Black_Stride
made a list of games with supposedly great combat mechanics that can be cheesed, maybe you wanna take a look at that before we go even further on what make a combat system shit or not.
I didn't even tried 1\4 of what he say so he may be more expert than me on how to cheese games but i hardly ever had games where cheesing was impossible, even in games with super aggressive enemies, you always find a way if you want.
In other games like Souls and Dragon's Dogma your character usually is either the same speed or slower than the enemies, and even if you can run faster you usually have a stamina bar limiting your movement.
Dragons Dogma?
One of my favorite games of all time.....when the sequel was announced I lost my shit, the hopeful man in me thought it was going to be a remake/remaster....a full on sequel.....sweet jesus.
But
I take it you never played the Mystic Knight?
Why run away when I can just get enchanted with whatever the enemy is weak too....if i even care ill be invincible in a second anyway...... stand still drop two orbs and/or two sigil, use my riposte and literally let the game play itself.
The Mystic Knight in Dragons Dogma was so broken and it was obviously broken cuz the game even told you mate if you mix these skills youll be OP.
It just didnt tell me I would literally never take damage for the rest of the game.
I ended up forcing myself not to use the Orbs/Sigil/Riposte unless I was in dire need just cuz it made every encounter too easy.
Bad Game Design™ obviously amarite...........cuz the devs knew this could happen and left it in.
Or were they giving me a choice to use that tactic rather than just close it off outright.
Cuz in Dark Arisen the tactic still works....they had a chance to patch it out but its a legit tactic.......there is no
"right" way to play a game.
The devs give you the tools, you go ham.
Frey is faster than that enemy, so she can get in and get out super quick.....is that an interesting or even fun way to play....absolutely not atleast to me.
If the enemy agros and keeps following you the encounter gets broken, if their health regens you get Far Cry 2....and trust me you dont want Far Cry 2.
The devs didnt
miss that Frey could hit and run that enemy, they know it can happen, they just dont see a need to force gamers into a fixed play style.
Cheesing is something that even organically shows up in most games, you just discover a way to make the game easy/boring and you yourself decide whether thats how you are gonna play.
A plethora of other great games have enemies like that.
Including Elden Ring, on Torrent you can hit and run so many enemies its a joke....the game actually gets boring and you are doing it just cuz you are grinding or tired of loosing, you arent actually having fun, at least I wasnt.
A bunch of Metroidvania games have it very possible to hit and run enemies who should be a challenge.
If i sit and actually think about all the cheese tactics ive discovered over the years, you guys would say game design is a dead end career cuz all these games are broken as shit.
But thats not the case, if someone wants to cheese their way through a game devs let them.
The Devil May Cry devs know you can replay stages over and over to farm orbs...it would be super easy to block that shit.
Just say after a stage is complete orbs farmed on subsequent playthroughs dont get added to your banked orbs.
But they left it in for every subsequent DMC game, they even commented on it and said, "its a viable strategy.....just a really boring one"....they understand that being too rigid in forcing gamers to play one way, will end up frustrating gamers more than anything.
It feels like you guys want to hate this game so you are being especially harsh to it, if the game aint for you it aint for you.
But hit and run tactics, snipe from afar, turtling all these cheese techniques have been RPG staples for years.
GAF sometimes makes me feel like people here dont actually like games, they just like to bitch about games.......maybe you guys need a new hobby?
Or maybe you are masochists and enjoy letting yourselves get worked up by games you have no intention of actually buying/playing?