ReplacementPelican
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Football Thread 2016/17 |OT| Mou Money Mo Pogba
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No just one to be through.
Ah yeah that's right. The first one ended 3-5.
Infernostew
Member
No. 1 goal and they win if Monaco doesn't score. If City score 2 more and Monaco score 2 more then it goes into extra time.
ReplacementPelican
Member
Amazing, terrible display from City.
BMO = GOAT
Member
At the beginning of the season I was thinking what story line would be if Bayern faced Man City in the final lol
Audioboxer
Member
Man, who's the bigger Fraud now, Mourinho or Guardiola?
Also LOL at the state of English football in Europe. Takes Team Judas to do what Arsenal, or City, can't.
Although, Leicester probably will get pumped in the next round.
Also LOL at the state of English football in Europe. Takes Team Judas to do what Arsenal, or City, can't.
Although, Leicester probably will get pumped in the next round.
Turbo Killer
Member
City competing for the FA cup again, awesome!
Maybe not. City absolutely threw that away. They were a goal up and the momentum was overwhelmingly in their favour. Then a needless free kick, a defensive line that left almost the entire penalty box free for attackers to run into and poor tracking of runners and they gave a needless goal away and that was that. There wasn't much of a fightback either.
Turbo Killer
Member
Because they suck at defense, they have been all year.
GoldenCrow
Member
Monaco utterly deserved that. That was a hard game to watch, turned the TV of multiple times in frustration. Fabinho was brilliant all game.
CMojicaAce
Member
I conducted my own random draw for the quarter finals and got this:
Barcelona vs Juventus
Bayern vs Real Madrid
Atletico vs Dortmund
Leicester vs Monaco
You hear it here first folks.
Barcelona vs Juventus
Bayern vs Real Madrid
Atletico vs Dortmund
Leicester vs Monaco
You hear it here first folks.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
*Ctrl+F Fraud*
4 hits. C'mon GAF we can do better!
If Monaco can be as solid as they were first half no wonder they're top of Ligue 1. City are just... City...
4 hits. C'mon GAF we can do better!
If Monaco can be as solid as they were first half no wonder they're top of Ligue 1. City are just... City...
Audioboxer
Member
Nah, the top European teams are on a different level to the Premier League.
Of course, Team Judas might luck their way around, but they are not outplaying anyone left in this competition.
Audioboxer
Member
Monaco are class, but Pep and Mou are still both frauds.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
He's class in FM
How are they frauds? There's just no logic here. Do they have to coach Sunderland & win the PL plus CL so they aren't considered frauds?
Sorry this whole fraud thing the English regurgitate every time one of their teams loses is just childish, & wholly devoid of logic.
Audioboxer
Member
I mentioned it on the previous page, hit 190PA on a recent save with the winter update that I started. It'll probably be a random dice roll he has between certain numbers rather than a fixed 190.
It's mostly banter used to describe how both of them bottle it a lot. Pep gets some stick because he's largely been in charge of insanely "loaded" teams, as in they're all world class players a donkey could win stuff with. People suggest the Premier League given how challenging it usually is is showing up Pep cracking under pressure.
City is a team with some bottlers and also arguably a bit uneven around the edges. Defensively Pep hasn't just been able to walk in and do his tactics from his old clubs and succeed. Sweeper Keeper shit in the Premier League doesn't really work. Therefore, Peps finding it hard to adapt as he cannot just bulldoze the league like with some of his past clubs.
Of course, he's still a good manager, but banter is banter in England (the UK). We learn from AFTV.
I think it's because Pep hasn't done anything without having insanely talented teams, he doesn't have that at city and he's been shown up frequently this year. The english media is a clown circus too though. I think the whole Hart saga (Lion of England) soured the medias views on him.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
I just think it's fun to type Fraudiola. Bandwagons can be fun!
Most of it is definitely banter from club rivals, for sure . But their are some people who are dead serious about it as well. Which just baffles me. Think it's hard to say anyone could win with their teams when Papa Martino happened, & countless others failed to achieve the heights & the quality of football they brought to their teams respectively.
It's mostly banter used to describe how both of them bottle it a lot. Pep gets some stick because he's largely been in charge of insanely "loaded" teams, as in they're all world class players a donkey could win stuff with. People suggest the Premier League given how challenging it usually is is showing up Pep cracking under pressure.
