BenjaminBirdie
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AnIco said:
I'm so glad I caught it before the edit.
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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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I'm so glad I caught it before the edit.
:lol
CadetMahoney
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i can see by your av you're still reeling from the effects. heh
BenjaminBirdie
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nofi said:
Yeah, that was the privatest private thing to ever go public.
mentalfloss
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AnIco said:
I missed out.. is it nsfw?
Interfectum
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hc2 said:
Long 6 months for Turn 10 as their lies are unravelled? Yes.
The latest being that photomode looks nothing (visually or camera-wise) like the photomode screens that were banded around for 2 years.
It's pretty low when you have to bullshot photomode pics don't you think?
TheExecutive
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Just watched the giant bomb quick look for Forza. Game looks pretty sweet, GT is gonna have their hands full competing with this game.
mentalfloss
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Interfectum said:
I'm pretty sure the Forza fans are crying inside right now. The PR mogul that lied to them all these years. I can hear the pre-orders being cancelled as we speak.
They're also horrified by the photomode and ugliness of vehicles in Forza. How can they tolerate this madness? Where has all the fun gone?
Oh, how the Forza fan wishes they could rewind time and start all over again. Those poor, poor souls.
Yes, I do fall for the bait every time.
Contradicting reviews or not, I'm glad FM3 is getting good marks. I still can't say T10 deserve to be on the same stage as PD though. Their lighting magic, general graphical prowess (all of this with so much on screen), the obsessive nature with silly things we'll probably never notice, plus the fact they they're highly regarded by auto manufacturers themselves (they developed the multifunction display for the GT-R and body kits for the 350z), puts PD in a different league.
proposition
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It's almost as though PD has five years extra experience.belvedere said:
Here's a point that I'm surprised isn't brought up more...
Now tell me something. What's more challenging and more race like? Having the worst qualifying times and being 8th and trying to win a race? Or having the worst qualifying times and starting off 20th and trying to win a race ? Looking at that screen.... Do the number of cars affect how you would take corners, passes, and so on?
Forza 3 is a great game period. But the number of cars really kills the feel of an actual race in some regards. You bet it simplifies corners and makes it more forgiving to have bad qualifying lap times. Races are just plain crowded events most often. Playing the demo, I just don't get that feeling all that much except at the start of the race and maybe really sharp corners and chicanes.
Now tell me something. What's more challenging and more race like? Having the worst qualifying times and being 8th and trying to win a race? Or having the worst qualifying times and starting off 20th and trying to win a race ? Looking at that screen.... Do the number of cars affect how you would take corners, passes, and so on?
Forza 3 is a great game period. But the number of cars really kills the feel of an actual race in some regards. You bet it simplifies corners and makes it more forgiving to have bad qualifying lap times. Races are just plain crowded events most often. Playing the demo, I just don't get that feeling all that much except at the start of the race and maybe really sharp corners and chicanes.
proposition
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To worm their tongues up the backsides of every car company on the planet.belvedere said:As car enthusiasts or designers?
RSTEIN said:
I think Bish is playing games with everyone :lol
And skulpt, I've rarely encountered a scenario when all the opponents are so spread out--you are literally fighting for 1st place from the get go, and the driver AI is practically devious at times, in terms of stealing corners and drafting (and, thankfully, it's nothing like the demolition derby cars of a game like GRID). It keeps you on your toes and it's a far more rewarding experience for it.
infinityBCRT
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Terrible jpg compression.Interfectum said:
I'm not saying F3 looks better than GT (the lighting is easily better in GT) but cmon folks, stop posting badly compressed pics.
BenjaminBirdie
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Game Analyst said:
I don't know, man. The dev I spoke to on the phone (after being on hold for like two hours!!) assured me his name "Pete Smith" and he was from "Detroit, Pennsylvania".
pixel monkey
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Firewire said:
What a surprise. Firewire has no response when he's called out on the carpet for his nonsense. Don't worry, Fire. If you play Forza in a dark enough room...no one wil find out.
Melfice7 said:
Of course it is. Because no one could ever make a racing title to compare with Polyphony. What was I thinking? Thanks for setting me straight, Mel.
By the way, you may want to stay away from Metacritic and Gamerankings for the next few weeks...trust me on this one.
'm0dus said:
I could have done it the other way though as well, putting all of the 8 cars close together. That still doesn't reflect the longer "wall" of cars you have to get through if you start off say 18th or something.
I will say for the limited 8 cars that Forza 3 does have, they do space them well, with some pretty good AI (instead of predetermined lines), but I can manage to get from 8th to first way too easily. I guess I'm saying a bad qualifying lap doesn't hurt you as much in Forza 3 compared to a real race where you're most likely screwed. I like the risk and pressure of qualifying laps and having to weave through 19 other cars instead of 7.
pixel monkey said:
Called out by you....:lol Your incoherent ranting about GT or Polyphony doesn't even make sense. I don't even think you know shit about sim racing because your posts are simply ignorant. Grow up, get an education it would do you some good...honestly.
Oh and welcome to my ignore list!
Doc Evils said:
No, no. It has nothing to do with how the game looks. We know what the game looks like becuase we've played the demo. Not sure what you mean here.
There's horrible compression of photomode pics just like Forza 2. We assumed (always a dangerous thing) that F3 photomode pics would be exported in glorious detail and the compression would be a thing of the past. The F3 photomode pics released so far (by people who have the game early) have horrible compression. T10 said it has do to with the servers being offline or something and the real photomode pics won't have compression.
BenjaminBirdie
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Doc Evils said:
:lol
Jesus. They didn't turn off Photomode, Mr. Fantastic (get it? because of the reaching?)
So now all of a sudden Photomode is an accurate representation of the game? I thought it was all bullshots!
The actual story is that Photomode was currently exporting compressed-to-shit versions of photos from photomode to users' FM.net accounts. Sorry, FM3 The Actual Game does not play in Compressed-To-JPG levels on your TV so no, that's not "what the game really looks like before release".
:lol
There's plenty GT5 does legitimately better than FM3 and there's plenty that FM3 lacks that you can run with. No need to take these sorts of leaps.
sleeping_dragon
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GuessWho said:
you sound like a fanboy!! GT lover are mostly car racing enthusiast meaning they probably buy both games.
Interfectum
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infinityBCRT said:
It goes way beyond 'just the lighting'.
The in-game models in GT are vastly superior to the menu, replay and photomode models in Forza 3.
Not to mention you have double the amount of cars, fully modelled and viewable interiors and 4xAA.
pixel monkey
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Interfectum said:
With every release in the series, this is always the selling point. The lone selling point. What else is changed? Where and how is Polyphony innovating the genre?
Each time. Every time. This is what GT enthusiasts point to. You guys not only continue to drink Polyphony's Kool-Aid, you bought a fucking stand to try and sell it to the rest of us.
pixel monkey
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Firewire said:
The last bastion of a petulant child...when you can't defend your assertions, lash out with personal attacks. Firewire, ladies and gentlemen! Firewire! :lol
sleeping_dragon
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shpankey said:
The onus is on you mate, prove to me that 10 millions GT fan dont buy a Forza game.
infinityBCRT
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Theres a trade off between the car detail vs. track detail in GT5 and F3. But I doubt 99% of people will really notice it in reality. You're not playing the game while zoomed into the headlights or trees. And hell you're not watching replays like that either.Interfectum said: