Sviatoslav
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lol, I remember Kermit telling me on the facebook group that Hart has only made 2 errors this past year and both were in an England shirt.
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Football Thread |OT10| A Street Ass Named Premier
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lol, I remember Kermit telling me on the facebook group that Hart has only made 2 errors this past year and both were in an England shirt.
The implication I got was that it would be a free transfer for Di Santo. In any case, seems like its probably just the Mirror assuming because Di Santo was once a Chelsea youth product and Rodgers was youth coach that he'll make a move.
Get on that, then.
Wigan have Stam and Beausejour and Kone The Precise to keep them going.
Assaidi
MuzzledBasher
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Well to be fair De Gea is dog shit whereas Hart is at least a competent, if not good GK.
I wouldn't mind us being in for Reina. Just not 20million.
You've let yourself down there.
Even Arnie would hesitate before posting a spasm of daftness like that.
KidA Seven
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MuzzledBasher
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For future reference which would you say is the daft part? Da Gea being crap, Hart being competent or maybe both?
De Gea is a very good shot stopper. Media portray an incorrect image of him. Watch him play, and that's with a shaky defense in front of him and he is in fact very good. I would honestly say they are equal, both very good, but neither in the class of Neuer/Casillas just yet.
De Gea is future Spain no1. I have no doubt. He will become world class, he's got all the tools.
He has had an absurd amount of shots coming at him this season (the statistics are pretty awful; I think only QPR have "conceded" more shots on goal than us). His LB is a notable wanderer. His CBs change from week to week. His fairly shaky defence gets marginal protection from our hilarious midfield. He gets dropped and rotated (the difference is fairly superficial) quite a bit.
A crap keeper in those conditions would go completely to pieces. DeGea hasn't. He makes mistakes, but I'll want him in against Madrid. No question.
De Gea hasn't made me nearly as annoyed as Barthez used to. He has some way to go before he gets me quite as fucking pissed as that.
MuzzledBasher
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Maybe you are right and at least stat wise towards the end of last season he did seem to be in route to being a good goallie but I will stick to "pretending"(hoping) he is Almunia 2.0. Incidentally hasn't Neuer been pretty crap this year? That's what my Bundesliga following friend keeps saying anyway.
Vivalaraza
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Nah he isn't as good as Hart, no chance.
I have every confidence he will be though, and better.
De Gea really needs us to start helping him out. I know the keeper is there to deal with things going into the box but he is far far too busy. Yesterday he probably had to deal with at least 10 shots and more deliveries into the box. He made one mistake (albeit a pretty bad one).
KidA Seven
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Yeah, Adler is the best in the Bundesliga.
De Gea has only made what? 2 obvious mistakes? The vidic mistake and yesterday's mistake? He's made ridiculous saves and has kept us in a lot of games (Ex: Everton). Every mistake he makes gets exaggerated and while other keepers' mistakes get talked about by pundits/commentators, they rarely mention them in the following games.
He wasn't performing well in his first half of last season. He's performed well since then.
Edit: De Gea has been rated as the top PL goalkeeper this season by whoscored. And yet United have conceded 28 goals this season. Of course, that shouldn't be taken as fact, but it at least shows that he has been performing well this season.
http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2
Vivalaraza
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The main positive for us with with De Gea, as Sad said, is that he has remained composed.
Last season early on he did look at sea. This year he has been far more focused and confident in himself which bodes well.
He did have one genuinely terrible game though, at Newcastle, where we actually kept a clean sheet :lol
Last season early on he did look at sea. This year he has been far more focused and confident in himself which bodes well.
He did have one genuinely terrible game though, at Newcastle, where we actually kept a clean sheet :lol
I don't agree, I think he is. Hart made a bad mistake yesterday too, cost his side the match. Just like his goal keeping cost his side the match against Real Madrid and Man Utd. Hart has to shoulder some blame in all those games. De Gea has a ridiculously hard task at United because of the awesome style open play that United play. United are head and shoulders the best side to watch this season by a long way because of how open and exciting their play is but for a goal keeper it's an absolute nightmare and given the circumstances compared to the situation at City De Gea holds his own against Hart imo. The amount of saves De Gea makes is staggering. I mean of course you will make a mistake when your defenders are allowing the opposition to use you as target practice.
