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Photomode is how fanboys see the game in the racing mode.zoukka said:
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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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He was commenting on the quality of the models, not swearing an oath that the graphics look like that in-game. Photo modes always look better, it's just that none have ever looked this good before.zoukka said:
Hey, you don't need knowledge and experience when you have emotion!LabouredSubterfuge said:
GT5 has been 'beated'. How we live with ourselves in this brave new world, no-one knows.
Diablohead
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Glad to hear gt5 has that stuff, makes it all betterMetalmurphy said:
supermackem
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SmokyDave said:
Ive never understood photomode shots being used by people with any game to show the games look. They are all full of shit doesnt matter what game they come from.
I'm not sure if that is the case with GT5 though. The photomode in GT5 is approaching photo-realism with a decent cameraman, I doubt anyone could sincerely believe that they're in game.supermackem said:
It isn't a tool to one-up other people on the internet, it's there for car lovers to share their passion with each other. That people are using to try and one-up each other (unless they were specifically boasting about the quality of photo-mode) is probably making poor Kaz cry
Metalmurphy
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shinnn said:when I said the rally in GT was rushed? I'm talking about the damage system in GT5.
Yeap, Forza beat GT in quality, and GT beat Forza in sales. No doubt about that too. GT5
Or... They actually find GT to be fun and filled with content, and as such the better game. Ever thought of that? Driving in GT5 > Driving in Forza 3. Stop looking at individual factors and look at the whole fucking package.
Forza 3 has better IQ, no tearing.
GT5 has better graphics, physics, content.
Forza 3 has a robust livery editor.
GT5 has weather and time transitions.
etc.
Like I said, to each is own.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Richard Burns Rally remains THE standard for any rally sim.zoukka said:Real damage, show stoppers, like in the best rally games. Richard Burns rally for example. I spit at the direction of Dirt games
If only I can afford a Force Dynamics rig:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNhfulLJPcY
Things I learned from coming back to this thread
a) better AI needs to be unlocked in GT5 (just like damage wtf)
b) Standard cars in gt5 don't look as good as the cars lifted from forza2 to forza3 (remember guys, 360 ->360 and ps2 -> ps3)
c) Anyone who gets as aggravated as some of you do because someone doesn't like "your" game has to have a few screws loose in the head.
a) better AI needs to be unlocked in GT5 (just like damage wtf)
b) Standard cars in gt5 don't look as good as the cars lifted from forza2 to forza3 (remember guys, 360 ->360 and ps2 -> ps3)
c) Anyone who gets as aggravated as some of you do because someone doesn't like "your" game has to have a few screws loose in the head.
I do wonder though, all this talk about new standards and other developers crying...
Sorry but, suddenly what matters is the Photo Mode feature of a game? Isn't that sort of pathetic? That the photo mode is the big thing?
Because they don't actually reflect the level of quality you get in gameplay, for starters....
And they are just hot air. Borderline passive aggressive, specially when you come of a "Here's what i think!!!!!!!!...but to each his own"
Sorry but, suddenly what matters is the Photo Mode feature of a game? Isn't that sort of pathetic? That the photo mode is the big thing?
Because they don't actually reflect the level of quality you get in gameplay, for starters....
zoukka said:
And they are just hot air. Borderline passive aggressive, specially when you come of a "Here's what i think!!!!!!!!...but to each his own"
painful fart
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shinnn said:
"PD adding the average rally driving ever."
Don´t really know what to answer that one, your posts are just not connected to reality.
I guess car simulators is just not your thing.
Lagspike_exe
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Thread's on fire with all the Mario Kart pix.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Mario Kart, like Richard Burns Rally mentioned above, has also been used on a Force Dynamics rig. It must be superior, Chinner wins!Chinner said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBVOnT36Qw4
Or his standards for rally sims are higher. You really should check out RBR. Especially if you have a higher-end wheel setup.painful fart said:
painful fart
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Things have progressed since GT3/GT4.....zoukka said:
Littleberu
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Insertia said:
Clearly, the low framerate is directly related to the superior physics system of GT5. Also, mortal eyes can't really comprehend the genius of GT5 graphics, nor can standard electronics. This test is obviously flawed.
Diablohead said:Oh hey I can play that game too.
Forza 3 has:
Equal detail across all tracks, not a mix of last gen visuals.
Custom FOV degrees for cockpit view via screen settings
Up to 5 screen multi-screen, even the ability to use one screen as a rear view mirror!
Deep customization for tuning and visuals
Online marketplace to sell user made liveries and vinyls
Auction house to sell tuned vehicles
Online photomode gallery
Matchmaking with trueskill rank
Real time tire flex
All 500+ cars can roll over, smash up and lose bumpers, wing mirrors ect
All 500+ cars hack a cockpit
Higher res real time shadows
I like forza 3 quite a bit, and still waiting for GT5 to be delivered, but man, tracks are not 'that' detailed. They look good but nothing overwhelming. Reminds me of SEGA's coloured arcade style which i love, but even a year and half ago, Suzuka looked way better in GTPrologue. besides, all that online marketplace, auctioning is like GT5's RPG style. Some people like it,some hate it. I just do not like it, as i do not like GT series slow progress either. Hopefully a patch will allow GT5 progress to be easier and quicker.
And damage, and rolling over , may be interesiting in nascar, whcih F3 does not have, but i have always seen racing as trying to avoid collisions, and hardly see semi-destroyed cars wining races.
DangerousDave
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LyR said:
It's not that they compiled GT4 in a PSP in a couple of hours. At least they should have been working during a year in GT PSP, also converting the assets because PSP don't reach the level of PS2. And all this work is not a half asset of GT5, because they had to lower the GT4 car level to fit in the PSP, not the reverse.
Also, Forza team was over 300... without counting external contracted (probably testers). PD are 110 people. A third part.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Noone wants damage modeled properly so that they can win in a busted up car, they want proper damage modeling so if another car buys it, they're properly out of the race. Yeah, they may end up taking someone else in the process, but that's racing. We all want a realistic sim, right?tzare said:
LiquidMetal14
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One thing I've noticed about the look is it's really clean in GT5. I play in 720p and everything looks sharp. The lighting is what makes the bigger difference in these games.
Metalmurphy
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So now the only good thing in GT5 is the Photo Mode :lol
brotkasten
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Pretty much.Metalmurphy said:
That, and the other 98% of this game
Lagspike_exe
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Metalmurphy said:
Yeah, but nobody cares about it!
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Before? ;Pzoukka said:
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
That and............well...........there seems to be nothing else of note. Nothing at all.Metalmurphy said:
XiaNaphryz said:
yup, but you can do it in other ways, damage is not necessary (visually). It is a nice/cool feature, but it is accessory.I see many things in both games that should go first: framerate/tearing in GT5, few cars in Forza and some of them that should be fixed before going further.
flyinpiranha
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zoukka said:
Completely disagree. I played a couple courses in Arcade in the snow and it was awesome. I also owned DiRT 2.
Metalmurphy
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Yes, I'm organizing an Online League. Wanna join?shinnn said:ok.. it's already a goal for you guys
"you guys" :lol
Windom Earle
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Metalmurphy said:
:lol
Insertia said:
Laughing faces and random words? Who are "they" and what is funny about them and what they supposedly have to do? I don't get it. Maybe it made more sense inside your head.
Edit: Wait, you're already on my ignore list, how the hell did I see your post. oh well..
Ryu Hayabusa
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OMFG!! The Sonic Cycle is broken and now the GT Cycle coming!!shinnn said:
Windom Earle
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shinnn said:
We already know that you're just here for the trolling, it's ok.
Lagspike_exe
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watership said:
There's a patch announced that should ease up the framerate drops, which should reduce tearing.
Stripper13
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Insertia said:
How do I get to play the game looking like this? Granted my experience with wet weather in GT5 is limited... but when I chose a premium car in cockpit view, racing with rain... it was a PSOne style mess. I'd love to be able to play the game looking like that.
Insertia said:
You're right... they have set new standards. From now on - all racing game developers should strive to have 20% of their models/assets looking photo-realistic... the other 80% can be ported from previous games/generations as filler. Nice standard :lol
Stripper13
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SmokyDave said:
It's not my TV. For your information - I used an 07 Mustang with Red Paint on High Speed Ring in the rain. It was fucking awful. Worst of all - it wasn't a glitch - I can repeat it over and over. I don't know if it's just the car, the track, shadows maybe?, or maybe a combination of everything - but it looks like it belongs in a PS1 game... everything else in that scenario looked fine (same car/track etc in fine weather looked awesome), but something is seriously fucked up with the rain. I haven't checked it again since the patch though
*Runs to check*
Edit: Yep just checked again... it's atrocious. Everything else in that scenario looks fine, the other views are still awesome, and the weather/lighting/cars etc look amazing as a whole... but the rain effect on the windshield is beyond a joke.