LabouredSubterfuge
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Well City will be pleased at least. They'll win a trophy this year.
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Football Thread |OT16| Bacon & Dregs
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Baconsaurus Rex
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as i said earlier we would be much better with Rafael and Buttner on the wings than those clowns today.
Vivalaraza
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Wasn't just the wingers.
In fact I don't think Valencia and Young were that bad today. Nani obv was.
Carrick was poor and absolutely knackered. Cleverley was just awful. No options on the bench. CM once again suspect.
In fact I don't think Valencia and Young were that bad today. Nani obv was.
Carrick was poor and absolutely knackered. Cleverley was just awful. No options on the bench. CM once again suspect.
we're all just pretenders against Millwall.
KidA Seven
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Fergie loves playing them despite playing like shit. It's incredible. No matter how much they fuck up, they'll still play. They have no competition.
I see Luis brother.
(no idea why I made this)
There was no creativity in our side today. Nani and Valencia were poor, Clev had another shocker against Chelsea and RVP still can't score.
United are a good side but lack a player like Mata or Silva. We need one of those. And a decent midfield option from the bench. We can't keep springing a 40 year old Giggs from the bench and expect a miracle to happen.
United are a good side but lack a player like Mata or Silva. We need one of those. And a decent midfield option from the bench. We can't keep springing a 40 year old Giggs from the bench and expect a miracle to happen.
Gareth Bale
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Liverpool vs Spurs U21 game on LFC tv at the moment. Sorry if dc
Vivalaraza
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Who you talking about? The wingers?
All 3 played today. Valencia didn't even play at RM. Nani got his chance and was awful. Young didn't start.
Who else could have played there?
Only person in the squad who could have is Shinji.
Wasnt Kagawa supposed to be out Silva/Mata?
He has the potential to be our creative man, hopefully he will be well adjusted by next season and stamp his authority.
LabouredSubterfuge
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The problem is even though Nani was excreble he still looked more effective than Valencia. He still made opportunities to shoot and cross when Valencia can't even manage that. Nani gets in the right positions to receive the ball. Valencia can't even manage that. Valencia gets the ball, turns back and in turn compresses our attack and slows everything down. He not only doesn't create, he effectively ruins attacking movements. Young has a very similar problem. That's why I'd take an off form Nani over the other two. At least Nani is there trying something, even if it does fuck up.
I read it and I'll keep this short and simple as I don't want to bring an already discussed topic here. If his religion obstructs him from performing at his usual level, which will affect the club, then he should reconsider what he's doing. If it does not affect him, regardless of his religious practices (fasting, permission from coach to take a day off or whatever), then he should absolutely be allowed to play like anyone else. Again, as long as his religious duties does not affect his performance I don't see anything to complain about and certainly not when some of them celebrate after scoring a goal. Messi doing the cross-thing after scoring a goal certainly isn't affecting his performance and neither is Ba's prayer. I'm not implying that you mean this but if anything it shows what I mean.
Deserved win for Chelsea, you played great. Makes me wonder where this level of play was in the CL group stage last year. Congrats Chelsea-GAF.
Gareth Bale
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Did he score for us?
It's amazing how we've basically loaned out the whole team along with subs and are still doing good.
TBF Shinji should always play CAM. I do think Frogson needs to blood some youngsters in. Pogba nightmares again.
So frustrating when the team just fails to show up and puts in such a meek performance. I don't care if United lose to a better team after throwing everything they have got at a game, but going out of the cup after a game like that is horrible. That game was made for someone like Keane to take ahold of it and kick it up a notch.
People accused Rafa of getting his selection wrong on Staurday, but Fergie deserves just as much criticism after this performance. A stronger team with more fight would easily have beaten Chelsea, who weren't even that good anyway.
People accused Rafa of getting his selection wrong on Staurday, but Fergie deserves just as much criticism after this performance. A stronger team with more fight would easily have beaten Chelsea, who weren't even that good anyway.
Vivalaraza
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No he shouldn't because he's played there a number of times this season and not actually been all that great.
Not saying he won't be in the future but United fans fawning over Kagawa has to stop now. I love him and I'm very confident he will come good but everytime he doesn't play people are saying "Kagawa should have played".
Not sure.
Midfield was totally embarrassed today. Desperately hope we sign a creative midfielder this summer.
Edit:
Personally wanted Kagawa to go on. A creative spark.
Edit:
Personally wanted Kagawa to go on. A creative spark.
Yep. Ceballos got the goal.
We need players like hazard on the wing. Players who can take their man on and also find a pass. The wingers we have now lack the ability to play a quick passing game. They spend an eternity on the ball and end up waiting for an overlap by the fullbacks.
Kagawa should have a similar role to Silva. Start on the wing and drift inside.
Kagawa should have a similar role to Silva. Start on the wing and drift inside.
Kagawa could possibly be that kind of player but we'd need to change our system if want to get the best out of him. Fergie likes playing with two strikers, this means that we'd have to play one up front and Kagawa playing a little bit deeper as the second striker. But Fergie's preference seems to be playing with two out and out strikers which would mean Kagawa getting put out to the left where he isn't as comfortable.
