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Evening Standard: Arsenal star Mesut Ozil removed from Pro Evolution Soccer in China
Goal.com : Ozil deleted from China's FIFA & Pro Evolution Soccer video games after Uighur Muslim comments

WashPo: Arsenal star Mesut Özil draws China’s wrath after criticizing treatment of Muslim Uighurs
The Guardian: Mike Pompeo backs Mesut Özil in criticism of China's Uighur persecution

Mesut Ozil has been removed from all three versions of the game Pro Evolution Soccer in China over his stance against the nation's treatment of its Uighur Muslim population.

Reports from human rights groups alleged that around 1 million people - including Uighur Muslims - were being kept in prison camps against their will in the region of Xinjiang, prompting Ozil to speak out on Twitter last week.

Chinese state TV pulled the screening of Arsenal's game against Manchester City at the weekend, while most references to Ozil have been removed from the internet in China.

Now, NetEase - which publishes Pro Evolution in China - have announced they have removed Ozil from all three of their games in the country and said his comments on the plight of Uighur Muslims "hurt the feelings of Chinese fans and violated the sport's spirit of love and peace. We do not understand, accept or forgive this!"

The Chinese government have accused Ozil of being "blindfolded by fake news", while Arsenal moved quickly to distance themselves from his comments stating the club was 'apolitical'.

The Premier League has vast financial interest in China given their lucrative broadcast deal, worth £564million, and numerous commercial partners and investors based in the country.

For some context Arsenal has been very active in China in the past few years and even opened up a restaurant in Shangai a year or so ago.

 

[Mista]

So its fake news yeah? Then don’t remove him and tell him that it’s wrong. China and all those football games can fuck off

I find the news hard to believe but again, in today’s world everything is possible.

 

[Teslerum]

Funnily enough Arsenal didn’t support him on this.

While constantly endorsing Bellerins bullshit. (Including a recent #FuckBoris tweet and of course the LQBTQ+ the FA is pushing in general)

And both SHOULD FOCUS ON THE FUCKING FOOTBALL not tweeting political shit.

 

[TeamGhobad]

i dont want to get into politics but the Uigers are basically chinese people that were raped by Djingiz Khan. Infact all turkic people came from the conquest of Djingiz. the first historical reference to turks came in 1200 AD...in short the land belonged to the chinese first and if you want to be a turk move to turkey. i hope i don't get banned for this but the western media has been very one-sided in reporting this issue.

 

[Trojita]

but the western media has been very one-sided in reporting this issue.

How do you both sides "reeducation" concentration camps with possibly a million people in them?

 

[TeamGhobad]

How do you both sides "reeducation" concentration camps with possibly a million people in them?

they are a separatist group that want to annex the land and create their own country. the fact that they are muslim and turkic is just a coincidence. i don't like it i dont agree with it but i understand why they do it. its no difference than spain denying the catalonians or the basque their own country its just china is being way more aggressive about it. their method was at first to move han chinese there and mix but the Uighers rejected that and had violent demontrations where they physically attacked the chinese. this was a last ditch effort by china. again dont like it but i understand it.

 

[ROMhack]

Yeah I saw this earlier. Pretty shitty but it's China, so hard-pressed to feel much surprise.

Love the people, culture, food and cute girls with glasses but the state is a totalitarian nightmare (see: Detention for other gaming related censorship).

That said, maybe this would be better in politics?

 

[Trojita]

they are a separatist group that want to annex the land and create their own country. the fact that they are muslim and turkic is just a coincidence. i don't like it i dont agree with it but i understand why they do it. its no difference than spain denying the catalonians or the basque their own country its just china is being way more aggressive about it. their method was at first to move han chinese there and mix but the Uighers rejected that and had violent demontrations where they physically attacked the chinese. this was a last ditch effort by china. again dont like it but i understand it.

30 people committed an act in an extremely authoritarian country, so they lock up 1 million of them not related to what happened?

 

[TLZ]

i dont want to get into politics but the Uigers are basically chinese people that were raped by Djingiz Khan. Infact all turkic people came from the conquest of Djingiz. the first historical reference to turks came in 1200 AD...in short the land belonged to the chinese first and if you want to be a turk move to turkey. i hope i don't get banned for this but the western media has been very one-sided in reporting this issue.

So, in conclusion, let's rape and torture every Muslim in every non-muslim country and throw them in concentration camps, yea?

 

[Trojita]

That said, maybe this would be better in politics?

I had pondered that, but it is a character being removed from two games.

 

[ROMhack]

I had pondered that, but it is a character being removed from two games.

Oh yeah wasn't debating that part

So, in conclusion, let's rape and torture every Muslim in every non-muslim country and throw them in concentration camps, yea?

It were this part wot I meant

P.s. Banned for two weeks (Reason: backseat moderation).

 

[TeamGhobad]

So, in conclusion, let's rape and torture every Muslim in every non-muslim country and throw them in concentration camps, yea?

this is why i don't like talking politics in general. because of childish people like you.

