Stead Fast
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Me and a friend of mine are literally of the same mind. Genuinely looking forwards to see what we do in the first game after a transfer window, which is something I haven't really felt since Suarez came in.
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Me and a friend of mine are literally of the same mind. Genuinely looking forwards to see what we do in the first game after a transfer window, which is something I haven't really felt since Suarez came in.
So LFC have had a good-ish window, still annoyed that it was Van than man or no one, surely that is a scouting error, as you should have multiple targets...
I would of been inclined to let Coutiniho go and go and got Lemar as it sounds like we could of got him but the cheaper option of OX presented itself. And I honestly don't feel we get the same amount next year fro Couts, Klopp now has a lot of forward talent to keep happy
I would of been inclined to let Coutiniho go and go and got Lemar as it sounds like we could of got him but the cheaper option of OX presented itself. And I honestly don't feel we get the same amount next year fro Couts, Klopp now has a lot of forward talent to keep happy
Stead Fast
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So would I (letting Cout go that is), however the circumstance is pretty well explained in this article from the Independent that Markitron posted a few pages back. It goes into a fair bit of detail surrounding the lack of professionalism from Braca, Cout, his agent, and Liverpool themselves. It's also a good lesson as to why we weren't even trying to get VVD by the end of the transfer window since the parallels are too severe. I think by the time this scandal got so much coverage, it wasn't about money to John Henry, it was saving face.
I'd have liked Lemar, but getting him in place of Cout would present the same problem you mentioned; keeping the attacking end of the pitch happy.
WhateverItTakes
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I think I heard Kolo was getting his coaching badges so he might not have been bothered about selling himself to clubs. It's more important to train the next generation of dodgy car salesmen.
Unreal Champ
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They are trying to save face because the papers in Spain are ripping them to shred. Just like how the deal was hours away or how it was close or how he will be revealed on Wednesday etc etc
McMoneyman
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That Barcelona press conference is not worthy of a club of that size, they should be bigger than this. What a shambles.
Stead Fast
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Belotti is gonna open. Calling it.
MikeBison
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I know why they're doing it, but I don't think anyone is buying it. Better to just say we tried every scummy tactic possible but John Henry just sat there with a fat cigar shaking his head.
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Barcelona Chief
Of course
Regarding Neymar leaving
But goes on to spend over £130 million on Dembélé. Ok buddy, we believe you.
Of course
Regarding Neymar leaving
But goes on to spend over £130 million on Dembélé. Ok buddy, we believe you.
Stead Fast
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'Friendship ended with Liverpool, now Dormund is my best friend' kind of approach, isn't it?
GoldenCrow
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I was happy with City's transfer window got rid of a lot, 28 in total (transfers and loans) which was really needed and brought in some players that look good in important areas that needed strengthening which should have been looked at a long time ago.
Mendy - Not seen much in sky blue but his movement was great, speed good and could do a basic holding job, can't describe how happy I was to see that on the left flank for years of that being taken the piss out of game after game. Excellent with the cross.
Walker - Looked decent before the red card, again not seen much but just being able to push the flanks properly and keep up with wingers makes a massive difference.
Danilo - Better than I expected can do a defencive shift on the left and has some decent crosses on the right that weren't really taken advantage of.
Ederson - Not really been tested and not made any mistakes. Most noticeable thing is that he can play the ball out well and has one hell of a kick on him, Liverpool should test him and I look forward to seeing that.
B Silva - Had a slow start but has had flashes of what he is capable of, can't wait to see what he brings to the team even if it is just an upgrade on Sterling.
Another left back, central defender and a centre mid would have been the perfect window but to expect that in a single window would be ridiculous and probably cause a lot of stability problems.
I'm hoping that now City have wing backs that can deliver decent crosses and get back in time to cover long balls it will force teams that in the past have opted to play a narrow low block (everyone besides Liverpool and Arsenal) to play a wider low block so it creates more room in the middle. If not its going to be a boring as fuck season.
Mendy - Not seen much in sky blue but his movement was great, speed good and could do a basic holding job, can't describe how happy I was to see that on the left flank for years of that being taken the piss out of game after game. Excellent with the cross.
Walker - Looked decent before the red card, again not seen much but just being able to push the flanks properly and keep up with wingers makes a massive difference.
Danilo - Better than I expected can do a defencive shift on the left and has some decent crosses on the right that weren't really taken advantage of.
Ederson - Not really been tested and not made any mistakes. Most noticeable thing is that he can play the ball out well and has one hell of a kick on him, Liverpool should test him and I look forward to seeing that.
B Silva - Had a slow start but has had flashes of what he is capable of, can't wait to see what he brings to the team even if it is just an upgrade on Sterling.
Another left back, central defender and a centre mid would have been the perfect window but to expect that in a single window would be ridiculous and probably cause a lot of stability problems.
I'm hoping that now City have wing backs that can deliver decent crosses and get back in time to cover long balls it will force teams that in the past have opted to play a narrow low block (everyone besides Liverpool and Arsenal) to play a wider low block so it creates more room in the middle. If not its going to be a boring as fuck season.
Stead Fast
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Next weekend is gonna be intense. First heart-attack match of the season for me, I imagine.
