AndresON777
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Utd fans, get over your loss and remember of the good old days.
Fry, I love you, can you guys beat Madrid? por fa?
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Fry, I love you, can you guys beat Madrid? por fa?
I pussed out
Well in this case it's awareness that is the key issue. Nani clearly watched the ball the whole way and wasn't aware of Arbeloa.
If playing by the books, then a player should never do anything that could possibly be a hazard. That would create an entirely new, non-contact sport where feet couldn't even be lifted from the floor.
Relaxed Muscle
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We need a gif of Modric's goal (or I missed it).
I was asking the whole match to someone to shoot and Modric hear me.
I was asking the whole match to someone to shoot and Modric hear me.
MrPing1000
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A close contest ruined by a bizarre decision.
Sleeplessnights
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Where does the referee associations stand? RIGHT.
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Basically United fans only live in London :lol, if a game is on ESPN or Sky you're bound to find the game on in any number of pubs. Wetherspoons tend not to show them because they're family pubs, but a lot of privately owned pubs will be showing the match. You'll likely be allowed the kids in until a specific time, but again Wetherspoons is more family orientated but don't show the matches.
Cool deal. Thanks for the tips!
Oh F me.... I'll own that one.
José Mourinho
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I'd like to start by saying that that was a good watch. Happy to see United dumped out. Just going to enjoy this as it won't be long until they knock us out of the F.A. Cup and go on to win the league also.
Anyway. When I first watched the Nani foul I was of the opinion that it was never a red. There is no way he went in with intention. That said, the more you watch it, the more you have to agree that it was potentially very dangerous. And more so, from the angle the referee sees it, it was guaranteed to look bad. It's a 50-50 for me. I can understand the red, but equally I could see other referee's only handing out a yellow.
The Rafael handball should of been a pen. Of course he could never of got his hands out of the way, but when they're up above you're head, you're asking for it.
All in all I think the referee did okay.
The red did change the game though and I don't think Madrid would have come back had Nan of stayed on. As for Mourinho's comments, he has a point, but at this stage I just think he's fed up with Madrid and is acting the walt. I'm also starting to think he might actually end up back at Chelsea, even though it seems incredibly unlikely.
Anyway. When I first watched the Nani foul I was of the opinion that it was never a red. There is no way he went in with intention. That said, the more you watch it, the more you have to agree that it was potentially very dangerous. And more so, from the angle the referee sees it, it was guaranteed to look bad. It's a 50-50 for me. I can understand the red, but equally I could see other referee's only handing out a yellow.
The Rafael handball should of been a pen. Of course he could never of got his hands out of the way, but when they're up above you're head, you're asking for it.
All in all I think the referee did okay.
The red did change the game though and I don't think Madrid would have come back had Nan of stayed on. As for Mourinho's comments, he has a point, but at this stage I just think he's fed up with Madrid and is acting the walt. I'm also starting to think he might actually end up back at Chelsea, even though it seems incredibly unlikely.
This is interesting actually. I'm just reading through the FIFA rules.
Law 12. Fouls and Misconduct. Pt 28
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_12_fouls_misconduct_en_47379.pdf
Here are the important parts:
So really, it should've been a yellow. But you can't expect referees to know the rules it seems these days. No one seems to - I know I didn't. Refereeing is ridiculously inconsistent in practice, even at this level.
Law 12. Fouls and Misconduct. Pt 28
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_12_fouls_misconduct_en_47379.pdf
Here are the important parts:
So really, it should've been a yellow. But you can't expect referees to know the rules it seems these days. No one seems to - I know I didn't. Refereeing is ridiculously inconsistent in practice, even at this level.
Broder Salsa
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Van Persie is never good in big competitions like CL and the Euros, he needs to play in a weak league like premier league to get his goals statistics up on wiki.
Willkiller
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True, people will talk about the red but you certainly had your chances
That's because Danny Failbeck is not a footballer. The sooner Ferguson realises this the sooner he'll replace him with an actual footballer.
It was a definite red card. Anyone who disagrees obviously don't know the rules. The man came in with a flying kung fu kick.
The_Hitcher89
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Bullshit. Don't blindly raise your studs at chest-height in a position where its a probability that another player is running towards the ball as well, and you'll be reet
Further bullshit. Not bizarre. Unexpected, but not unjust
Meh. The rules should be intended to reduce dangerous play. If he's not aware there are other players on the pitch, then that's dangerous. Worthy of a red? I dunno, I'm not a ref. But it's his job to be aware of the other players on the pitch.
