They got everything right except the 8Gb of RAM since that was changed after they got their info. They also misinterpreted a couple pieces about the GPU architecture but all in all they were pretty damn close. They also had the Vita specs over a year before it was announced and the Wii U specs well before launch.
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[Forum Rumor] Durango Beta has 2 APUs. Console and Controller plastered with stripes.
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They got everything right except the 8Gb of RAM since that was changed after they got their info. They also misinterpreted a couple pieces about the GPU architecture but all in all they were pretty damn close. They also had the Vita specs over a year before it was announced and the Wii U specs well before launch.
Nah. Probably just developers breaking NDA and posting anonymously.
Other info was corroborated by SuperDaE.
Boss Man
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It's...not though.
There's a reason why people care more about something from EDGE or VGLeaks than a random, short forum post.
I can't tell if you know better and are being difficult, or if you genuinely don't get discernment. If you genuinely think that "all rumors are equal" then I'll explain this to you more deeply. Otherwise I'd rather not waste the time for no reason.
Dreamgazer
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I honestly don't think any of us here are authorities on what VGleak's sources are.
I think you're taking this stuff way too seriously.
It's just a topic in a sea of many. It's not the end of the world.
I only mentioned SuperDaE since VGleaks thanked him for one of their leaks.
captainraincoat
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Sensing that there are 3 camps here...1 camp does not believe rumours and uses logic with some open mindness to make their argument to what it could be ....another camp hopes the rumours are true as the leaks so far have been crap..and the third camp is pro Sony hoping the rumours dont trounce their beloved ps4
Whatever the final specs the reality is a majority of the games will be third party and they wont be much difference between the 2 no matter how much ram or gpus or cpus...the choice may come down to usability and how well it integrates with your lifestyle.
Whatever the final specs the reality is a majority of the games will be third party and they wont be much difference between the 2 no matter how much ram or gpus or cpus...the choice may come down to usability and how well it integrates with your lifestyle.
So they have a decent track record.
If I'm understanding you...
SuperDAE corroborated parts of the vgleaks rumours?
And anonymous devs breaking NDA and posting what where??
Sorry, it's been a long day and your post has left me confused.
Edit: SuperDAE provided their leak... gotcha; although that's not what I was asking!
cyberheater
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Don't worry about it mate. You posted 'Rumour' in the topic title. You did nothing wrong.
Obviously the PS4 rumors are possibly from anonymous devs. I seriously doubt there was a huge security breach from "security analysts" and that was how the info came to them.
Some of the Durango rumors are from SuperDaE, which he also provided to Kotaku.
That's great but, as I said above, that wasn't what I asked!
Thanks though, your other posts have given me a much better background. Until I forget it all again.
Beer Monkey
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BC does matter, it's one of the reasons for Gakai on PS4; people play previous gen games all the time, especially in the first couple of years of new platforms. The "BC doesn't matter" meme needs to die.
Boss Man
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It's not a meme just because a lot of people believe it and you don't...
I want BC. A lot.
But I'm not out of touch with reality. It's not a significant factor for sales.
I think BC played a significant role in PS2's success in the early years.
Against the Dreamcast?
Sorry but no.
DVD playback probably played a much bigger role.
And I love my freaking Dreamcast!
They made the right bet on Blu-ray though.
There was a method to Ken Kutagari's madness afterall.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Well if they are going for a subs pricing model, adding in 360 bc (and I'm not saying this will be necessarily through a second APU) won't be as much of an issue for pricing, as obviously the component cost will go up but that won't matter if MS offer the 720 for £19.99 a month.
Boss Man
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Blu-ray won the format war, but at the same time physical media started to become less significant. I'm sure that on some distant level, Gaikai comes into play here. I think it can be seen (with future goggles) as a gaming Netflix sort of idea.
I suspect that Microsoft will have their own (internally built) solution for this too.
JonathanPower
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Maximilian Kolbe
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1.Well,my fault
2.I did("But i didn't post it because it's from April 1 and he said it's dual APU lol")
3.He still a source i think,even he is Sony fan and seems like to troll(well i should notice that at first)
Hey Reiko, why don't you just confess?
Well I'm not a pothead. But I do confess to loving busty models.
TheChewyWaffles
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It doesn't matter.
Beer Monkey
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So basically pure idiocy led to the PS3, DS, 360, 3DS et al launching with BC. Morons pissing cash away for nothing.
EagleBurnn
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Too many underestimate on how low the games are going to be in the beginning of a new generation when they have so much at their disposal toward the end of the previous gen.
