Baconsaurus Rex
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Well that means you have to finish it in one go doesn't it?
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Well that means you have to finish it in one go doesn't it?
I don't understand you guys. You have the PSV expert right here and I've told you several times what kind of player Strootman is.
In reality, he is the player you need. I don't like United, but that's the truth. He is a dynamic central midfielder that closes the gap between the defense and the offense. Perfect player for counterplay as well.
He has the willpower of Suarez (in a good way), the calmness of Xavi/Iniesta and he can deliver passes like Pirlo. He isn't the fastest around but he compensates that by good positioning and good marking. He fights for every battle and wants to win every match no matter what.
Don't listen to bud or other people. I've seen him play around 70-80 times, including 3 (or 4) times live at the PSV Stadium. I know what I'm talking about.
In reality, he is the player you need. I don't like United, but that's the truth. He is a dynamic central midfielder that closes the gap between the defense and the offense. Perfect player for counterplay as well.
He has the willpower of Suarez (in a good way), the calmness of Xavi/Iniesta and he can deliver passes like Pirlo. He isn't the fastest around but he compensates that by good positioning and good marking. He fights for every battle and wants to win every match no matter what.
Don't listen to bud or other people. I've seen him play around 70-80 times, including 3 (or 4) times live at the PSV Stadium. I know what I'm talking about.
I wouldn't go as far to as as far superior. He could be better but not by a whole lot and not at the price being thrown around. Agreed that Jones and Giggs shouldn't be allowed near CM. If we got him for sub-£10m maybe it'd be worth a gamble but I'd rather see someone like Felliani who is a known quantity in the PL. For someone from the Dutch league to come into our midfield and start they'd have to be running the show, which Strootman doesn't appear to do at PSV.
I'd be interested to hear Eredivise fans views on him. I know we've had them before but I've forgotten who has said what about him.
Baconsaurus Rex
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Strootz is totally overrated
Thank your for your interesting biased opinion.
Cheers, interesting to read from a PSV fans perspective.
His opinion is as valid as yours, both will have some degree if bias.
Baconsaurus Rex
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I agree with what you said
a little
a little
Tbh I feel he didn't grow since he left Utrecht.
The Strootman that controlled the game vs Ajax in that season has never been seen again if you ask me.
Oh, I AM biased though, just a tiny little bit...
Vivalaraza
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Fellaini is a known quantity but remember he cost £16m from Standard Liege and had achieved much less than Strootman already has.
Add to the fact that Fellaini is a poor footballer in comparison to somebody like Strootman. Not awful but much more clanky.
I agree with KidA when he says we need somebody to give us a spark and that would be the other midfield player I'd like us to buy. But we do need another good defensive player who is good on the break and in possession.
Tbh, last season he was playing with a guy that was over his top (van Bommel) and 2 guys (Wijnaldum/Toivonen) that add nothing to any team what so ever (except some goals).
He is doing all the work on his own. In an intelligent team with good spirit he can develop himself and be a leader on the field. It will work out just fine.
achieved less how?
Fellaini cost 15m for a club with far less disposable income coming from a poorer league.
Confuziz's post is far more valuable than yours, mine or anyone else's on Strootman; biased it may be but there's no reason to believe there's a delusion behind it. I want him, and for 17m I'd take him. Is he worth that? No. But then Fernandinho isn't worth 34m, but it was worth it to improve the team immeasurably. If we have the money we should spend it. To say you'd rather give youth a chance to play there... who? Fucking Tunnicliffe? No no
Gervinho was robbed.
Vivalaraza
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Strootman plays in a better quality league in a good team and is their key player. He's highly rated by the Dutch national team and is touted to be the teams future captain.
Fellaini came for a worse league and cost £16m. It's not that crazy to pay £17m for Strootman and he has as much if not more potential than Fellaini had then.
I don't think it's an incredible deal which screams value for money but it's not a bad shout at all.
Who would you like to see us sign in midfield btw?
The only reason there is so much talk is because they all know the transfer is not going to happen this summer. They are laying the groundwork for next year where there is a more realistic chance of Bale pushing for the move.
Spurs are being linked with every midfielder under the sun this week. Barry, Bernard, Paulinho, Strootman, can we just sign one of these people already so we can shift Livermore and Parker?
Gareth Bale
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Strootman Strootman Strootman Strootman Strootman
Thiago
Ahahaha
Vivalaraza
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If we get Strootman and Thiago I'll do something crazy like touch a slice of ham.
Vivalaraza
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Only just found out Froggie put Adnan on the bench in his last game.
FUCK how could I miss that magical moment in the clubs history.
FUCK how could I miss that magical moment in the clubs history.
Have a bit of a soft spot for De Gea now:
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-n...ake-man-city-switchby-man-united-star-199663?
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-n...ake-man-city-switchby-man-united-star-199663?
Vivalaraza
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How can you not have a soft spot for De Goat. He's wonderful.
KidA Seven
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You didn't watch the game? He would have played if the defense didn't fuck up so much. Fergie said something to him as he went back to the bench.
He really needs to shave off that sorry excuse for a beard. Someone should tell him.
Vivalaraza
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No I missed it I was walking around a box at the time. Man that sucks how awesome would that have been.
Maybe his gf likes it.
Isn't this the fifth of sixth time she's left the band?
Yeah, not that shocked. As long as I get a chance to see the Pixies live some day. I missed them a couple of years ago so I'm still waiting
Probably! The Breeders touring again this summer, so I guess she doesn't need to tour with Pixies anymore.
Looks like QOTSA might be coming to Dublin and Belfast in November, though they don't mention those dates on their FB.
Yes Strootman plays in a better quality league relative to when Felliani was at Liège, but Felliani only spent two seasons there and has been at Everton ever since playing in a much, much better league. Directly comparing what two players have achieved playing in different leagues is too limited a scope and even then Belgium are only two places behind Holland in the league rankings.
Felliani was a gamble in a lot of ways for Everton to spend that amount of money on him, and I don't think it's the sort of risk a club like United should be taking. As for who I'd like to see us sign... I do believe we need a sort of box to box player who can break down attacks and then turn that into an attack for the team (which of course Strootman can do) but unless PSV were to significantly drop their asking price there is no point looking at him. Who it could be that would represent value now (and for the future) I will hold my hands up and say I don't know.
I concur that Confuziz's post is more valuable that mine or another United fans but more than anyone else? No. Other who watch the Dutch league week in week out are equally as good. I never said that his post was delusional, only that there will be a certain element of bias in it coming from a PSV fan. I could of course end up being wrong about this but I don't see Strootman immeasurably changing the team and the idea of spending money just because we have some to throw around is foolish.
As for youth I still class Cleverly and Anderson into that department (just about) and whilst Anderson may be injury prone when he's fit and available he rarely gets a proper run in the team. Tunnicliffe won't make it, you're right about that. Will most likely end up in League One somewhere. Charni Ekangamene could be a decent prospect but might be too young yet.
Broder Salsa
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Except the part where it was written by Confuziz.
Vivalaraza
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:lol
We'll always have Bam Thwok
The_Hitcher89
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Rodgers is one creepy motherfucker. Love it.
Not playing TLoU until they've patched it.
Not playing TLoU until they've patched it.
Strootman isn't really a box-to-box midfielder imo, more a defensive midfielder.
My totally unbiased opinion on a good box-to-box midfielder for the Premier League midtable or just below the top-4 :
Same here. So excited to get home only to find out it's bugged. Oh well, I can always play with my new smart tv and nexus tablet.
Vivalaraza
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Pellegrini confirmed now.
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