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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35

Keikoku

Banned
belvedere said:
You mad


and wrong

That must be why this thread was pretty much quiet since Forza 3 was released and critically confirmed as being the new standard. I always said (last time it even was on this thread) that its sales would be inferior to GT anyway, so there's absolutely no reason to be mad. And it'll do better eventually, October NPD are only counting 2/3 days after the release of the game.
 

Chinner

Banned
belvedere said:
You mad


and wrong
lets be honest though, gt nad forza hold nothing compared to mario kart.

Mario kart
+ best gameplay (its fun)
+ best graphics (bright colours equal fun)
+ best sound effects and happy music
+ encourages friendship and teamwork
+ wide range of ethnically open characters
+ inspired by socialism
+ Best sales

Gran Turismo
+ Cars have 4 wheels
- encourages hatred and deceitfulness
- jews did 9/11
- Incredibly inspired by capitalism - does not sure the negative aspects of capitalism

Forza
+ You can draw penises on cars
- You'll get banned for having a penis on your car
- tries to portray immigration as a bad thing
- Incredibly inspired by capitalism - does not sure the negative aspects of capitalism
 
Shurs said:


:lol
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Guys. I know that there's been a lot of subtle trolling(And blatant) in this thread. But this isn't really necessary or in "good taste". Sure I personally think T10 deserves it for all their smack talk and shouting, but it's not a good thing for F3 to perform so low. Sure Iknos is a unbiased and saintly hero, worthy of our "choir singing" but he was right however little that Forza as a series has pushed Gran Turismo harder.

You can rip into either game all you want, but cheering at low sales isn't cool. And yes I know that sounds extremely corny and lolz GT will sell 50 bajillion copies anyway. BUT competition is a good thing as evidenced by this generation and the battle between the 360/PS3.
 
ZoddGutts said:
Yeah but it could have done much better. Heck Little Big Planet sold more than that in the same amount of time, it sold 215,000 in four days and that's with the PS3 having a userbase less than half of Xbox 360. heh

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171328

People were calling that game a "bomba" what does that make Forza 3 in comparison?

Not to mention LittleBigPlanet was a new IP and Forza 3 is the definitive racing title of this generation, a sequel to the previous definitive racing title of this generation.

Hellboy ain't going to be too happy about this...
 

Shawsie64

Banned
Chinner said:
lets be honest though, gt nad forza hold nothing compared to mario kart.

Mario kart
+ best gameplay (its fun)
+ best graphics (bright colours equal fun)
+ best sound effects and happy music
+ encourages friendship and teamwork
+ wide range of ethnically open characters
+ inspired by socialism
+ Best sales

Gran Turismo
+ Cars have 4 wheels
- encourages hatred and deceitfulness
- jews did 9/11
- Incredibly inspired by capitalism - does not sure the negative aspects of capitalism

Forza
+ You can draw penises on cars
- You'll get banned for having a penis on your car
- tries to portray immigration as a bad thing
- Incredibly inspired by capitalism - does not sure the negative aspects of capitalism

Best post in thread
 
I'm quite surprised and disappointed, though not THAT surprised since post-launch there's been a big silence in activity just in general. It's a phenomenal game in every aspect, so I'm just not sure what the deal is. Possibilities include the death of racing games in America, proximity to Modern Warfare 2... who knows.

We will know in regards to how it compares with GT5, and also how it sells in subsequent months.

I'm sure it'll cover costs, but I don't consider that a success.

We'll see how things go for the rest of the holidays. Outside of MW2, AC2 and ODST there's not too many big games on the 360 for the rest of the year, so it could hold steady and end up doing alright.

Here's hoping.
 
I normally would buy a game like Forza 3 but it really is just cars racing around a damn track again. It was done well enough in Forza 2. PGR4 was a better game in terms of features because it at least added weather which was "new" to driving. I think GT5 is going to have the same issue.

Racing has to widen its net. Test Drive Unlimited is where these games need to go...but with the proper driving model, weather, and expanded and integrated community features.

There is a minority of people who are turned on by how simmy something is and I'm unsure if that minority can support extremely expensive developments like Forza. The games need to be more accessable and more interesting to get a big enough audience.
 
