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"GP2 engi... Err formula 2 engine! Formula 2 engine!!"
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A few days ago I was tempted to make a shitpost that Honda was running their engine on an isolated stand in the factory and didn't take into account what effect vibrations in an actual car would have.
Now I just read that they realized the engine is causing things to fall apart because of vibrations.
Honda is a materialized punchline.
Now I just read that they realized the engine is causing things to fall apart because of vibrations.
Honda is a materialized punchline.
Are you seriously telling me that the engine is causing the actual car itself to break down from within? Fucking hell.
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So the engine isn't just underperforming and failing, it's actually breaking the rest of the damned car.
That's actually an impressive feat.
What the... You might think this was a mistake from a first time engine builder, not from a company that has been ages in the sport.
This engine sounds like a bomb on wheels. It wouldn't surprise me at this rate if mid-way through a race, we see a Honda engine blow up and rip the back half of the car open in the process.
They're trying to take steps larger than their legs.
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I'd imagine the FIA will now want evidence that this is safe to run.
There is simply too much power in that engine
Mastah
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https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/videos/772424009581250/
1.4 million views since yesterday. Social media what, asks Bernie.
1.4 million views since yesterday. Social media what, asks Bernie.
I honestly find it hard to believe how poor that Honda engine really is. I've been a fan of Mclaren since I started watching F1 properly (mainly because I liked Jenson and Lewis tbh ). Its now got to the point of becoming painful to to see them and I cannot imagine how the rest of the McLaren team feels, to have all their hard work completely undone by a contractor for 3 years on the trot, I'd be furious.
Honda you are a literal joke step up or leave.
Honda you are a literal joke step up or leave.
JadedWriter
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Honda built a fucking Looney Tunes engine.
Jezbollah
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Honda are more than a contractor though - they're a technical and financial partner. It's not in their best interests financially or reputationally to fail - which makes all this more baffling.
Correct me if I'm wrong but back in 2015, I remember there was this big bru ha ha about Honda not employing people outside of their company into their F1 engine division because they wanted to learn it on their own, or some bullshit like that. Is it likely that's still the case here, because I don't recall anyone from outside of Honda being employed within that division, because it's definitely making them look like amateurs out there. Even Renault are getting their act back together, and they were having issues of their own in testing.
Without a doubt I'm not sure baffling is even a strong enough word.
I remember reading the same thing if they really are still being that hard headed and stupid after their failures and are still not willing to accept advice, fresh faces and ideas all I can say is they brought it all upon themselves.
With the amount of race/performance engines Honda have developed over the decades, they really shouldn't need to hire anyone else in.
I just can't fathom how they are this bad. I get that its a new engine this year and you can kind of expect some issues. But the oil tank thing? vibrations shaking the car loose? This isn't gremlins in the design, this is full on "we dun goofed".
I just can't fathom how they are this bad. I get that its a new engine this year and you can kind of expect some issues. But the oil tank thing? vibrations shaking the car loose? This isn't gremlins in the design, this is full on "we dun goofed".
I can't work it out either. They have HPD in the US that they can draw experience from, they've worked with Turbo V6s before for Endurance racing; They have the R & D department working with their racing companies to come up with new concepts; They have nearly two decades worth of experience themselves working with hybrid engines. How they could still not make a decent engine at least out of this is beyond me. I just can't believe they could drop the ball like this.
EDIT: It's also just occured to me how much morale in McLaren must be at an all time low when you realise that they were last on a podium in Australia in 2014, and haven't won a race since Jenson Button in Brazil in 2012. That's a lifetime in this sport.
EDIT: It's also just occured to me how much morale in McLaren must be at an all time low when you realise that they were last on a podium in Australia in 2014, and haven't won a race since Jenson Button in Brazil in 2012. That's a lifetime in this sport.
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Someone get Wax! We need Wax to make sense of all this!
WOW! TIL Rosberg has retired!! I was so confused seeing Bottas on that time sheet (thinking at first that he was a reserve driver, which I thought was such a waste). I know everyone wants to retire when on top but I felt there were at least a few more good if not great years left for him in the game. I'm going to miss him. Anyone know what is he planning to do next?
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Ah, thank you. Hopefully, he will un-retire into another form of motorsport ala Raikkonen or Montoya in the near future.
I know it's F1 thread, but HOLY SHIT DUCATI :O
Ooooooooohhhhhh.......... That's a really cool bike.
JadedWriter
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I honestly think he's done. He's a family man now.
He's gonna start his own team, Rosberg Racing, or RBR for short.
nekkid
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Couldn't get any worthwhile F1 names, no?
Two WDC's and a runner up WDC, not exactly bottom of the barrel, are they?
nekkid
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Retired, Formula 2 car, pretends to be retired.
Peter Ian Staker
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That's not how motorsport works.
When you enter motorsport you always look to get the best people for the job.
When Mercedes first entered F1 as an engine supplier they didn't just give a bunch of AMG engineers the project and hoped for the best because they knew this isn't what they do. They bought Ilmor and hired a lot of people that knew better to get their project going.
Meanwhile McLaren is basically begging Honda to hire external help but they are too stupid to shallow their pride and accept that their own engineers are not up to the task.
You can't be successful in motorsport with a company culture like that.
Is anyone really surprised? It's the Japanese way. Toyota's biggest failing was that they never hired outside of Japan.
I can't help but hope that after all these official F1 videos they're publishing on Facebook and their website, that when the broadcasting contracts are up we might get an F1/FIA standalone yearly-streaming pass, hopefully with tonnes of extras. It's really all I want from F1 now.
I can buy a WEC/Le Mans pass and have access to hundreds of hours of fantastic content and information, I really want the same from F1.
I can't help but hope that after all these official F1 videos they're publishing on Facebook and their website, that when the broadcasting contracts are up we might get an F1/FIA standalone yearly-streaming pass, hopefully with tonnes of extras. It's really all I want from F1 now.
I can buy a WEC/Le Mans pass and have access to hundreds of hours of fantastic content and information, I really want the same from F1.
He's talking about Honda but referencing Toyota's underachievement as a factory team in part because of their similar work culture.
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