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Dadasch

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Yet neither Bayern, PSG Athletico nor Juventus have won it in the past five years. Please, spare me the goal post shifting.

Look at what PSG and the Italian clubs do!! They clearly prioritise the development of their clubs and league ahead of some noble individual decision rubbish I often hear. There's a reason the Italian club s prioritise the sale of dybala and Belotti only to Italian clubs. There's a reason Madrid couldn't sign David Alaba after several attempts, there's a reason PSG went on the offensive against Barcelona. The sun doesn't shine out of their bums.

Heck, look at Leipzig and Naby Keita case. If a club doesn't want to sell, Barcelona can roll all they want, it won't happen

Bayern did actually, 2013 I think. Atletico and Juventus were several times in the final.
Don't understand what you're trying to say.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Yet neither Bayern, PSG Athletico nor Juventus have won it in the past five years. Please, spare me the goal post shifting.

Look at what PSG and the Italian clubs do!! They clearly prioritise the development of their clubs and league ahead of some noble individual decision rubbish I often hear. There's a reason the Italian club s prioritise the sale of dybala and Belotti only to Italian clubs. There's a reason Madrid couldn't sign David Alaba after several attempts, there's a reason PSG went on the offensive against Barcelona. The sun doesn't shine out of their bums.

Heck, look at Leipzig and Naby Keita case. If a club doesn't want to sell, Barcelona can roll all they want, it won't happen

Bayern, Atletico and Juventus have been in semis or CL finals in the past years. I haven't said anything about winning.

Yet Real bought Kroos from Bayern. Real bought Zinedine Zidane from Juventus. Barcelona bought Zlatan from Inter. Real bought Kaka from Milan. Real bought Ronaldo from Inter. And this during the times when Italian clubs were stronger than now.

Atletico wouldn't sell players to their Spanish rivals, but quite often their biggest players are sold away to other teams.

PSG is a special case with unlimited budget.

Edit: and Red Bull didn't sell Keita because Keita thought it's not worthy to start a rebellion for Liverpool.
 

RulkezX

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First I honestly thought RB Leipzig and though ''shit, Liverpool is in danger'' and then I remembered they finished in the automatic spot
yeah, Hoffenheim aren't strong


Neither are Liverpool. You wouldn't put money on Liverpool not conceding home and away.
 

longdi

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Barca is fucking up the neymar transfer. 220m is no small sum, enough to buy 1 star replacement (coutinho, aguero, dybala) and 2 more utility players (DF and MF), and with small change. But they seems likely to go in the red with weak replacements.
 
Yet neither Bayern, PSG Athletico nor Juventus have won it in the past five years. Please, spare me the goal post shifting.

Look at what PSG and the Italian clubs do!! They clearly prioritise the development of their clubs and league ahead of some noble individual decision rubbish I often hear. There's a reason the Italian club s prioritise the sale of dybala and Belotti only to Italian clubs. There's a reason Madrid couldn't sign David Alaba after several attempts, there's a reason PSG went on the offensive against Barcelona. The sun doesn't shine out of their bums.

Heck, look at Leipzig and Naby Keita case. If a club doesn't want to sell, Barcelona can roll all they want, it won't happen

I agree with you. If the premier league teams sold to each other, they'll have won more in europe and dominate. Look at Modric he wanted to go to Chelsea, Spurs refused and he ended up going to Real Madrid. Suarez with Arsenal. Bayern, Juventus and Madrid-Barca dominate their leagues because they attract the talent within their leagues.

People talk like Barca have been dominating since forever. They only really started to dominate with the rise of Messi and the midfield trio of Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets. When the Premier league teams were dominating in Europe they could attract the talent they wanted. It's all which team is dominating.
 

Linius

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rip footygaf 2011-2015

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TrueBlue

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I would be quite okay with Chelsea signing both Barkley and Ox before the season opener

Ox would be fine. We need more creativity if Hazard is missing. I'm not convinced about Barkley yet. Potential is there, but that's been the way for ages. Ox at least would provide depth to a position we need filling.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
I agree with you. If the premier league teams sold to each other, they'll have won more in europe and dominate. Look at Modric he wanted to go to Chelsea, Spurs refused and he ended up going to Real Madrid. Suarez with Arsenal. Bayern, Juventus and Madrid-Barca dominate their leagues because they attract the talent within their leagues.

People talk like Barca have been dominating since forever. They only really started to dominate with the rise of Messi and the midfield trio of Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets. When the Premier league teams were dominating in Europe they could attract the talent they wanted. It's all which team is dominating.

It makes much less sense for PL teams to sell their best players to rivals than to teams from other countries. Just look at Matic transfer now.
 

Moobabe

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Ox would be fine. We need more creativity if Hazard is missing. I'm not convinced about Barkley yet. Potential is there, but that's been the way for ages. Ox at least would provide depth to a position we need filling.

I'd take Ox for £30m, but Barkley I wouldn't take for over £30m - if Everton want 50 they can jog on.
 

