A team with Sánchez/Özil/Suárez would absolutely have won the league by now. Whoever made the decision to make that extra quid bid should absolutely be sacked, was it Wenger?
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Football Thread 2016/17 |OT| Mou Money Mo Pogba
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wolfwolfwolf
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Technically there was absolutely nothing wrong with that bid for Suarez, they made it under the understanding that a bid of more than 40 million would activate his release clause. Why would you spend more than you have to?
It was on principle more than anything, adding 1 pound takes the piss. It was why Liverpool just ignored the clause completely.
It just comes across as someone not serious..
"Why would you spend more than you have to?" Is exactly what's wrong with Arsenal. Unfortunately nowadays you need to spend the big money if you want the big players. Yes if someone has a release clause of 50 million you don't offer them 70 million but you don't take the piss out of people either offering a pound. It just blew up in their face.
It just comes across as someone not serious..
"Why would you spend more than you have to?" Is exactly what's wrong with Arsenal. Unfortunately nowadays you need to spend the big money if you want the big players. Yes if someone has a release clause of 50 million you don't offer them 70 million but you don't take the piss out of people either offering a pound. It just blew up in their face.
he would have played with Ozil for only a year and not with Sanchez. He was always going to Barca, doubt any team in the Prem could have kept him.
GoldenCrow
Member
I can't wait for Arsenal to get a new manager to shut certain fans the fuck up. I'm sick of hearing it. Same old, same old. The board should have been decisive when the cries started to grow to keep some semblance within the fan base now those tumours are terminal.
Whatever Arsenal decide to do it will only get worse. Arsenal don't have owners that are visionaries or want to grow the club, its part of a sporting portfolio for them and to grow in the current PL market that means it is a money sink, especially when you look at United, City and Chelsea. If you look at the teams Kroenke owns and look at their playing records you will see it looks very similar to Arsenals, sustained periods where the club is in the area it needs to be to make money without really being successful and no big investments.
That team is a Wenger team through and through. I don't think there are many managers that could do wonders with it and the best players like Sanchez and Bellerín are likely to get poached sharpish if he does leave. Also considering they need a striker, a defensive midfielder and a centre back of a high level to play a more balanced form of footy which most clubs are always trying to find it doesn't look to great unless big changes are made.
Whatever Arsenal decide to do it will only get worse. Arsenal don't have owners that are visionaries or want to grow the club, its part of a sporting portfolio for them and to grow in the current PL market that means it is a money sink, especially when you look at United, City and Chelsea. If you look at the teams Kroenke owns and look at their playing records you will see it looks very similar to Arsenals, sustained periods where the club is in the area it needs to be to make money without really being successful and no big investments.
That team is a Wenger team through and through. I don't think there are many managers that could do wonders with it and the best players like Sanchez and Bellerín are likely to get poached sharpish if he does leave. Also considering they need a striker, a defensive midfielder and a centre back of a high level to play a more balanced form of footy which most clubs are always trying to find it doesn't look to great unless big changes are made.
I don't think it would change them. If anything, when Arsenal are floundering in mid-table they will be saying, "Bring Wenger back." or "Why did you replace him with Moyes?", etc.
But I agree with your point. Honestly, with the exception of Sanchez, Ozil and Cazorla, Wenger has done really well to consistently get top four with these other players. I don't think any manager in the world could win the PL or CL with this team.
I still think questions should be asked of the medical team / training regime as it seems Arsenal's best players are constantly injured at the worst times (see: Cazorla).
His Majesty
Banned
Gent is fucking terrible this season (ranked 8th in the league) yet they still manage to outplay Spurs. Good to see Genk also winning in Romania.
Putting some more distance between ourselves and our Dutch neighbours <3
Putting some more distance between ourselves and our Dutch neighbours <3
In a shitty league too right? Just like Germany, France, Spain and Italy.
The premier league is what the English national team are...Overrated
The worst thing is, Spurs fans can't even say they played a weakened team lol.
I know I'm a little harsh, but I've never agreed with anyone that says the Premier League is the best in the world, although it will be over the next few years with more and more legitimate world class players coming over and all the quality managers.
His Majesty
Banned
I wouldn't really compare the Belgian League with Germany, France, Spain and Italy lol. But our teams have been performing relatively well in Europe the last few years. And as I type this Astra Giurgiu equalises, thanks Genk.
I think the last few years have shown that Spain is miles ahead of England on the international theatre.
I just don't like the way some English fans disregard teams, or belittle them and say they're only good because they play in shit leagues, same with the players. If Tottenham benched the likes of Ali, Kane etc and lost they'd have said they would have beaten Genk with first team players lol.
I've lost count of how many times I've heard people talk about world class players and say they're shit because they couldn't handle the premier league etc as though it is the benchmark of quality.
