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Football Thread |OT20| What's that smell?

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Salvadora

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Sunderland sounds like a real fucking mess.
… a player that I could not involve in the squad for a different reason decided: 'I don't train today.' He said he had food poisoning. He made the diagnosis. Sorry, are you the doctor? The doctor tried to contact him. Three hours, he switched off his telephone. This is the situation at Sunderland."
What we saw is something really wrong, it's disgusting me even to see the image for the club," he said. "It's not about going out late with your friend and getting back at two, three o'clock, which is late but you can close one eye. But full of alcohol?

"It takes three or four days [to recover]. I realised in the morning [on Wednesday], before I had seen the picture, that I wouldn't play Phil on Sunday. I told my assistant. Why? I speak to him [Bardsley] and he look in the sky. He can't listen. He's blurry.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/19/sunderland-paolo-di-canio-players
 

Wilbur

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And still some of your fans want Wenger gone, the fucking braindead mongs
 
this is hilarious yet so uncomfortable and painful.

What's wrong with it? He gets his hand, and then moves to the other side to get Villanova's before placing them on the trophy to lift it together. Puyol actually moves away and dedicates the trophy to the both of them
 

Wilbur

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This video made me sad. What a man.

I'll never forgive the club for that. Disgusting.

Shepherd as opposed to the club, really. What a fucking wanker he was. You've been a mess since Robson went.


I'm so intrigued to see how they get on next year. It'll either be amazing or they'll go tits up in a month.
 
I'm still laughing about it. The thoughts going through his head.

"Oh cool, Puyol is bringing the trophy to me. Probably wants me to be the first to lift it, seeing as I was so important this season. Understandable"
"Oh, shit, it's Abidal! Quick, look confused and hope no-one notices!"
 

Hixx

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Some quotes from Paolo from the video I posted hours ago:

"They make that diagnosis. One player didn't go to the Academy of Light because they said: yesterday, I had a poison food. Fuck hi-- sorry. Are you the doctor!? The doctor tried to contact him - 3 hours! Switched off the telephone. This is the situation at Sunderland. This is why I tell you we made a miracle. A mee-ra-cool."

"Previously: 8 games, 3 points. With Di Canio: 7 games, 8 points. That is the miracle we made, without the strikers!"

"Maybe I gonna tell you this and tonight they're going to sack me."

"[Ellis Short] said to me: relax, don't be mad because we are going to change many things. He sounds that he supports me completely."

"If you are injured and you know that you have plan, in the morning you have treatment, in the afternoon you go in pool. You leave at lunch time and you turn your phone off all day? You have to get fined! This is not Paolo Di Canio['s rules]. When I gave him the fine in his hand the next day, he was surprised. Before, this was normal!"

"If you think after Aston Villa, we lost 6-1 if I am not wrong, we gave an appointment at 4 o'clock. Someone arrived at 4.20, like he was none(????). I could understand if the appointment was at 7am. Some sense of responsibility they have got. They live 5 minutes from Academy of Light. I was awaiting them in the corridor; 3 or 4 players arrived. By walking. I can imagine you're late, you run, say sorry. No. This was the behavior in a Premier League club. A club that every year spends millions and millions. Not acceptable."

"It will be very hard if I don't receive maximum support from the board. Because every time I know -- you know -- the player will go to the PFA, the PFA will call and you have to let them speak, you have to let them explain why. They excuse people that behave like Phil Bardsley. 'You can't fine them, let them explain, let them speak.' Why, why!? It is not the PFA that pay them, it is a private club that pays them!"

"The players will be in to train the next 2 days. Previously the players used to arrange from London to go to Hawaii or Miami, they were thinking for 4 or 5 days to arrange their bags, their wife, their boyfriend(yes), daughter. Not possible now. Together, we fly back as a team. We have a job to do with our kit sponsor tomorrow lunch time."

And while I was fucking transcribing this someone posted articles FUCK YOU BROS
 

Wilbur

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Because they want someone who actually wants to challenge the board and use some money, to you know... Maybe win something at some point. Sounds reasonable.

Except I don't think challenging the board means he'd get money to use. I was being a tad facetious with Lightning earlier, but Wenger's got them through an absolutely crucial period in regards to the stadium money and their income, and now for the first time in a few years they're fantastically equipped to use surplus. And I think considering how unpredictable the league will be next year, now is the chance to do it, and there's no one better. He's now the best manager in the league with Ferguson gone, he'll arguably still be when Mourinho arrives. We could say that he only made CL this year because Spurs bottled it, but they didnt really; lots of last minute goals, their best points tally ever. The only reason they consistently finish top four is because of Wenger, so if he does take the opportunity to spend - a big if, but if it's not this year then he never will - then I could see Arsenal having a very good year.
 

