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Not on the corner they're looking at, everyone went wide on the previous one.
sammyCYBORG
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So? Wide is wide.
nature boy
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They need to show the full lap onboard.
GHG
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It's not one of the corners they outlined as zero tolerance.
So get rid of everyone's time then. Re-do qualifying. Some corners you're allowed to go wide, it is what it is.
aspiegamer
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Thank God, Sky can finally shut up about RIC outperforming his teammates 100%.
brotkasten
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Vettel from P11 tomorrow. Right behind Alonso. Amazing.
sammyCYBORG
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So stupid. Either have track limits apply to all the track or none.
FIA are so annoying.
Red Bull was faster than Ferrari. Alonso was right!!!
Too bad this will fuel everyone saying VES is the second coming of Fangio, Schumacher and Senna combined.
Rain won't matter, Mercedes has insane advantage (it is even bigger after major aero development) - only tech issues can bring them down.
You gain an advantage by going wide in those corners. You don't in the others. Going wide in the other corners is a punishment in itself because your time is going to suffer. Going wide in those three courners gives you an advantage. It's that simple.
nature boy
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In WEC they certainly do, but in F1 only if you "gain an advantage".
Yep stupid contextual rules are part of the reason viewing figures are falling off a cliff.
It shouldn't be beyond the will or wit of man to say you know the track you're racing on, don't drift all four wheels off it during qualifying.
Agreed. Not complaining about Hamiltons lap as they all probably went wide there to get the advantage, but either apply the rules everywhere or don't. It's pretty stupid right now.
You can still get hit with a track limits penalty if you cut one of the other corners completely and gained a clear advantage, like if you ran straight through the esses. It's just that those highlighted corners have zero-tolerance applied to them, even if you don't gain an advantage from them.
GHG
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Rosberg will try to take Lewis out at turn 1.
I'd argue that Hamilton is actually more likely to win if it's wet (on pure driving ability), though it does up the uncertainty.
except on the 3 arbitrary corners they selected this race. Certainly on one of Magnussons laps he had screwed up the apex so much that he gained no advantage but his time got deleted.
sammyCYBORG
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Yup I don't care who does or doesn't get penalised it's just retarded to have inconsistent rules.
nature boy
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No one can fucking explain this off-track nonsense.
A track is a track, just apply what WEC and other series do.
A track is a track, just apply what WEC and other series do.
So, if you lock up and run wide and lose time, your entire lap should be deleted too?
Why does it have to be some sort of binary system? I don't understand what the problem with having a nuanced system where you get penalised for gaining an advantage.
I think everything worked perfectly well today.
Yes. I'm not sure what the issue would be with that. It would benefit the better drivers and maybe it would get them out of the we will only run the twice a session mind set.
nature boy
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If it's a quali lap, yes it should be deleted if they went off and didn't lift off.
In race, warnings plus penalty if they continue to go off.
It's not rocket science.
Ultimately, the drivers and teams have regular meetings with race control and they are all told, very clearly, 'THIS is what will be allowed, THIS is what WON'T be allowed'.
They all know the rules. As long as the penalties and time deletions are in accordance with what the drivers were told before the session - which everything seems to indicate is the case - what is the issue? It seems really simple and reasonable to me.
They all know the rules. As long as the penalties and time deletions are in accordance with what the drivers were told before the session - which everything seems to indicate is the case - what is the issue? It seems really simple and reasonable to me.
There is no issue, it worked fine and I didn't hear a single driver complain about it.
Peter Ian Staker
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If they want drivers to respect track limits they should stop with the tarmac runoffs and really flat kerbs.
Going four wheels of track should be way more difficult.
Going four wheels of track should be way more difficult.
sammyCYBORG
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As a viewer if I didn't view this thread to see what the FIA said exactly I'd still have no idea why one lap was deleted and another wasn't.
It's not good fot viewers.
Rosberg summoned to stewards - http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rosberg-summoned-over-alleged-rules-breach-797095/
That's a problem with the FOM coverage or the individual broadcasters.
They arent the kind of teans to keep developing. By the end of year I expect McLaren to be easily the 4th team (in pace).
They tried that in Austria and we know how that turned out...
gutterboy44
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The Mercs are going to be untouchable tomorrow. Lewis's to lose, Nico's to make headlines with by doing something stupid. Come on ratchet this tension up to 11! I am expecting to see Alonso finish ahead of one of the Ferrari's tomorrow (not including a DNF).
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