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Conte will go to Chelsea and Klopp to Juve.
Though based on that video and his English, I'd say he's the one going to Chelsea. Conte will follow Capello's steps and go to Madrid.
And then we'll end up with Ciro Ferrara. I hear he's available.
Milchmonster
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As if saying "Over the 90 minutes we were the better team." after a 5-2 loss is more respectful.
You got hit by lightning?
Lightning got hit by Liverpool gaf.
huh?
That's pretty hilarious.
Really excited for the Liverpool and Arsenal games at SJP. The amount of shit that I will talk if we win those games...
TheLucifer
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No...I can't watch. its too much pressure. Please make it Tello not Alexis.
Deportivo did it nine years ago (holy fuck it has been a while), starting from a 4-1 loss. You guys got this.
Mertesacker's really not that bad of a defender. He's just fucking slow.
Winning doesn't matter? Sounds like a ready-made Wenger replacement to me!
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Also, fuck the Europa League. What a shitty, shitty tournament. Obviously, if we're in it next year (as we almost certainly will, unless we fuck up even further), I want to get past the Round of 32 so I can cry myself to sleep knowing that, "well, at least we're better than Liverpool!" But this whole thing of it being the tournament for the losers of Europe; it's pathetic. Why on earth you should be "rewarded" for 3rd place in the CL group stage (or even finishing out of the top 4) with an extra tournament is beyond me. And your reward is a derailing of the league campaign with fixture congestion, ridiculously long trips, and zero money.
Just go back to the cup-winners or at least give the winner a CL spot.
Winning doesn't matter? Sounds like a ready-made Wenger replacement to me!
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Also, fuck the Europa League. What a shitty, shitty tournament. Obviously, if we're in it next year (as we almost certainly will, unless we fuck up even further), I want to get past the Round of 32 so I can cry myself to sleep knowing that, "well, at least we're better than Liverpool!" But this whole thing of it being the tournament for the losers of Europe; it's pathetic. Why on earth you should be "rewarded" for 3rd place in the CL group stage (or even finishing out of the top 4) with an extra tournament is beyond me. And your reward is a derailing of the league campaign with fixture congestion, ridiculously long trips, and zero money.
Just go back to the cup-winners or at least give the winner a CL spot.
Also Arsenal almost did it last year, we just can't hold what we earn at home.
TheLucifer
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And Liverpool... Goddamn, we suck big time when we lead.
KidA Seven
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Cup final last season
Vivalaraza
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Omg just seen the NLD highlights.
Arsenal's defence...
:lol :lol :lol
Arsenal's defence...
:lol :lol :lol
I know about that result, but what is his point?
that's the genius of Klopp. He hides his incredibe ambition better than all the others and maintains this narrative of him only doing it for fun and the spectacle.
This public persona has been getting less and less believable however when you watch him during and immediately after matches. When things don't go his way, not once has he actually given the impression that "That's okay".
Bet your way into one, sure thing. May I suggest you put down money on a United win. Please and thank you.
The 3DS my GF was sent by the PR company.So much nicer than my launch Aqua model.
KidA Seven
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Bayern fan pointed out Klopp complaining about Bayern after a loss. Dortmund fan replies that it's no better than what Bayern said.
Ah, makes sense, Cheers!!
Freewheelin'
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*3DS XL*
The 3DS my GF was sent by the PR company.
Think I'm going to get one when Pokemon X/Y comes out.
And yet it's still a trophy that the likes of Porto and Atletico Madrid - teams which Arsenal fans are on the level of at the very most - have shown great pride in winning. It then gives you a chance at another trophy in the Super Cup, giving you a chance at two trophies in two/three months in order to instil a winning mentality in your team and prepare them for harder European matches to come. And now look at Atletico, second in the league. Look at Porto, looking favourites for the quarters of the CL and unbeaten in the league.
The notion that Arsenal fans would turn down any chance of silverware - the Community Shield, the League Cup, the Europa League is fucking disgusting to me for two reasons.
A) it implies that they think they're better than that. When teams like Bradford and Swansea are going all out to win trophies like the League Cup because its their only realistic chance of medals, for Arsenal fans to think themselves too good for the Europa League - certainly bigger than England's league cup in terms of prestige - is ludicrous. Because it is one of only two real chances at a trophy.
B) that after 8 years without a trophy and crowing at the board, Lightning would rather try and have the best of both worlds like some selfish fuck; turn down the chance at actually winning a trophy and qualify for the CL all the while moaning about never winning trophies and not having the quality to win the CL. Why would you actively choose getting tonked by better teams just to take part in the CL over actually winning something? It's fucking ludicrous from any club. Coming from Arsenal, it's even funnier.
