Dortmund would say no.
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Football Thread 2016/17 |OT| Mou Money Mo Pogba
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Dortmund would say no.
Randy Lanzarote
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Cardiff City sack Trollope.
Time for Giggs to come home
Time for Giggs to come home
never gonna happen
Im trying to get into football as it seems that watching games locally isnt as hard as I thought it would be. In terms of the EPL(and I guess this extends to other leagues as well), other than Champions league what events are the most important for a club to win? Premier League champions, FA Cup champions, or EFL Cup champions?
Thanks. Sucks that there isnt a catch all solution.
Thanks. Sucks that there isnt a catch all solution.
Bayern and it's centre backs.
Premier League >>>>>>> FA Cup >>>>>>>> EFL Cup
The perceived importance of the knockout cups has really dropped in recent years, but the league has always been the number 1 anyway.
It really depends on the club.
Teams like City who've won the league more recently would want to progress and be able to compete in both the Champions League and title race simultaneously. Chelsea are an example of a club who had won the league several times but had never won the Champions League until 2012 where despite a poor league finish (5th), an inexperienced manager and aging squad they managed to finagle their way to the Final and beat Bayern Munich IN Munich to win their first Champions League. Whereas a club like Man Utd who've fallen out of the title contention in recent years want to make a serious attempt at winning the league title. You also have a club like Arsenal who haven't won the Champions League and haven't won the league recently either, so you get the feeling Wenger wants to win either of those to go out on a high. There's also clubs like Liverpool, Everton and Spurs who have a history of winning the top division but haven't done it for over 20 years and so there's a fanbase that remember those successes and want to see them repeated.
Mid-table sides want to compete for top 7 and top 4 places and the FA Cup and League Cup represent a shortcut into the Europa League with the FA Cup having a lot more prestige and history associated with it; as a West Ham fan, I'd love to see my club win the FA Cup but I realise that finishing in the Top 4 is far more financially rewarding than winning a domestic cup. Although, most English clubs don't take the EL seriously unless they can half-arse their way through the group stage easily and qualifying via the FA Cup means the competitive season starting in July which can disrupt preparation for the season ahead.
Thanks for the explanation.
Im gonna mainly focus on watching EPL (Chelsea fan) and maybe Bundesliga from time to time.
MoodyFog
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Condolences
Sounds like you could use Phil Jones. He would suck up all that bad energy and incur triple the the injuries to save Badstuber and Martinez.
What if we, hear me out, played Müller as a centre back?
Ignore them. Welcome to the fold!
Reports that Bayern are considering not permanently signing Coman? Seems unlikely although a player like Coman prospers better in Guardiola's system, see: Raheem Sterling. If they get him permanently, it'll be an investment of 28m/£24.6m and a Prem team will easily drop £35m+ on him based on hype.
so bayern went from definitely signing him last month to might return to juventus....
bullshit story is bullshit, m8
Just wondering here. Is there a reason why the big leagues like EPL, Bundesliga, La Liga, etc. are not as competitive as other leagues like the NFL, NBA, NHL, etc. Especially for the non-EPL leagues, it seems that for the most part there's only 2 competitive teams and everyone else is just fighting for scraps.
Well, there's no draft system in place. So the richer clubs can generally buy the best players.
Hence the Leicester thing being a borderline miracle.
yeah much more like baseball. A team gets hot and has a magical season. Then the team gets raided by the bigger clubs.
Oh, I had no idea there was no draft. How do they get new talent then? Just scout and buy?
Youth academies too.
Personally, I really hate the concept of a draft. Historically, football is about grass roots development.
The_Hitcher89
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Domestic FFP and wage caps would be nice to fairly level the playing field, but look like pipe dreams at this point.
Id say EPL is more competitive than the NBA and NFL right now.
Doesn't Adidas gets nearly everything from United shirt sales? One of the reasons why their contract is worth so much?
I love the draft. I love the whole concept of the NBA for example. As it is now the bigger teams don't really use their homegrown players anyways.
It's irrelevant to the point. Man Utd are getting paid for their shirt sales and have the freedom to sell their shirt contract to the highest bidder. The Raiders have to spread their money into the pot.
CecilRousso
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Neil Warnock appointed manager of Cardiff City. Kevin Blackwell of course going there as assistant manager, as always with Warnock,
Kölsch Bloot
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remove 5 and 7 and that's a decent looking table
GoldenCrow
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I really want RB to come top 3. Ideally want them to beat Bayern. at first I was like yeah it is a bit crass, something I'd expect in the MLS but then the pettiness from Bundesliga fans just makes me want them to win.
Its a hilarious season so far in Bundesliga.
Bayern is choking, yet no club is taking advantage. Instead the lead grows...
At least Frankfurt, Köln and Hertha play solid.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind Red Bull making it to CL. Would be very interesting and I like the club and how they work. And I don't get the hate about them. Some clubs are getting their millions from pills, cole, cars. At least they do something with all the money, unlike Hamburg.
Bayern is choking, yet no club is taking advantage. Instead the lead grows...
At least Frankfurt, Köln and Hertha play solid.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind Red Bull making it to CL. Would be very interesting and I like the club and how they work. And I don't get the hate about them. Some clubs are getting their millions from pills, cole, cars. At least they do something with all the money, unlike Hamburg.
Joey Barton charged with breaking gambling rules. I'll be glad when this moron retires and I don't have to hear about him anymore.
toythatkills
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He doesn't seem like the kind of character who'll keep quiet when he retires
TBH I don't hate them either. I like that they focus on young players instead of buying proven and expensive ones.
They also play attractive football. Rangnick knows what hes doing.
Yeah, but he won't be nearly as relevant so hopefully it won't even pop up on my radar. Guy is proven to be charismatic, thoughtful and even nice, yet blames these stupid outbursts/incidents on 'his upbringing'. Grow up, Joey, you're 34 years old.
It's a shame, none of the managers he's had could really set him straight because he was so promising as a teenager at City.
Thank you, Liverpool. Progress being made finally.
A lot of grounds around the country need safe standing to help generate the breath-taking atmospheres of the old days. Safe standing and supporters were not at fault for the disaster, this can be done safely.
Don Draper's Hat
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He'll be all over the sports channels when he retires. Sky Sports, Match of the Day, BT. Fucking everywhere.
I really don't see why a player betting on a match he's not involved in is a problem.
Bayern aren't actually choking though.
It was the best start in bayern' s bundesliga history.Bayern aren't actually choking though.
I think we can play better but that's definitely not choking
One of the Hillsborough Justice campaigns doesn't support safe standing.
Until they can be persuaded it'll never happen at Anfield.
toythatkills
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What's the difference between a standing area and a "safe standing" area. Are the standing areas in League One unsafe somehow?
There are railings inbetween each row, so that a crush would be impossible. The railings also have seats on them, so the ground can still do all seating like Dortmund do on European nights.