Football Thread 2016/17 |OT| Mou Money Mo Pogba
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GoldenCrow
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May as well get rid of the managers and let the players manage themselves. can't be much worse and save a load of cash.
I'm just fucking sad.
The police accounts of the Russian violence at he Euro's in France is scary. Saw the interview on BBC
One cop said he had never seen anything like it in 20yrs of policing football games. On one night the French police told him there was 5 English fans in critical condition. One English fan had their achilles tendons sliced so he couldn't get up and run away, so they could beat him some more. They then left him on the floor to die allowing a second wave of Russian thugs to come in and do some more damage.
He also said don't go to Russia as they have no chance of protecting you.
One cop said he had never seen anything like it in 20yrs of policing football games. On one night the French police told him there was 5 English fans in critical condition. One English fan had their achilles tendons sliced so he couldn't get up and run away, so they could beat him some more. They then left him on the floor to die allowing a second wave of Russian thugs to come in and do some more damage.
He also said don't go to Russia as they have no chance of protecting you.
Celtic, Ajax and other clubs from outside the top 5 leagues are discussing a new intercontinental super league as a response to the new Champions League structure. The rumour came up back in March and has now been confirmed by the CEO of FC Copenhagen. Top teams from Belgium, Netherlands, Scotland and Scandinavia are all involved in the preliminary talks - Portuguese and Swiss team seem to have passed on the opportunity.
Don't really know what to think about it. I'm from the Netherlands and an Ajax supporter.
Our teams stand no chance at all in the CL and won't be in future anymore. The money gap is just to big. Altough we eliminate ourself from playing in the CL, which is a great competition to play in.
As an Ajax supporter I want to see Ajax compete with the sub-top of the big leagues. And that will go to waste aswell with this.
Our teams stand no chance at all in the CL and won't be in future anymore. The money gap is just to big. Altough we eliminate ourself from playing in the CL, which is a great competition to play in.
As an Ajax supporter I want to see Ajax compete with the sub-top of the big leagues. And that will go to waste aswell with this.
Someone should give them the memo that the Europa League already exists.
They are afraid of spanish teams
Wenger please. https://streamable.com/gxkd
SporeCrawler
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lol emre mor gets red after being held and trying to escape from the grip
The re-trial is disgusting and I hope they hold another trial.
What makes me laugh is his Missus front and centre of every public appearance and defending him to the hilt and yet he still had sex with an inebriated 19 year old girl while they were together.
I think with how unsuccessfully rapists are generally dealt with by the law, the fact that he served 2 and a half years could be seen as a victory, sadly.
Regardless of whether or not you think he is guilty, what is undeniable is the fact that his behaviour was sketchy and unethical, at best. He's got the Not Guilty verdict and I'm fine with him pursuing a career as a footballer, in contrast to how I felt before the verdict had been quashed but he had 'done his time'; a convicted rapist should never be playing professional football, though I still would never want to see him wearing my club's shirt.
So, in an effort to extinguish at least some of the stupid, herewith 10 myths we can squash at the outset:
1. So Ched Evans has been proved innocent, right?
Wrong. Youd be forgiven for thinking this, given that it was in the prepared statement read out by his solicitor, but Ched Evans has not demonstrated his innocence. That is not how our criminal justice system operates. It is not a means by which the truth of a situation or event is conclusively and fully determined. Rather the jury are asked one simply question are you sure that the prosecution has proved its case beyond reasonable doubt (or, as juries are commonly instructed, so that you are sure)? Not guilty means just that. The jury were not sure that he was guilty. They may have decided that he was totally, utterly innocent, but we dont know. All we know is that they considered the evidence, and were less than sure of his guilt. As I tell juries in every closing speech if you think the defendant probably did it, hes still not guilty.
2. Well at the very least, the verdict means that the complainant has lied, surely?
No. Absolutely not. A not guilty verdict in most cases is insufficient to safely infer that the jury have concluded that a complainant lied (as opposed to the jury not being sure one way or the other), but in this case the facts suggest the opposite. As the Court of Appeal made clear in its judgment allowing the appeal, X has never asserted that she was raped. She has always simply maintained that she had no memory of what happened. It was the prosecution case the case theory of the Crown Prosecution Service that she was raped. The defence case was based not on the usual he said/ she said dispute over consent, but rather he said/ she cant remember. There is absolutely no safe basis for suggesting she has lied, or, to quell the more hysterical calls, that she should be prosecuted on the basis of Evans acquittal.
More on the website, some pretty disturbing stuff:
https://thesecretbarrister.com/2016/10/14/10-myths-busted-about-the-ched-evans-case/
Sounds like they deserve each other.
The fact is Ched Evans thought it would be a good idea to join in having sex with a young, drunk woman Clayton McDonald had brought back to their hotel after entering the room without asking. Whether or not she was drunk enough to be unable to consent is what the court was there to decide. The alleged victim has had to go through a fair bit of abuse from associates of Evans and online trolls since, making it necessary for her to change her identity a few times.
...and in other classy news, Adam Johnson's ex-girlfriend tweeted her delight at Ched Evans rape conviction being overturned this afternoon.
'Team Ched' Ugh... Rape and child molestation cases being boiled down to 'teams'. Fucking kill me now.
Roberto Larcos
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Overreaction or not, he still put his hands on the guy and pushed him with some force. Why would it be rescinded?
Yeah, that's still not nearly enough to warrant a red card. The defender's reaction is 100% what bought the red card.
A Serious Man
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Hazard!
Leicester is truly dire though, nobody expected them to repeat but woof...
Leicester is truly dire though, nobody expected them to repeat but woof...
Langkamp is such a prick.
I expect that red card will be rescinded. Emre Mor could do with reigning in the temper though.
He said in the interviews afterwards, that he made to much out of it and it wasn't a red card....only did it in the heat of the moment.
Since it was a factual decision by the ref, he will still be suspended.
However it could be only one game, after what Langkamp said.
A Serious Man
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That backheel was fucking clean.
The new crack down on grabbing shirts and pushing in the box has ruined them. They did it a hell of a lot last season.
it's really baffling how we didn't already invest THIS year. I mean this is not something new.
what where Rummenigge and Hopfner thinking? you can argue that ancelotti didn't know the team that well (although our injury record should be well known by now) but the rest of our coaches/managers?
no Vidal, no competition