United lost. Woohoo you guys are happy! But we also get shat on by saying we're proud of our team's performance. WTF is this shit?
Come the fuck on. A fan has every reason to be proud of his or her team if they played great.
FootballFan
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Madrid fans coming back after a good week lol.
mocolostrocolos
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Vinegar Joe
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Dangerous or excessive force, I think. This was clearly neither.
Even f365 don't think it was a red, which is something.
Vivalaraza
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Lol why can't United fans be proud, or why is that bullshit?
I get that for many people this is wonderful and they should enjoy it, that's the nature of football and the tribalism amongst fans.
Doesn't mean we as United fans can not be proud of our teams efforts or that is somehow a cop out. You ask for your team to at least give you maximum effort and our players did that. It's better than being knocked out by lying down or not showing courage which we have done in the past, for example when we lost to City 1-0 at the Etihad.
Anyway...
I get that for many people this is wonderful and they should enjoy it, that's the nature of football and the tribalism amongst fans.
Doesn't mean we as United fans can not be proud of our teams efforts or that is somehow a cop out. You ask for your team to at least give you maximum effort and our players did that. It's better than being knocked out by lying down or not showing courage which we have done in the past, for example when we lost to City 1-0 at the Etihad.
Anyway...
Dude better doesn´t appear in a match with a english team for a while.
The Friendly Monster
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Man it's so frustrating to go out like that. Utd proved they are still among the best in Europe at least. I'm also glad it wasn't the other team diving or cheating that conned the ref. He just had a stinker. Madrid didn't do anything wrong and Ronaldo is awesome, even if United managed to neuter him for most of the match.
AndresON777
shooting blanks
hey babe i just saw this, do you want to play? i'll kill Russia with Colombia papi
The only positive from tonight.
0-0 half time
Madrid race to 9 corners
Madrid to win straight after the red card.
I'm sure I'll be happy with that return in the morning but at the moment I'd happily trade it for a time machine and a competent referee.
yes i know time machines are very expensive
I assume you weren't here when United fans were mocking City fans with "moral victory".
his first touch is disastrous. he had a few moments where he posed a threat in front of goal, but in any one of those situations, rooney would've done better.
Sviatoslav
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mocolostrocolos
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Actually, Cleverley was United's best man tonigh.
Thanks.
Looks like there was barely any contact, but Nani still flew in like Jackie Chan there, must have looke really bad from ref's angle.
Hard decision for the ref, I'd personally give a yellow, there was no intention...
First leg you were better. Second leg we were better. All in all, you weren't the ones that fucked us tonight, it was the ref. No hate for Madrid. Like I've said a bunch of times now, I want you to go on and win.
Lopez was fucking great. Pulled off four or five great saves; RVP, Vidic, Welbeck, Carrick...
Gary Neville by far the best, imo.
In all honesty that red was bullshit. If I didn't hate united so much I would be unhappy but since united are such a bunch of cunts I find it quite funny.
But how many of those weren't deserved? I mean, I don't think anyone can argue that Terry didn't deserve to be sent of in Barcelona...
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Hopefully Javier leaves United this summer. He really should have played those last ten minutes at least.
Willkiller
Banned
Congrats to Dortmund btw, I hope one of the teams through tonight wins it.
And Juventus
And Juventus
The_Hitcher89
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Hey, lets not get carried away now.
Fuck Madrid, forever and always. Even Xabi The Redeemer can't make me like that gang of cunts
Sviatoslav
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Fo sho. Shit starts on Friday. Gives you time to train. Beware of my godly legacy defending.
AndresON777
shooting blanks
I was drunk a couple of minutes a go but do you want some? Colombia is greater than that garbage you have, my love.
Yeah I was surprised he wasn't thrown on.
It'll end perfectly with you finishing with no trophies, Scott Sinclair throwing himself down the stairs in order to end up on an injury list because he isn't on the team sheets, and Mancini getting sacked and shotgunning his own brains out in the back of a pizza fan
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KidA Seven
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You're the LIverpool Kermit. I love it.
Also, no one should listen to you because you said Reina > De Gea. :lol
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