Pretty sure Pep knew this would be a challenge, as he's said it himself countless times. Their backline has let them down all season as well as Bravo, but they've only had maybe three matches total where they've been simply outplayed/dominated. Doubt you'll see these same struggles next season as Pep's team continually improve each season, it's really just their backline that's the issue.
And to think that Manchester United has an option to match any deal that Monaco accepts for Bernardo Silva, thrown away by Monaco to make the Martial deal look better for United.
Right now, United would be fools if they don't grab him before he joins Barcelona (SPORT and Mundo Deportivo are really trying to push that agenda). He would fit so well in that midfield as a Iniesta replacement. He's creative but at the same time he can recover the posession on defense. United just has to match it and sell Mata. Bernardo Silva is a much better version than Mata was or will ever be, and I like Mata.
I would be surprised if Fabinho isn't a target for United especially considering it was Mourinho that "found" him at Rio Ave and brought him to Real Madrid. He can play as right back and center midfield, is tall and versatile as holding midfielder so he would fit so many Mourinho checkboxes (no longer need Fellaini to create mismatches via the aerial ball).
Monaco will cash in so much if they want. Lemar, Bakayoko, Mbeppe, Bernardo Silva, Fabinho...
Right now, United would be fools if they don't grab him before he joins Barcelona (SPORT and Mundo Deportivo are really trying to push that agenda). He would fit so well in that midfield as a Iniesta replacement. He's creative but at the same time he can recover the posession on defense. United just has to match it and sell Mata. Bernardo Silva is a much better version than Mata was or will ever be, and I like Mata.
I would be surprised if Fabinho isn't a target for United especially considering it was Mourinho that "found" him at Rio Ave and brought him to Real Madrid. He can play as right back and center midfield, is tall and versatile as holding midfielder so he would fit so many Mourinho checkboxes (no longer need Fellaini to create mismatches via the aerial ball).
Monaco will cash in so much if they want. Lemar, Bakayoko, Mbeppe, Bernardo Silva, Fabinho...
GoldenCrow
Member
Not even really banter, just regurgitated dross people read on social media and in shitty tabloids.
I have been slightly surprised by the criticisms Pep has got, especially by those who prior espoused him to be the best thing to happen to football management, its like they never watched Bayern or Barca under him. I guess they also just spouted shit somebody else said they thought made them sound knowledgable. His tactics are identical except for the slight meddling he did that really didn't work (especially against Tottenham). Combine that with a lack of a defender and midfielder who anticipate the opposition play, something that has always been core to his tactics it is pretty much expected.
Audioboxer
Member
But yeah, to conclude, Pep is a fraud.
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It's cool man, your points are sound
It's banter in here! Football-GAF needs some more banter. It's boring just relying on AFTV!
They have so much young talent it's crazy, I want to see this team develop more but they seem found of selling off their young stars.
Haha, you're right. I've just debated these things in countless other places so I'm just used to it at this point. Banter away!
They have been selling every year but they keep finding new young players and develop them into the first team. Just look at the players they sold in recent years: Martial, Kondogbia, Ferreira-Carrasco, Kurzawa, James Rodriguez, etc.
And it's not the case of them going out and buying already promising players, they go and make deals for players on reserve squads of other teams for relatively cheap. What an amazing job of that scouting department and the managers of their teams.
Audioboxer
Member
Some serious football communites can be a drag -_-
Once you realise some people actually believe some of the nonsense they come out with, you can only shake your head.
I mean, anyone sane knows Pep is a good manager. Like every good manager though he's not perfect.
The thing most of us love about the Premier League is just how unpredictable results can be, and often that is both players AND managers choking. The era of any one club dominating and winning 3/4/5+ titles in a row or in a short space is just gone. I mean, it's very unlikely Chelsea will win again next season. Heck, we can't even get clubs winning back to back FA Cups (hi Man Utd).
If anyone shat the bed it was Vardy. Ranieri must have hit on his wife or something at a party.
BMO = GOAT
Member
Hmm for the QF I want:
Juventus vs Barcelona
Dortmund vs Leicester
Bayern vs Monaco
Real Madrid vs Atlético.
Juventus vs Barcelona
Dortmund vs Leicester
Bayern vs Monaco
Real Madrid vs Atlético.