After you bought a $400 console and become limited on how many games you buy for a while, that's the point when you'll be wishing for that BC, and then the complaints will start rolling in for those who don't support it. It dies down after a year or two but it becomes a huge factor after launch.
After you bought a $400 console and become limited on how many games you buy for a while, that's the point when you'll be wishing for that BC, and then the complaints will start rolling in for those who don't support it. It dies down after a year or two but it becomes a huge factor after launch.
Miles Quaritch
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It matters, some people choose believe it doesn't because they don't see the long term benefit of having BC, nor do they consider the damage not having BC will do the digital services of both Sony and MS.
Essentially, digital service viability will likely be decimated when the non firm going populace realise their games don't carry over with their accounts.
Games like Minecraft Castle Crashers, Flower, etc. People will want to continue playing these games into the next generation and with the next console not allowing you to download content you've purchased on the same brand of console - well...
You could argue that Apple set an unrealistic standard in making sure content worked across all their devices, but it's one that people have come to accept as the norm.
Very true.
Monty Mole
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http://m.computerandvideogames.com/333294/ibm-developing-next-xbox-cpu-codenamed-oban-report/
Interesting that it ties in with the above article. Where does this fit in with current rumours and the AMD Jaguar APU?
Or is it just what's going in to current 360s?
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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saw that earlier. I think it's xbox 360, because why would she just put xbox and not "next gen console" or something like that.
the word "migration" is also a stickler.
I guess this is about migrating the Xbox360 vanilla PPC chip to 32nm for the Xbox360 Slim? (or the BC stack in Durango)
What if ( Big IF ) Dev kits are using AMD but the final kits will use an IBM ( OBAN)
Is it possible?
Switching von 8 jaguar cores with ... /I don't know how many threads one Jaguar core has equipped/... threads to a PPC chip with a whole other instruction set?! Don't believe it.
IMHO MS will stick to X86.
edit: It's not impossible though.
edit2: actually there were some more hints about IBM doing the nextbox CPU in the past. I guess we have to wait and see. 32nm just sounds unlikely if they want a small box with low power consumption.
Whatever it is Im sure it will be good for us gamers
But you gotta agree that MS have done really good job lately at keeping it LOCKED with no leaks :S
Thats gonna change in the comming weeks thou.
Maximilian Kolbe
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Is IBM even have 28nm production?
Whatever it is Im sure it will be good for us gamers
But you gotta agree that MS have done really good job lately at keeping it LOCKED with no leaks :S
Thats gonna change in the comming weeks thou.
I expect more leaks from now on as 3rd parties most likely finally got their beta devkits.
@AlfredJodl (your name is disturbing
)Globalfoundries (some IBM alliance partner) has a 28nm production ramp.
Shogmaster
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Oh god, now you assholes have gone to BC via 360 as SOC inside Durango?
NO. FUCKING NO.
MS is not stupid enough go through all the trouble of making a super efficient APU set up and ruin all that work last minute by adding another fucking chip on the mobo that isn't essential to the core operations of the box.
BC by hardware is out. Gone. Deal.
NO. FUCKING NO.
MS is not stupid enough go through all the trouble of making a super efficient APU set up and ruin all that work last minute by adding another fucking chip on the mobo that isn't essential to the core operations of the box.
BC by hardware is out. Gone. Deal.
Exentryk
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Anyone seen this yet? Power VR6, Yebis 2, Paradox Engine... even has that brigade demo http://www.4gamer.net/games/144/G014402/20130403044
What has this got to do with Durango?
Yeah it's not like they never, ever considered it at any point or anything like that...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52446309&postcount=34
Exentryk
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Probably nothing? Article is in Japanese, so I don't know. The guys in follow this kind of stuff, so it would be good if they could get this article translated.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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lmao.
so much anger. What's wrong man?
Whoever said it was last minute?
hell, who ever said it was for the next box?
could be for the xboxTV.
It was in spec diagrams from 2010.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52446309&postcount=34
You are way too angry.
Shogmaster
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For a new system, you consider lots of stuff in the beginning. But that presentation is even before they decided to go with AMD and X86 CPU for fuck sakes (not to mention so out of date that even getting DDR4 as RAM was possibility).
If Durango has Xenon inside for BC, it would have leaked already. Instead what was leaked was that BC is entirely GONE.
So don't fucking turn your wishful thinking into another shitty rumor. jesustittyfuckingchrist, April 29th can't come soon enough....
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