I like how shurs is happy that forza sold so many in 5 days, but could care less that MW2 is a 30 fps shooter on ps3. how about sales of MW2 even with the million pirates will be almost 3 to 1 in favor of 360 compared to user base less than 2-1. shurs doesn't care MW2 looks better on the 360 but has made 10 posts in the thread he doesn't care about BTW he owns a 360... lets see if its banned.
 

tass0

Banned
Scottlarock said:
I like how shurs is happy that forza sold so many in 5 days, but could care less that MW2 is a 30 fps shooter on ps3. how about sales of MW2 even with the million pirates will be almost 3 to 1 in favor of 360 compared to user base less than 2-1. shurs doesn't care MW2 looks better on the 360 but has made 10 posts in the thread he doesn't care about BTW he owns a 360... lets see if its banned.

:lol
 

Shawsie64

Banned
Scottlarock said:
I like how shurs is happy that forza sold so many in 5 days, but could care less that MW2 is a 30 fps shooter on ps3. how about sales of MW2 even with the million pirates will be almost 3 to 1 in favor of 360 compared to user base less than 2-1. shurs doesn't care MW2 looks better on the 360 but has made 10 posts in the thread he doesn't care about BTW he owns a 360... lets see if its banned.

I dont even,... :lol :lol
 

Shurs

Member
Scottlarock said:
I like how shurs is happy that forza sold so many in 5 days, but could care less that MW2 is a 30 fps shooter on ps3. how about sales of MW2 even with the million pirates will be almost 3 to 1 in favor of 360 compared to user base less than 2-1. shurs doesn't care MW2 looks better on the 360 but has made 10 posts in the thread he doesn't care about BTW he owns a 360... lets see if its banned.

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skyfinch

Member
Prologue didn't exactly light up the charts.


GT5: Prologue release Date, April 17th.

April 2008 NPD
Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - PS3 - Sony - 224,000, 14 days


October 2009 NPD
Forza 3: 175,000, 5 days.
 

Shurs

Member
skyfinch said:
Prologue didn't exactly light up the charts.


GT5: Prologue release Date, April 17th.

April 2008 NPD
Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - PS3 - Sony - 224,000, 14 days


October 2009 NPD
Forza 3: 175,000, 5 days.

One is a Prologue. The other is the definitive racing game of this generation.
 

skyfinch

Member
Shurs said:
One is a Prologue. The other is the definitive racing game of this generation.


Well, either way, I'm certain that the "definitive racing game of this generation" has managed to outsell a Prologue in the same about of time.
 

Massa

Member
skyfinch said:
Prologue didn't exactly light up the charts.


GT5: Prologue release Date, April 17th.

April 2008 NPD
Gran Turismo 5: Prologue - PS3 - Sony - 224,000, 14 days


October 2009 NPD
Forza 3: 175,000, 5 days.

GT5 Prologue was also released on PSN.
 

Shurs

Member
Scottlarock said:
what?? you must have checked your own post history, because I'm going totally off of memory.

Edit: I'm being overly harsh. There's obviously something wrong with you. I think it's time I slowly back away.
 

skyfinch

Member
CrushDance said:


From the numbers I can find (don't know what it sold over PSN), Prologue sold 224,000, in 14 days. I'm positive that Forza 3 has managed to go past those numbers in its 14 days.
 
skyfinch said:
From the numbers I can find (don't know what it sold over PSN), Prologue sold 224,000, in 14 days. I'm positive that Forza 3 has managed to go past those numbers in its 14 days.
And so it might. But that's not indicative of lifetime sales at all between titles such as Mario Kart and GT where they sell massively at the beginning due to other regions and constantly therefrom. Forza sold what, ~200k or something in the UK? Something like 30k in Japan and 175k in the US. GT5 alone will clear a million in its first month, mostly due to Japan and Europe. I agree that NA isn't the biggest market for racing games, maybe Nascar will help a little(Doubt it). But even so, that just swings things even more in the other two's favour.