 

[Trojita]

this is why i don't like talking politics in general. because of childish people like you.

Bruv you were heavily implying that the problems the Uighurs are facing today is because of something that happened almost a millenia ago, as well as telling them to move to Turkey if they want "to be a turk".

 

[TLZ]

this is why i don't like talking politics in general. because of childish people like you.

The only childish ignorant rubbish was spouted by yourself. Don't even try. And it's very obvious.

 

[TeamGhobad]

Bruv you were heavily implying that the problems the Uighurs are facing today is because of something that happened almost a millenia ago, as well as telling them to move to Turkey if they want "to be a turk".

what do you do with a group of people in your country that don't want to assimilate and have separatist ambitions? there are no easy solutions here. but maybe if you faced such a dilemma your outlook would change, and maybe it will soon...just wait until California becomes 50%< ethnically mexican.

 

[Heebie Jeebies]

This is certainly the response of an innocent country.

i dont want to get into politics but the Uigers are basically chinese people that were raped by Djingiz Khan. Infact all turkic people came from the conquest of Djingiz. the first historical reference to turks came in 1200 AD...in short the land belonged to the chinese first and if you want to be a turk move to turkey. i hope i don't get banned for this but the western media has been very one-sided in reporting this issue.

they are a separatist group that want to annex the land and create their own country. the fact that they are muslim and turkic is just a coincidence. i don't like it i dont agree with it but i understand why they do it. its no difference than spain denying the catalonians or the basque their own country its just china is being way more aggressive about it. their method was at first to move han chinese there and mix but the Uighers rejected that and had violent demontrations where they physically attacked the chinese. this was a last ditch effort by china. again dont like it but i understand it.

Not ethnic cleansing
Not ethnic cleansing
Not ethnic cleansing

Don't compare Catalonia to Xinjiang.

 

[TeamGhobad]

Don't compare Catalonia to Xinjiang.

their methods are different, but the endgame is the same. to assimilate.

 

[Mista]

this is why i don't like talking politics in general. because of childish people like you.

That’s how you sounded you fucking cunt. I’ve always said that you’re just an idiot that writes shit without knowing shit but nobody got convinced.

Edit: Go on give me gold on this post too. Won’t change the fact that you suffer from schizophrenia

 

[lyan]

i dont want to get into politics but the Uigers are basically chinese people that were raped by Djingiz Khan. Infact all turkic people came from the conquest of Djingiz. the first historical reference to turks came in 1200 AD...in short the land belonged to the chinese first and if you want to be a turk move to turkey. i hope i don't get banned for this but the western media has been very one-sided in reporting this issue.

Belonged to the Chinese? What even is "Chinese" in the first place in a historical context, they consist of 50+ races with each dynasty coming from a totally different origin so the "Chinese" you referred has long vanished. The CCP is just the latest group that managed to own this piece of land through slaughtering 50+ millions of "Chinese" people, with no historic relevance to the conqueror of the same land centuries ago.

 

[TeamGhobad]

Belonged to the Chinese? What even is "Chinese" in the first place in a historical context, they consist of 50+ races with each dynasty coming from a totally different origin so the "Chinese" you referred has long vanished. The CCP is just the latest group that managed to own this piece of land through slaughtering 50+ millions of "Chinese" people, with no historic relevance to the conqueror of the same land centuries ago.

Well they aren't turks thats for sure.

 

[TLZ]

Well they aren't turks thats for sure.

If you really follow history and genealogy, did you not know Turks and Chinese people belong to the same ancestor?

 

[TeamGhobad]

If you really follow history and genealogy, did you not know Turks and Chinese people belong to the same ancestor?

Are you back from 30min of wikipedia?

 

[lyan]

what do you do with a group of people in your country that don't want to assimilate and have separatist ambitions? there are no easy solutions here. but maybe if you faced such a dilemma your outlook would change, and maybe it will soon...just wait until California becomes 50%< ethnically mexican.

It is not hard to understand why they want to separate when you strip off their right to even worship whatever god they like.

 

[TeamGhobad]

It is not hard to understand why they want to separate when you strip off their right to even worship whatever god they like.

that only happened recently, when their leader who btw is being protected by the US claimed sovereignty over the land. this is when the chinese acted first by flooding the area with ethnic chinese and when they were attacked they went to plan b which is this.
before this Uighers were free to roam around and do whatever they wanted.

 

[nani17]

Yet another company bows to our Chinese overloads

 

[lyan]

that only happened recently, when their leader who btw is being protected by the US claimed sovereignty over the land. this is when the chinese acted first by flooding the area with ethnic chinese and when they were attacked they went to plan b which is this.
before this Uighers were free to roam around and do whatever they wanted.

you forget that most of their land's ownership were taken off from them soon after the CCP came to power.

 

[TLZ]

Are you back from 30min of wikipedia?

Nope. Took me a nanosecond of brainwork.