Lashley

Why does he wear the mask!?
lol

@ChelseaFC expect @diegocosta to return to the club, train + get match fit, as per the terms of his contract.
 

Lashley

Why does he wear the mask!?
It's in their interest to make it clear he's the one violating the contract.

Except he was informed by the manager he was not wanted?

Saying now that they want him back to get match fit just seems hypocritical

Kaveh Solhekol
@SkyKaveh
Chelsea want Diego Costa to come back to UK, start training, get match fit and put himself back in contention for selection
 

Audioboxer

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If we sell him, and for that little? Wenger and our board can piss right off



Typical Arsenal transfer saga, we're a shambles



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Messi's leg tattoo is pretty terrible. I've not got anything against tattoos, I just think if done poorly you can end up looking like a fucking idiot. It seems some footballers end up with so much money they don't know what to do with it so they end up acting like 5-year-olds would with tattoo designs. There could probably be a whole official topic for footballers with terrible tattoos.

From diving like children to designing tattoos like children, these men sometimes. Ramos has the tats and the diving, level 99 pro here. Been grinding the exp for years.
 

Lashley

Why does he wear the mask!?
12-year-old Youssoufa Moukoko made his Bundesliga U17 debut yesterday & scored twice for #BVB!

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He must've lived a hard life. Old looking 12 year old.
 

WriterGK

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First I honestly thought RB Leipzig and though ''shit, Liverpool is in danger'' and then I remembered they finished in the automatic spot
yeah, Hoffenheim aren't strong

If they aren't strong then they would not have come this far. You don't just finish 4th in Germany with the snap of your fingers. They were only 2 points behind number 3 Dortmund and 13 points number 5 1Fc Koln. I do have to confess I don't watch Bundesliga that often but I will definitely be watching a lot of summary video's this whole season and hopefully some live matches as well. But it's alway dangerous to underestimated your fellow opponent. I know Bayern are like 1 man team for champions in Germany but all the other places are some really good teams for in the races.
 
Ox would be fine. We need more creativity if Hazard is missing. I'm not convinced about Barkley yet. Potential is there, but that's been the way for ages. Ox at least would provide depth to a position we need filling.

Barkley is worth a shout for the £25m-£30m touted for a player last year of contract, English and got potential, same as Ox.

Come to Stamford Bridge, let our medical team heal them of whatever Arsenal do to Ox and Barkley will finally have a top class manager (do like RoKo though) then if Barkley bad sell him to united or something for like £40m in 2 seasons
 

Devil

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Yet neither Bayern, PSG Athletico nor Juventus have won it in the past five years.

Don't know what you two are arguing about, bu this right here makes me sad that people in here don't even remember that Bayern won the CL in 2013. Especially when the topic "who won in the last 5 years" is the topic you yourself brought up, lol.

Right in the heart.
 
Barkley is worth a shout for the £25m-£30m touted for a player last year of contract, English and got potential, same as Ox.

Come to Stamford Bridge, let our medical team heal them of whatever Arsenal do to Ox and Barkley will finally have a top class manager (do like RoKo though) then if Barkley bad sell him to united or something for like £40m in 2 seasons

Plus we need more English players.
 

Devil

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If they aren't strong then they would not have come this far. You don't just finish 4th in Germany with the snap of your fingers. They were only 2 points behind number 3 Dortmund and 13 points number 5 1Fc Koln. I do have to confess I don't watch Bundesliga that often but I will definitely be watching a lot of summary video's this whole season and hopefully some live matches as well. But it's alway dangerous to underestimated your fellow opponent. I know Bayern are like 1 man team for champions in Germany but all the other places are some really good teams for in the races.

Don't overestimate Bundesliga, really. The league is weak as fuck behind Bayern and Dortmund, with RB may becoming a third club to take a little serious in the future.

Dortmund has also been underperforming in the league recently and are often the victim of losing their most incredible players (as a Bayern supporter: guilty, lol).

All the clubs which should come directly behind Bayern and Dortmund in terms of money and squad, such as Schalke, Wolfsburg, Leverkusen and also Hoffenheim have constantly failed to establish themselves on spots 3 to 6 for more than just one year. Every time they had a chance to represent Bundesliga in CL or EL they played like little kids afraid of the spotlight. Clubs located in big cities have also underperformed and were not able to harvest the benefits of their cities: Hamburg, Berlin, Cologne.

Hoffenheim looked sort of strong last season, but that's also because all the other teams which should have been up there played like shit.
 

DBT85

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Barkley is worth a shout for the £25m-£30m touted for a player last year of contract, English and got potential, same as Ox.

Come to Stamford Bridge, let our medical team heal them of whatever Arsenal do to Ox and Barkley will finally have a top class manager (do like RoKo though) then if Barkley bad sell him to united or something for like £40m in 2 seasons

So far we've had Mata, Matic and Lukaku as your castoffs and it's all going OK.
 
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