GoldenCrow
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Lets hope so. As much as I want to see City play fluid attacking football I really want to see what City's defence is like, if it is comfortable with what Liverpool can bring I will be happy, if it is an upgrade on last year I will be happy. If it's the same as before (i.e. open season on the wings) I will be pissed.
I think the game combined with the week after will be a good gage on how Liverpool are set up for title runners or top four. As it is City, Sevilla, Burnley if Liverpool don't bust a bollock on the Saturday but play well, have strong performance on the Wednesday then batter Burnley after that they will be title contenders as it means they will have addressed their biggest weakness for years.
Flamini's been more interested in his business ventures than playing football for a while now
McMoneyman
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Who knows last year they were 1-0 to Liverpool at Anfield and 1-1 at the Etihad.
Some early morning fireworks before the snoozefest at the Britannia.
His Majesty
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snakes don't cry
GoldenCrow
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If it has been like the last few weeks it will be Fernandinho, KdB and Silva. Sometimes with KdB on the back line.
Stead Fast
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I've been hearing this too. Can't be sympathetic to be honest, he helped make this bed he and the club are lying in right now. If he had any inkling that he'd be leaving this summer, why commit to a new contract? I know contracts don't mean shit to a lot of players and clubs, but he was giving a message he'd be a part of Klopp's plans. Given that, Klopp can't be faulted for wanting to keep one of, if not his most valuable players this season, when Cout decides to be fickle and chase the Nou Camp simply because they came booty-calling us. The club itself boxed themselves in to the point where the owner had to come out and declare he wasn't for sale, purely for the sake of making sure Liverpool's word on such subjects meant more than 'nothing'. I can imagine there'll be a lot of trepidation of playing here now too, given how he's fallen very far off the pecking order as far as fans are concerned, and given how he seems to be keeping his head fixed on international selection too, it's not like he can feign injury for the next year.
Purely as an aside, but if he was moving to Barca for the sake of glory, that wouldn't be the smarted club in Spain, let alone Europe, even had he completed a move.
GoldenCrow
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No idea. If he can play like that when unhappy I don't think Liverpool have much to worry about. Great link up play with Jesus. There was still a day left for transfer business in spain though when Brazil played.
It's understandable. Playing for Barcelona is a dream for many.
Coutinho is no Neymar. You'd have to be utterly insane to pay €200m for him.
Coutinho is no Neymar. You'd have to be utterly insane to pay €200m for him.
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And neither is Dembele but they paid over £138 million for him. That amount is not that far from Neymar money.
Problem with coutinho doing this is he's not as an amazing player as Suarez. So when Suarez wanted to leave and was kept, he still was a quality player.
I think coutinho is going to struggle this season because of the pressure to please fans. No doubt he'll get assists and goals but think it'll take alot to get fans back on his side.
I think coutinho is going to struggle this season because of the pressure to please fans. No doubt he'll get assists and goals but think it'll take alot to get fans back on his side.
In case of Dembele, you spend €150m on a 20 year-old that you think will become a superstar or (at least) an amazing player.
In case of Coutinho you spend €200m on a 25 year-old, as old as Neymar, that clearly never will be a superstar.
I think both cases are dumb, but it's very easy to see why they would not spend €200m on Coutinho.
McMoneyman
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Knuckle down Phil, play brilliant for us, go to the World Cup and win the bloody thing and then you can go to Barcelona if you want it so badly.
Stead Fast
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Regardless of Cout's level versus Dembele or Neymar, it's a moot point. I honestly don't believe that a demand for €200m was ever even put forwards by Liverpool in the first place, which is what Unreal Champ seems to have been getting at by that first post, and Unreal Champ was simply noting that Barca saying:
Was already hypocritical given the price they were willing to pay for Dembele - and sell Neymar too for that matter. Barca look and sound like children right now.
McMoneyman
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Chris Bascombe‏ @_ChrisBascombe
LFC position on Barca claims today is they are absolutely false. Not true in any shape or form.
Guess the war is on now.
LFC position on Barca claims today is they are absolutely false. Not true in any shape or form.
Guess the war is on now.
Unreal Champ
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Juventus spent €90 million on a 28 year old and everyone know they are a stingy football team. So obviously age isn't a problem.
Thank you. That was my point exactly. Barca are looking like hypocrites because of that statement.
Agreed.
I feel like a lot of people seem to underestimate Dembele, because he isn't worth the transfer fee. Well, he absolutely isn't at this point, but if Dembele would have shown his skills in the EPL the reactions here would be entirely different.
GHG
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Liverpool vs Barca in a war of words...
I don't think we should believe either. Barca for obvious reasons and Liverpool for the fact that they pretended a buyout clause didn't exist when in fact it did (Suarez). Scum vs scum.
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McMoneyman
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God Sullivan is a cunt. Bilic is useless, but Sullivan is such a cunt. What manager would want to work for him if he knows he's a couple of bad results from being slagged off on Twitter?
WhateverItTakes
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The charity game (for Grenfell) is on right now if anyone was every curious about hearing Matt Lucas on commentary.
Unsurprisingly Mo Farah is good for pressing.
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