Empty

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wenger is an excellent manager but that table is a bit like being proud of yourself for getting a b in an exam because you didn't bother doing any revision
 

nemesun

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That net spending chart is absolutely frightening. How could you even compete with clubs like Man City and Chelsea in that department? It put things right into perspective.

Me and Lightning were having an intense pm discussion about this back in 2012:
nemesun said:
I've been Wenger's biggest critic since 06 and even I can see that Arsene isn't entierly at fault here. The mess we're in right now result from the accumulation of many things and not just one man's quest for self glorification.

For the past eight years, Wenger has been fighting with one hand tied behind his back on the financial front; no one can dispute that the sudden appearances of sheikhs and oligarchs transformed the game into a mean & ugly spending spree with absolutely no oversight. The financial fair play BS, won't change shit. Man City, PSG and Chelsea will always find ways to get around it by signing 900mill sponsorship deals with their cousins and aunts, and will be able to outspend us for eternity, and there is no stopping that.

What was Wenger suppose to do? We moved into a brand new stadium on the back of a front loaded sponsorship deal that hampered the club financially for the duration of its term. There were loans and mortgages to be paid and housing bubble burst that more or less put the Highbury square project into jeopardy. It has been stated time an again that in order for him to buy, he had to sell first, and add to that he had to deal with disgruntled employees that had their heads turned by the constant tapping up and tales of riches from their very own trusty agents. Why would they stay and hope for the best, when City/Chelsea were more than happy to double/triple their salary with the chance to win now rather than later?

I have serious misgivings about Wenger and some of his decisions (over 30 policy, the quality of players he brought in to replace the outgoings, lack of viable plan B, shortage of attacking options, bloody Gervinho, Chamakh/Arshavin/Squillaci still leeching off our club) but I sure as hell won't side with bunch of yanks who know fuck all about football and only in it for a big payday over a man who dedicated his life to this club and the beautiful game.
 

Wilbur

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wenger is an excellent manager but that table is a bit like being proud of yourself for getting a b in an exam because you didn't bother doing any revision

I'd be fucking delighted with that!

That net spending chart is absolutely frightening. How could you even compete with clubs like Man City and Chelsea in that department? It put things right into perspective.

Me and Lightning were having an intense pm discussion about this back in 2012:

This is a good post.


Andres?
 

Scum

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Some quotes from Paolo from the video I posted hours ago:

"They make that diagnosis. One player didn't go to the Academy of Light because they said: yesterday, I had a poison food. Fuck hi-- sorry. Are you the doctor!? The doctor tried to contact him - 3 hours! Switched off the telephone. This is the situation at Sunderland. This is why I tell you we made a miracle. A mee-ra-cool."

"Previously: 8 games, 3 points. With Di Canio: 7 games, 8 points. That is the miracle we made, without the strikers!"

"Maybe I gonna tell you this and tonight they're going to sack me."

"[Ellis Short] said to me: relax, don't be mad because we are going to change many things. He sounds that he supports me completely."

"If you are injured and you know that you have plan, in the morning you have treatment, in the afternoon you go in pool. You leave at lunch time and you turn your phone off all day? You have to get fined! This is not Paolo Di Canio['s rules]. When I gave him the fine in his hand the next day, he was surprised. Before, this was normal!"

"If you think after Aston Villa, we lost 6-1 if I am not wrong, we gave an appointment at 4 o'clock. Someone arrived at 4.20, like he was none(????). I could understand if the appointment was at 7am. Some sense of responsibility they have got. They live 5 minutes from Academy of Light. I was awaiting them in the corridor; 3 or 4 players arrived. By walking. I can imagine you're late, you run, say sorry. No. This was the behavior in a Premier League club. A club that every year spends millions and millions. Not acceptable."

"It will be very hard if I don't receive maximum support from the board. Because every time I know -- you know -- the player will go to the PFA, the PFA will call and you have to let them speak, you have to let them explain why. They excuse people that behave like Phil Bardsley. 'You can't fine them, let them explain, let them speak.' Why, why!? It is not the PFA that pay them, it is a private club that pays them!"

