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Don't blame you, they've probably had about 35 managers since 2004.
Pulga pls. I am FootballGAF isco #1 fan. From u17 wc and Valencia's bench to now.
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Football Thread |OT20| What's that smell?
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Don't blame you, they've probably had about 35 managers since 2004.
Pulga pls. I am FootballGAF isco #1 fan. From u17 wc and Valencia's bench to now.
You could've used that exact justification last season to say that any Bayern player should jump ship to Dortmund, and look at the situation now. Football doesn't work that way. If a rival is better than you for eight months you don't just jump ship.
Well, you do if you're Mario Gotze.
There is only one excusable thing about Götze's move so far, and only one thing that can make it redeemable; respectively the fact he'll get to work under Guardiola and the apparent fact he's a fan of Bayern.
I certainly don't think Guardiola is any better than Klopp as a coach, but there's certainly a mythology about him now that means players will be keen to work with him, much as I can imagine Kagawa wanted to work under Ferguson after both having enjoyed time under Klopp. Similarly I can see Lukaku wanting to work under Klopp and I can also see him wanting to stay to work under Mourinho. The cult of the manager, despite what poor misguided confuziz tells us as his students eat raw chicken and pencils for lunch, is a strong one.
If he was a fan of the club, then there's no explanation necessary, because that's everyone's dream and I can excuse him for that.
Otherwise, it's tactless, disrespectful and ill timed in almost every other aspect.
I certainly don't think Guardiola is any better than Klopp as a coach, but there's certainly a mythology about him now that means players will be keen to work with him, much as I can imagine Kagawa wanted to work under Ferguson after both having enjoyed time under Klopp. Similarly I can see Lukaku wanting to work under Klopp and I can also see him wanting to stay to work under Mourinho. The cult of the manager, despite what poor misguided confuziz tells us as his students eat raw chicken and pencils for lunch, is a strong one.
If he was a fan of the club, then there's no explanation necessary, because that's everyone's dream and I can excuse him for that.
Otherwise, it's tactless, disrespectful and ill timed in almost every other aspect.
now it's getting ridiculous
No Ongenda or Coman for you!!!!
pulga
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What's so promising about it? You've just let a fantastic coach go in favor of bringing in a man who's never coached a team without the best player in the world in it. It could go terribly wrong.
fuck, that even made me sad
Why?
Dortmund were better than Bayern last season. Flip Felipe's logic and it adds up. Well, actually, as I'm arguing, it doesn't.
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The_Hitcher89
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Do you reckon we'll ever get a big transfer between Man Utd and Liverpool? Even though we're not rivals in the truest sense of the word and haven't been for a long time, you guys (thankfully) still kicked up a huge stink when we tried signing Heinze
Beautiful.
Sleeplessnights
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Lol this video I saw when I was in highschool, I've made a few videos for him too.
Arnie should add you to the UnitedBros list.
Borussia won the title and still owned Bayern when it was face-to-face, but they weren't ultimately better. Bayern still reached a CL final and were ahead of Borussia for a long time in the table.
There wasn't a big gap in any terms. Many would've said Bayern still had a better squad, but Klopp was the big differencial.
LabouredSubterfuge
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lol at that Major Nelson interview - the answers are copy pasted from the MS FAQ:
and Marco Reus?
Do you reckon we'll ever get a big transfer between Man Utd and Liverpool? Even though we're not rivals in the truest sense of the word and haven't been for a long time, you guys (thankfully) still kicked up a huge stink when we tried signing Heinze
I hope not; it wouldn't please me to see anyone that's spend an extended period of time at United and breathed in the air that makes United United, actively want to play for Liverpool. And likewise; it would just smack of a lack of emotion when connected to the club or the sport. Maybe that's a good thing, but I'm a sentimental cunt.
Never thought my computer screen could almost swallow me.
Lol.
You're clutching at straws with this one.
Monchengladbach exist on a completely different level to Dortmund; Reus left to win league titles and European cups. He's achieved one of those things, he might well achieve the other on Saturday.
