not that much of a reach.
Lewandowski scores at a much better rate, and also does it in the CL too. Lukaku isn't better than him, although it is definitely arguable that he has the potential to eventually be better
Lol. If we are comparing it by that way, i guess Belotti should be better than Higuain now lol as he create chance alone and stays in small team.
Things dont work like that lol.
Exterminieren
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Lmfao... I don't even know where to start with that kinda logic. Yeah Lukakau is the best striker
I am always confused with this EPL hype lol. They always act like all EPL team is competitive when they have team like Sunderland on EPL. Hell, more than half the team on the table is nothing to brag at all. And that suddenly makes an EPL proven striker much better compared to all other league striker?
This is amazing. It's like Trump explaining why German cars shouldn't be bought by Americans. A moment of genius.
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Ali
ReplacementPelican
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I think the point the poster is making is that Lukaku is proven in the league in which he's been bought.
Also, yeah, the EPL does have some worse teams but it also doesn't have two/three teams - at best - who walk every competition or will struggle to lose every season. English winners finish - on average - with fewer overall points than their French, German and Spanish counterparts (and the German league is far less games.
Here's also the average gap between 1st and 2nd:
EPL: 6.2 points
Ligue 1: 12.6
Bundesliga: 14.4 (and fewer games)
Serie A: 11.2
The PL also has the smallest gap between 1st and 3rd and 1st and 6th.
I know that people get upset when people even remotely imply the EPL is more competitive but think about it from our perspective, where we don't even need to ask who has won Serie A, Ligue 1, Bundesliga and La Liga, people just take it from there and chat shit. Yeah, it doesn't account for the race between 2nd to 6th but even then the PL, on average, is more competitive.
I know people feel its disrespectful to their league but all I ever really see in response is either scoffing and a serious lack of reason or statistics. Its not that I doubt they exist, its that I don't really see people come back with them.
Just to note, I don't agree with the whole 'only play five real games' sentiment because that's just not true.
Lukaku club goals before age of 23 vs selected others
Ronaldo – 194
Raul – 145
Lionel Messi – 127
Sergio Aguero – 124
*Romelu Lukaku (with two months remaining) – 119*
Michael Owen – 111
Cristiano Ronaldo – 97
Fernando Torres – 87
Wayne Rooney – 94
Luis Suarez – 77
David Villa – 70
Zlatan Ibrahimovic – 69
Alan Shearer – 65
Thierry Henry – 57
Lukaku goal record vs European strikers since 2012/13
Cristiano Ronaldo ( 31) – 207 (192 games)
Lionel Messi (28) – 195 (189)
Zlatan Ibrahimovic (34) – 137 (173)
Robert Lewandowski (27) – 133 (183)
Luis Suarez (29) – 128 (165)
Neymar (24) (since August 2012) – 104 (163)
Sergio Aguero (27) – 96 (143)
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (26) – 95 (176)
Karim Benzema (28) – 91 (173)
Gareth Bale (26) – 79 (155)
Romelu Lukaku (22) – 78 (155)
Olivier Giroud (29) – 78 (176)
Carlos Tevez (32) – 76 (159)
Wayne Rooney (30) – 63 (146)
These statistics are from March last year.
Consider that he is has been playing for clubs that finished in positions of 8th, 5th, 11th and 12th in the past few seasons.
Source
Ronaldo – 194
Raul – 145
Lionel Messi – 127
Sergio Aguero – 124
*Romelu Lukaku (with two months remaining) – 119*
Michael Owen – 111
Cristiano Ronaldo – 97
Fernando Torres – 87
Wayne Rooney – 94
Luis Suarez – 77
David Villa – 70
Zlatan Ibrahimovic – 69
Alan Shearer – 65
Thierry Henry – 57
Lukaku goal record vs European strikers since 2012/13
Cristiano Ronaldo ( 31) – 207 (192 games)
Lionel Messi (28) – 195 (189)
Zlatan Ibrahimovic (34) – 137 (173)
Robert Lewandowski (27) – 133 (183)
Luis Suarez (29) – 128 (165)
Neymar (24) (since August 2012) – 104 (163)
Sergio Aguero (27) – 96 (143)
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (26) – 95 (176)
Karim Benzema (28) – 91 (173)
Gareth Bale (26) – 79 (155)
Romelu Lukaku (22) – 78 (155)
Olivier Giroud (29) – 78 (176)
Carlos Tevez (32) – 76 (159)
Wayne Rooney (30) – 63 (146)
These statistics are from March last year.
Consider that he is has been playing for clubs that finished in positions of 8th, 5th, 11th and 12th in the past few seasons.
Source
evanswolves
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https://twitter.com/TimNash_1/status/883249336032874496
I understand @Wolves have completed the signing of Ruben Neves for what will be a @SkyBetChamp record fee of between £16m-£17m.
I understand @Wolves have completed the signing of Ruben Neves for what will be a @SkyBetChamp record fee of between £16m-£17m.
You're looking at it wrong - Lewandowski plays for Bayern and gets the numbers he does because hes a very good player.
Lewandowski is the first choice striker for a team who's minimum expectation every year is to make the CL semi finals. He also has 40 goals in 61 games in the CL. There is a reason why he is playing for a team as good as Bayern are.
The entire first team of Athletic Club (except Iñaki Williams since he's on vacation from U21, and Mikel Rico since he was already bald) has shaved in support of their teammate Yeray, who is ungoing cancer treatment.
https://twitter.com/Athletic_en/status/883279992356052992
https://twitter.com/Athletic_en/status/883279992356052992
Guileless
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As a percentage of turnover, it's proportional to what high-profile transfers in the English top flight cost 25 years ago. Television revenue is just so much higher now.