We also have a problem with his performances. When United are on top and have plenty of possession than Shinji looks great. But when United as a whole start to struggle, Shinji disappears. Based on his performances so far, we need a strong side to get the best out of him. He doesn't seem to be the player that can grab the game by the neck.
I bet Arsenal and Spurs fans are happy now that Chelsea have at least 1 more game to play.
SSN just showed a Di Canio highlight reel from his time at Swindon. My word.
Here's one they showed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBCx93TCcY
SSN just showed a Di Canio highlight reel from his time at Swindon. My word.
Here's one they showed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBCx93TCcY
José Mourinho
cocknose
Great result and great goal. Always love ruining things for United.
Anyway, they have the league, so I'm sure they'll get over it.
Anyway, they have the league, so I'm sure they'll get over it.
He hasn't had the best of form this season, and it's difficult to play his game in this United set-up, but I do think he's better in the center.
LabouredSubterfuge
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No you weren't Rafa. Not even your fans think that.
KidA Seven
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I was speaking more on the whole season rather than just this game.
Shinji gets 60 minutes a game and still has 5 goals and 4 assists. Much more productive than all of our wingers. I also hear from other United fans that he has a stamina issue when it isn't true at all. He was tested with having the best one out of everyone. The team just usually plays like shit in the 2nd half and he gets yanked out first every time. It's assumed he has stamina problems because of that.
For example, you could say the following for everyone in the 2nd half, but he gets singled out because he gets subbed out first every time.
I wish redcafe still kept the total minutes stat.
Liverpool fans* believed it when they won the CL under you know who.
*The special ones.
:lol is he high?
The_Hitcher89
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Savage made me laugh with his lack of insight yesterday on MotD2.
He compiled a highlight reel to show why Lambert should be in the the England team, and why he shouldn't. It started off with a load of goals and assists/created chances wit his saying stuff like 'composure, quality, set pieces, headers, movement, strength, anticipation.' Then he got to the negatives, and basically just went 'err, he's not very quick' and the only evidence he could find was Lambert failing to score from a ball played down the line to him, with 2 covering defenders, a situation which was barely affected by his pace.
He should be in the squad. No doubt about it.
Rooney
Welbeck
Defoe
Lambert
Welbeck as a genuine striker as a last resort
That's too bad. My fiancee and I are dying for Pikmin 3.. she loved watching me play the originals. We will buy a Wii U the day it comes out.
Pikmin, Animal Crossing and The Sims are the only games she really loves although The Sims has lost its luster for her over the years. She didn't spend too much time with The Sims 3.
Whoa, when the heck did the Chelsea-Man U game even happen?! It's so early.. was it today at like noon UK time or something? Love, love, love United losing.. fans were crowing about doing the treble a few weeks ago. :lol
Holy cow, what a goal. FM wonderkid for a reason.. he's got an amazing future ahead of him.
Holy cow, what a goal. FM wonderkid for a reason.. he's got an amazing future ahead of him.
GoT shat on Walking Dead last night, wow that finale was bad for Walking Dead...
Also, you guys see the NSFW picture of the college basketball player who compound fractured his leg?
One of the worst things I've seen live in sports.... Surreal reactions from teammates, the opponents, fans, coaches and cheerleaders...
Also, you guys see the NSFW picture of the college basketball player who compound fractured his leg?
One of the worst things I've seen live in sports.... Surreal reactions from teammates, the opponents, fans, coaches and cheerleaders...
It just goes to show that the Premier League is a joke when these buffoons are dominating it.
PrematureQuiche
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That was an awesome goal by Ba. I love going to games. Happy we are through but we always struggle against City so it won't be easy at Wembley.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Sorry I can't hear you from all the way down there.
José Mourinho
cocknose
Me too, only caught the second half. My old phone would update the calendar when fixtures were scheduled/rescheduled. I absolutely relied on. Since changing phone, I've started to loose track of games. This is the first game where I've missed a bit though. Hopefully not happen again.
Anyway, going to DL the first half, although my brother informs me I didn't miss much.
Edit: United fans, you had a chance to get Hazard, and from what I understand, Ferguson wasn't willing to pay up. He said after the fact that he wasn't worth the money he went for. Given the situation a lot you seem to feel you're in. Do you guys think he would have been worth it?
I just came in to say that - that is a load of bollocks. A guy has every damn right to feel humbled and thank God for any form of success that comes his/her way. For some of us religion is a lifestyle and it can fit in every aspect of our lives as long as we don't offend others.
Just because there is a bad side to religion (like there is a bad side to everything) doesn't mean it defines any religion as a whole. Get your facts straight before you call religion a taint on sport. Especially when it is a humbling gesture of a man thanking God, in his own way without bothering ANYONE.
In my opinion a guy being thankful to God (for those who believe in God) is a wonderful gesture that does the exact opposite of tainting a sport - it is a sign of respect.
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