Sorry, here's a less obtrusive gif that perfectly responds to your quote:
FootballFan
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Adriano renewed his contract til 2017.
Not bad. He does his job of filling in well enough. Just hope we don't get so many injuries that he starts most the time.
Not bad. He does his job of filling in well enough. Just hope we don't get so many injuries that he starts most the time.
The_Hitcher89
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Same. We'll take Vidic though, at a push
I think I could accept a player moving between us if they were a youth/reserve, or if they'd only been at the club for a year or so. Thinking about it, I don't recall anyone except for Owen who's played for both of us, even with one or more clubs in between.
U wot m8
League progress is always the best indicator of a team's quality. By this argument, Chelsea were a better team than Bayern last year.
FootballFan
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Lol this video I saw when I was in highschool, I've made a few videos for him too.
Arnie should add you to the UnitedBros list.
Hell no, don't think a United-bro would be a Rafa fan and want Liverpool to win the league would they? Haha.
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Also, can I see these videos you made?
Milchmonster
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To be fair to the kid he told the team he wanted to leave a couple of months ago so he didnt know they would be in the final. And lets face it as much as I want Dortmund to win, Bayern are probably the best team in Europe right now.
Yeah, the way richer clubs gut teams that develop talent is gut wrenching for fans. But all our clubs have done it including Dortmund.
Same. We'll take Vidic though, at a push
I think I could accept a player moving between us if they were a youth/reserve, or if they'd only been at the club for a year or so. Thinking about it, I don't recall anyone except for Owen who's played for both of us, even with one or more clubs in between.
Yeah, if they haven't been here long term then I wouldn't be necessarily worried, but what Owen did was pretty fucking low in my book. I'll always be grateful he scored that goal against City, but I wish it was almost anyone else that did.
If anyone brings up RVP as an example, then get fucked loooool. Arsenal have only been rivals due to similar quality in the last two decades, not actual rivals like I consider Liverpool and City.
The_Hitcher89
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Did Fry just reveal that he's one of those 'on-paper' knobends who think that Spurs are better than Arsenal?
Kagawa was the reason, I cant believe how many times he saved their asses in the second half of the season. What a player! I wonder what happened to him this season... hm...
KidA Seven
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No way were Bayern considered the better team last season or Dortmund's equal. Dortmund had just won the title the season before and maintained their superiority by beat Bayern in the league and cup.
If Bayern with two titles this season but Dortmund win the champion's league, I would still consider Bayern as being the better team. Although, Dortmund will get bragging rights, like you guys would have had last season had you guys won.
Broder Salsa
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They were.
Baconsaurus Rex
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Did Wilbury make that gif?Sorry, just for clarity.
FootballFan
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Oh right I forgot to post it here.
Auckland City are going to the Club World Cup again! They had to beat Waitakere City to qualify. Won 2-1.
What a moment.
Auckland City are going to the Club World Cup again! They had to beat Waitakere City to qualify. Won 2-1.
What a moment.
they go every damn year lol
Joined a title winning side under a legendary manager that wasnt a direct rival and was a good boy dat did wot his daddy telled him too.
You finished behind Newcastle.
Alan Pardew's Newcastle.
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KidA Seven
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Being ahead for a period of time doesn't mean anything.
And then in the end finished up behind them in the table.
Learn to have a coherent thought.
Still doesn't mean they were ultimately a better team.
Do you think United are ultimately better than City or even Chelsea?
pulga
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You've been outed, Arnold.
City was better than United last year, right?
The_Hitcher89
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Meaningless. Man Utd were better than us in 08/09, Man City were better than Man Utd last season and Madrid were better than Barca last season. The end result is all that matters if you want to use words like 'ultimately,' unless there are an exceptional amount of dodgy decisions or docked points effecting the results
pulga
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What do fuck are you even arguing anymore? Of course they're the better team, just like BVB was the better team when they blasted Bayern two years straight.
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