I fail to see what the argument here is. Many games are called "bombas" for not selling 1million out the gate(Insert PS3 exclusives here) but go on to sell millions after bundles and so forth. I don't think anybody is saying that Forza as a series is a failure commercially, F2 sold 3mil+ last time I checked.

However, GT will sell even more than F3 first month NPD and continue to sell well, 500k+ isn't unralistic. I can see it reaching 6m+ rather quickly if a "demo" as many called it around here cleared 4m+ in 1.5 years.

Forza isn't a bomba, it's competitive. But in sales? It's not definitive. People are talking about it not being able to live up to the talk.
 
Shurs said:
Edit: I'm being overly harsh. There's obviously something wrong with you. I think it's time I slowly back away.
good move, but you still said you owned a 360 and then hated on the popular game released at the time but this was awhile ago
 

skyfinch

Member
CrushDance said:
And so it might. But that's not indicative of lifetime sales at all between titles such as Mario Kart and GT where they sell massively at the beginning due to other regions and constantly therefrom. Forza sold what, ~200k or something in the UK? Something like 30k in Japan and 175k in the US. GT5 alone will clear a million in its first month, mostly due to Japan and Europe. I agree that NA isn't the biggest market for racing games, maybe Nascar will help a little(Doubt it). But even so, that just swings things even more in the other two's favour.

I fail to see what the argument here is. Many games are called "bombas" for not selling 1million out the gate(Insert PS3 exclusives here) but go on to sell millions after bundles and so forth. I don't think anybody is saying that Forza as a series is a failure commercially, F2 sold 3mil+ last time I checked.

However, GT will sell even more than F3 first month NPD and continue to sell well, 500k+ isn't unralistic. I can see it reaching 6m+ rather quickly if a "demo" as many called it around here cleared 4m+ in 1.5 years.

Forza isn't a bomba, it's competitive. But in sales? It's not definitive.


Well, I'm not exactly arguing. Just trying to defend 5 days of sale which some idiots think is equaled to 30 days.

There is absolutely no doubt that GT5 will outsell Forza 3. And I'm almost certain that Forza 3 won't make it past Prologue in it's lifespan.
 

Shurs

Member
Scottlarock said:
good move, but you still said you owned a 360 and then hated on the popular game released at the time but this was awhile ago

I'd be willing to put up my GAF account against yours if you can prove that I have claimed that I own a 360. What do you say?

I've certainly stated that I was considering picking one up, and I still am. I almost snagged one at Walmart last weekend when they had the $100 girft card deal, but I picked up a TV instead.
 
Shurs said:
I'd be willing to put up my GAF account against yours if you can prove that I have claimed that I own a 360. What do you say?

I've certainly stated that I was considering picking one up, and I still am. I almost snagged one at Walmart last weekend when they had the $100 girft card deal, but I picked up a TV instead.
I will put up my account that you said what I said. I searched your history and I can only go back 3 months. what you said was a year ago or more. so I'm asking a mod if they have past history beyond 3 months without deleteing stuff. I remember it was around the forza 2 time, so maybe 2 years ago. maybe in proving I'm right, I will get banned since banned bets are a no-no, so do I step back and say no ban bet and not get banned but look like I'm lying, or take you bet which might get banned when I win for taking a banned bet? what to do, take the bet and get banned, not take the banned, but look wronged..... hmmmm
 

Shurs

Member
Scottlarock said:
I will put up my account that you said what I said. I searched your history and I can only go back 3 months. what you said was a year ago or more. so I'm asking a mod if they have past history beyond 3 months without deleteing stuff. I remember it was around the forza 2 time, so maybe 2 years ago. maybe in proving I'm right, I will get banned since banned bets are a no-no, so do I step back and say no ban bet and not get banned but look like I'm lying, or take you bet which might get banned when I win for taking a banned bet? what to do, take the bet and get banned, not take the banned, but look wronged..... hmmmm

I've only been a member since December. So, you know, less than a year. I just don't think it's fair for you to call me a liar and claim that I pirate games. That's some shit right there.

Edit: I wasn't aware that ban bets were off limits. I looked at your tag and assumed that they were cool. So if the mods could make an exception this one time I'd like to make it happen. My word against your account. I'm that confident.
 
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