Totally agree about Spain.
edit: It's all over nevermind lol First victory over English opposition too apparently.
His Majesty
Banned
United really riding their luck here, 2-0 now.
Infernostew
Member
Zlatan! Hat trick hero!
edit: Joe Machnik is a fucking cunt. Fox needs to stop getting this clown's opinion during the match.
edit: Joe Machnik is a fucking cunt. Fox needs to stop getting this clown's opinion during the match.
Sgtpepper89
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3-0 doesnt feel like a fair result. I guess St Etienne ran out of fuel the last 20min but still.. So many sloppy passes giving the ball away.
Infernostew
Member
Pogba is world class at hitting the bar.
And to think people doubted Zlatan...Although I'm not sure how I feel about him playing next season. I'd have liked Mourinho to bring someone else in., or has his extension been triggered??
Man UTD Roma final would be good to watch.
this is our time
I believe the triggers gave been activated but all they've done is activate the option for Zlatan. He still has to choose.
Arsene Wenger says he will not retire this summer, even if it means managing a club other than Arsenal.
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...will-manage-next-year-at-arsenal-or-elsewhere
Regarding United sometimes you get results you don't deserve. Yesterday United didn't actually deserve to win imho. But then I remember games like Burnley, Stoke and West Ham at home where they clearly deserved to win but tied.
By the way, yesterday I saw the stat that United already have more shots on target this year in the Premier League than the entire last year.
Mourinho have said many times that he wants and expects Zlatan to stay another year and then retire. The deal was 1+1 and United wants to pick up the option. Apparently it's now up to Zlatan if he wants to stay another year or not.
And yes they have to bring someone else because Zlatan is not the long term future. I still believe Griezmann is the main target for the summer to play alongside Zlatan for a year and then along Rashford. A couple of days ago the portuguese newspapers were saying Mourinho wants 4 players in the summer. A Center back, left back, holding midfielder and a striker. They mentioned Lindelof (of course portuguese newspapers keep trying to hype Benfica players).
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...will-manage-next-year-at-arsenal-or-elsewhere
Regarding United sometimes you get results you don't deserve. Yesterday United didn't actually deserve to win imho. But then I remember games like Burnley, Stoke and West Ham at home where they clearly deserved to win but tied.
By the way, yesterday I saw the stat that United already have more shots on target this year in the Premier League than the entire last year.
Mourinho have said many times that he wants and expects Zlatan to stay another year and then retire. The deal was 1+1 and United wants to pick up the option. Apparently it's now up to Zlatan if he wants to stay another year or not.
And yes they have to bring someone else because Zlatan is not the long term future. I still believe Griezmann is the main target for the summer to play alongside Zlatan for a year and then along Rashford. A couple of days ago the portuguese newspapers were saying Mourinho wants 4 players in the summer. A Center back, left back, holding midfielder and a striker. They mentioned Lindelof (of course portuguese newspapers keep trying to hype Benfica players).
Most beautiful hattrick of the year!
I believe we are 1 shot short of last years total. But I might be remembering from the week before.
I'm fine with Zlatan staying, I'm fine with him going. He has helped us in a transitional year where we needed a goal scorer but had holes in a ton of spots. Griezmann may not be the typical Jose fit but I think his style compliments the other attacking players we have, and I can't really think of a Drogba or Costa type of player that Jose would want for the prem.
His Majesty
Banned
joey barton what a despicable pile of shit
CelticKnight
Member
Surprised Burnley took him back considering his reputation and the gambling crap hanging over his head.
longdi
Banned
Im surprised that oldman Zlatan is scoring so many goals. But could he be benefiting from Jose generosity? No need for back tracking, no need to defend, just stand around the final third and score goals. Not even CR7 had such benefits, Jose was throwing fits about CR7 attacking plays.
If Rooney is given a chance to play such a role, i think he can score as freely too, no?
His Majesty
Banned
89' 0-1 Lincoln, amazing.
CelticKnight
Member
C'mon Lincoln, hang on to win. The look on Barton's face would be priceless....
No. Rooney has lost everything that made him a great player.
CelticKnight
Member
A non-league side in the quarter's of the FA Cup. Pretty impressive achievement.
First non league side into the quarter finals in 103 years. Amazing stuff.
Here's the Joey Barton stuff to show exactly why he's a waste of fucking space.
https://twitter.com/richbannister/status/832960160519827456?s=07
https://twitter.com/7amkickoff/status/832954737695678465?s=07
Here's the Joey Barton stuff to show exactly why he's a waste of fucking space.
https://twitter.com/richbannister/status/832960160519827456?s=07
https://twitter.com/7amkickoff/status/832954737695678465?s=07