"The players will be in to train the next 2 days. Previously the players used to arrange from London to go to Hawaii or Miami, they were thinking for 4 or 5 days to arrange their bags, their wife, their boyfriend(yes), daughter. Not possible now. Together, we fly back as a team. We have a job to do with our kit sponsor tomorrow lunch time."

And while I was fucking transcribing this someone posted articles FUCK YOU BROS
I wish Di Canio the best of luck. What a fucking mess! D:
 
Except I don't think challenging the board means he'd get money to use. I was being a tad facetious with Lightning earlier, but Wenger's got them through an absolutely crucial period in regards to the stadium money and their income, and now for the first time in a few years they're fantastically equipped to use surplus. And I think considering how unpredictable the league will be next year, now is the chance to do it, and there's no one better. He's now the best manager in the league with Ferguson gone, he'll arguably still be when Mourinho arrives. We could say that he only made CL this year because Spurs bottled it, but they didnt really; lots of last minute goals, their best points tally ever. The only reason they consistently finish top four is because of Wenger, so if he does take the opportunity to spend - a big if, but if it's not this year then he never will - then I could see Arsenal having a very good year.

Someone call avaya on this mofo.

Next year we will sit here and say the exact same things though. "Maybe next season", all while whoever kids Arsenal players manages to become real good escapes to City and Barcelona while the club owners are more busy making a profit.

Wenger was a good manager.
 

Wilbur

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Someone call avaya on this mofo.

Next year we will sit here and say the exact same things though. "Maybe next season", all while whoever kids Arsenal players manages to become real good escapes to City and Barcelona while the club owners are more busy making a profit.

Probably. But I can't think of anyone better to defy that than Wenger. If they sack Wenger, they're not automatically going to give a new man more money, that's nonsense.
 
I'm still laughing about it. The thoughts going through his head.

"Oh cool, Puyol is bringing the trophy to me. Probably wants me to be the first to lift it, seeing as I was so important this season. Understandable"

Come out guys, lay off the Song hate. He was just mesmerized by the trophy. After all, it's the first one he's ever come close to touching.
 

Wilbur

Banned
Pirlo turned 34 today. :(

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His body turned 70 approximately 7 years ago.

His mind is still 20 though, so it's cool. God, I love Pirlo. When he's gone, the three great midfield artists of the last few decades will all be over :(

Zidane, gone. Scholes, gone. Pirlo... pls stay
 

Hixx

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You know how people like to say referees love to be the centre of attention? Hard to disagree. Mark Halsey retired from refereeing yesterday and after the game he comes out with this:

"It was a great reception I got at the end, unbelievable. I never thought I'd get that and it shows the respect I've got. It was just absolutely magnificent.

"I don't think I have seen a referee get something like that before. I wasn't expecting it, not at all. At Man City I think the fans have got an affinity with me.They think I helped put them back on the map in 1999 in that play-off final at Wembley."

Mark pls
 
That net spending chart is absolutely frightening. How could you even compete with clubs like Man City and Chelsea in that department? It put things right into perspective.

Me and Lightning were having an intense pm discussion about this back in 2012:
Great post, I agree. If we want to compete again, the board (as shit as they are) must give Wenger the £100m or so from the kit deal and he will spend it on players HE wants. It's not entirely Wenger's fault, like you said.
 
Probably. But I can't think of anyone better to defy that than Wenger. If they sack Wenger, they're not automatically going to give a new man more money, that's nonsense.

Of course not. But they won't be stuck with a man that is still stuck in the 90's, Wenger is a huge part of the problem of not being willing to spend what is obviously necessary. But really I don't care much about Arsenal, I hope they will keep on being a sub top feeder club.
 

Hixx

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Great post, I agree. If we want to compete again, the board (as shit as they are) must give Wenger the £100m or so from the kit deal and he will spend it on players HE wants. It's not entirely Wenger's fault, like you said.

Even if they do... you don't get that £100m up front.
 

Wilbur

Banned
You know how people like to say referees love to be the centre of attention? Hard to disagree. Mark Halsey retired from refereeing yesterday and after the game he comes out with this:

"It was a great reception I got at the end, unbelievable. I never thought I'd get that and it shows the respect I've got. It was just absolutely magnificent.

"I don't think I have seen a referee get something like that before. I wasn't expecting it, not at all. At Man City I think the fans have got an affinity with me.They think I helped put them back on the map in 1999 in that play-off final at Wembley."

Mark pls

Stuck up his own arse haha. Made some nice comments about his battle with cancer, but he said it like he's the only fucking person to do it.
 
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