KidA Seven
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Sinister as fuck yo
It's like if the emperor was conversing with a giant, red, bear Darth Vader
MuzzledBasher
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Speaking of bad players... Where the heck is the hype for Zaha coming from? Excuse me while I put my tinfoil hat on, but does anyone else think this is some PR campaign by Palace? It escalated so quickly and I just had to laugh at his England call up. Stat wise he is terrible(Ince destroys him) and all the compilation video meant to highlight him end up making him look like a selfish imbecile who doesn't know anything about passing or team play. He does have pretty nice physique for a potential future CF tho.
Vivalaraza
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agreed. unfortunately that definitely means were gonna buy him then.
I honestly don't know either. I will be fuming if he is Wenger's "exceptional" talent buy to try and turn our fortunes around. Getting tired of unproven players from the Championship at high fees.
pulga
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De Gea is a fantastic keeper. Would love to have him at Madrid over that turd Casillas.
lololololol
lololololol
MuzzledBasher
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Well for under 10mil there is some sort of perverse pleasure in seeing him replace Walcott, if only to see other Arsenal fan rage when he doesn't perform. Besides he can't be much worse than Gervinho. Tho I'd much rather Arsenal actually try and give Joel Campbell a go if he is still an Arsenal player at the end of summer instead of Zaha.
pulga
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He's currently on loan at Real Betis, methinks. And please no, the less talented and experienced costa rican players, the better off for Honduras' chances of WC14 qualification D:
Not quite sure what Real fans problem with Casillas is but you cannot replace him with a better keeper in the world because there isn't one
Jeff Albertson
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Berg sacked it looks like
Good luck Henning no hard feelings
Good luck Henning no hard feelings
MuzzledBasher
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Yep with the option to make it permanent for 10mil at the end of the season. Honestly it's not like the Spanish clubs don't know how to develop their young talents, he is much more likely to get his development hindered at Arsenal in favour of some of the talent coming through the academy and whoever Wenger's next target man flop is going to be.
pulga
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lol should've ended with a /Mourinho. Of course I'm not being serious. I do have a big problem with how much shit him and Ramos have been stirring up, though.
I have no problems with casillas, he is the best in the world. our defense is what lets us down. casillas somehow gets the flack whilst the brainless duo of pepe and ramos get a free pass.
i unfortunately actually know a few persons who want casillas sold off and get a "better" keeper :/
Milchmonster
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Oh wow, why must almost every German sport website post Bild shit? It's fucking sad.
Today: "United with a huge offer for Lewandowski. He'll earn 25m, over 5 years."
That's just like 500k a year more than what we offered him, idiots, how is that even a huge offer.
Today: "United with a huge offer for Lewandowski. He'll earn 25m, over 5 years."
That's just like 500k a year more than what we offered him, idiots, how is that even a huge offer.
Sviatoslav
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Reading that Roma plan on getting Dzagoev in the summer. Yes, please! Do it, Zeman! Somebody take Honda too, completely gut CSKA.
SAF won't stop until he's signed most of your starting XI.
Lewa's agent seems to want a plastic club to compete with us for him.
Even if Bild is a Banned Paper, all this noise seems to have a strategic aspect.
KidA Seven
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I still think Chelsea will go for him.
MuzzledBasher
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Isn't Lewandowski the primary forward in what is right now a better team? So why would he want to downgrade to being a third choice forward at Man U where he would have to compete with two wc players in front of him for the next two to three years? Unless Rooney is being sold, I just can't see it happening.
Sviatoslav
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Why? So you could Şahin them?
Well that's a shame. It would be exciting to see him go to another league some day (but while still on his prime) and see if he could still pull it off week after week while dealing with new teammates, more agressive defenders, etc.
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