Fix.
I am gonna get one once Etrian Odyssey VI hits Europe.
Frustrated_me
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Well... I've grown £10 into £50 this weekend thanks to Suarez, Bale, Bayern Munich & La Galaxy. And tomorrow... FREE MONEY thanks to Bet 365.
Yeah, I always hold an affinity to my launch day products as theres nothing like getting something new and shiny but this XL... damn it's really nice to hold and although I see complaints of it looking a little Fisher Price, it certainly feels nice and weighty.
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The worst rapper? The worst rapper.
Fergie's ruled Jones out. I think we're going to see:
De Gea
Rafael - Ferdinand - Evans - Evra
Cleverley - Carrick - Kagawa
Welbeck - van Persie - Rooney
Nani/Young maybe instead of Welbeck and Giggs instead of Kagawa.
So light defensively though, fuck. Ron Ron gon' have a field day. Clev or Shinji can't do a job defensively, Ozil's gonna have all the space in the world.
We're going to lose.
De Gea
Rafael - Ferdinand - Evans - Evra
Cleverley - Carrick - Kagawa
Welbeck - van Persie - Rooney
Nani/Young maybe instead of Welbeck and Giggs instead of Kagawa.
So light defensively though, fuck. Ron Ron gon' have a field day. Clev or Shinji can't do a job defensively, Ozil's gonna have all the space in the world.
We're going to lose.
Porto and Atletico Madrid can afford to win the Europa League because they know their league campaigns are utterly meaningless. Surely it's no coincidence that the recent winners of the Europa League have all come from ridiculously unbalanced leagues; the moment Atletico realized they had a chance in the league, they crashed out in the last 32.
I'd love to make a run in the Europa League, I think Wenger has forgotten (or perhaps never knew) how to win in Europe. But it would undoubtedly come at the cost of the league campaign. Arsenal's squad barely manages handling one game a week, playing on Thursday nights and Wenger's inability to rotate will cripple this team, I am sure of that. So if it's a choice between crashing out of the Europa League early and going for a chance at being in the CL, or putting all your eggs in the Europa League basket, then... well, I'd put my eggs in the top 4 basket. The only reason good thing about the Europa League that might actually give us a decent shot at winning is the fact that they're two legged ties—so the likelihood of getting one-off results against minnows is lessened.
But it's a chance at winning, nothing more. It's opportunity cost, and goes back to the age old question of top 4 vs. trophies/winning mentality. If the squad will be strengthened in the summer for a Europa League run, even with 20m less TV revenue, then absolutely, let's make a go at the Europa League. At the very least, it'll be good to give the youngsters and fringe players a chance. But I don't think that's going to happen.
And for what it's worth, I think all this talk of Arsenal's "mental fragility" and "need to win a trophy" is really overblown. It's always been a lack of squad depth, so players are exhausted by February/March, coupled with Wenger's refusal to rotate or practice corners. The problem isn't eight trophyless years, that's just a symptom of the bigger problem: the squad isn't good enough.
Vivalaraza
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Everything Fergie is saying in the presser right now basically suggests he doesn't give a shit about the defence.
/life
God, please don't be so naive Fergus. Please. You've just watched them destroy Barca twice by playing on the counter.
Ugh we're going to lose. I know it. I can just feel it in my bones.
I think Fergie desperately wants us to be like the gung-ho, look how many we can score CL team of 98/99. Problem is a 3-3 like against Barca (both times) would knock us out ;_;
Milchmonster
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Klopp says that it's okay "if we lose playing our way". That's the point. The team has developed to the point that when we're playing our way, it's very hard to win against us. This season, we've lost more than a few games where either the ref was complete shit (fuck off Stark) or we simply didn't play our way. Thus, Klopp was pissed/angry a bit more often than in the last few seasons.
Well, Klopp didn't do a great rhetorical job but there is a tiny bit of truth in it. Bayern start to attack much earlier in midfield when the other team is in possession than last season, that's one point that is very important to Klopp's idea of football. That however is also done by lots of other teams and Klopp hardly invented it. But still, I don't think that's much worse than just outright denying a good performance of the winner by saying "We were the better team".
But the point is that a lot of shit is said after a meaningful loss, so who cares really, the media just needs headlines.
Vivalaraza
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We're going to attack.
We tried to attack Barca and played 2 in midfield against them.
No way Ferguson sends his team out on the backfoot at Old Trafford when millions are watching.
I just hope he doesn't throw caution to the wind completely. Because then we really will be fucked.
Roles will be reversed from the first leg. Madrid will sit back and counter while you attack first.
You will win.
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