 

[TeamGhobad]

you forget that most of their land's ownership were taken off from them soon after the CCP came to power.

same with eveyone else, your point? in rural areas like that with no natural resources and an uneducated population socialism works to their benefit.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

The only thing that triggers me even more than SJW and PC bullshit is people defending totalitarianism and facism.

@topic: I wonder why Ozil didn't speak up when Christians and Kurds got killed by the turkish regime in Syria for no other than racist reasons.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Didn't expect drama in this thread, but I got it, and that makes me happy.

 

[lyan]

same with eveyone else, your point? in rural areas like that with no natural resources and an uneducated population socialism works to their benefit.

So they treat everyone like shit then some are not happy and want to separate, and so you think well what better can they do than putting them in concentration camps?
Well I'm done here LOL.

 

[Great Hair]

Now, all we need is to find us a new Gene Wilder and Hollywod can finally remake Young Frankenstein. As soon as Ozil retires ...

Excuse me! im eating.

 

[TeamGhobad]

So they treat everyone like shit then some are not happy and want to separate, and so you think well what better can they do than putting them in concentration camps?
Well I'm done here LOL.

their separatist ambitions has nothing do with china or ccp. and everything to do with pan-turkism. i never defended the camps. try reading what i write instead of spewing misinformation.

 

[lyan]

their separatist ambitions has nothing do with china or ccp. and everything to do with pan-turkism. i never defended the camps. try reading what i write instead of spewing misinformation.

"what do you do with a group of people in your country that don't want to assimilate and have separatist ambitions? there are no easy solutions here.

This to me is defending something that should undoubtedly be condemned.

 

[TeamGhobad]

This to me is defending something that should undoubtedly be condemned.

unchecked open rebellion always leads to more death. it was a pre-emptive strike on the part of the chinese. if u dont believe me google ETA.

 

[DeliciousDoc]

When the British tried it with the French people in Canada they obviously didn't go far enough. We should have been gassed so no one would have to learn French in Canada. Amateurs.

 

[Greedings]

You can only speak truth to power when that power is a western democracy with a leader who was voted in by the people.

 

[Moses85]

Özil had to be removed from all deutsche Nationalmannschaft versions of FIFA and official DFB Commercials etc. as well. Such a moron.

 

[01011001]

i dont want to get into politics but the Uigers are basically chinese people that were raped by Djingiz Khan. Infact all turkic people came from the conquest of Djingiz. the first historical reference to turks came in 1200 AD...in short the land belonged to the chinese first and if you want to be a turk move to turkey. i hope i don't get banned for this but the western media has been very one-sided in reporting this issue.

well I would ban you for this, the sheer stupidity of the comment alone is worth getting a ban for tbh.

 

[TeamGhobad]

well I would ban you for this, the sheer stupidity of the comment alone is worth getting a ban for tbh.

get the elders together maybe you can impeach me, this is how cancel culture works with you snowflakes.

 

[spons]

Who gives a shit, anyway? Let the Chinese figure out China. Not my problem. Degenerate cunts.

 

[Senhua]

get the elders together maybe you can impeach me, this is how cancel culture works with you snowflakes.

Just leave the thread and ignore this kind of thread in the future. It's pointless to debate about democracy and freedom with western people especially inmature American. They only think:
- Autocracy : Bad
- Democary: Good
without to try understand about the country / people / history and the culture.

Even managing one country with 75% of more people and 2,2% more land comparably with other is cleary different (Look at the great USSR when they adopt democary)

 

[Trojita]

Just leave the thread and ignore this kind of thread in the future. It's pointless to debate about democracy and freedom with western people especially inmature American. They only think:
- Autocracy : Bad
- Democary: Good
without to try understand about the country / people / history and the culture.

Even managing one country with 75% of more people and 2,2% more land comparably with other is cleary different (Look at the great USSR when they adopt democary)

Your avatar is from a series with an autocracy led by TRIGGER aliens that is awful. Are you trolling?

02 would be ashamed of you.

 

[TeamGhobad]

deducting political affiliations based on avatars...

 

[Inanilmaz]

The only thing that triggers me even more than SJW and PC bullshit is people defending totalitarianism and facism.

@topic: I wonder why Ozil didn't speak up when Christians and Kurds got killed by the turkish regime in Syria for no other than racist reasons.

Or how the Israel regime kills innocent children in gaza etc. with chemical and biological weapons

 

[Jill Valentine]

Discussion did get me thinking about Ozil's motivations in this. Serious question; What should the CCP do with regards to the Uyghurs? Reading the thread I can see they are between a rock and a hard place. You have a ethnic group of 10 million sitting in 600k square miles that don't particularly like you. Uyghur independence? Should they leave? If they just leave them be what will eventually happen? My only concern for the Uyghurs ends at hating Marxists at any opportunity, and them being an opposition to the CCP is the only reason we're here. Not much else in common.

EDIT: I didn't notice this was in Gaming. I'm a bit off-topic, in a way.

 

[Little Chicken]

I wish the private sector would stop rimming China at every opportunity.

Money, I guess. Isn't it always.