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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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theignoramus
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What does Forza have to do with wanting to play GT5 years before it releases?
FM2 was great, but it certainly wasnt eye candy. I certainly dont play both franchises for the same reason.
LordPhoque
Banned
-viper- said:Direct feed Forza 3 screens
Yeah... not really. Game looks much better in motion. Going to play the demo again, keep "debating" :lol
jakonovski
Member
theignoramus said:
So if GT
is the same as full GT5, what are you so excited for then? The point is that it's a hollow shell of a game, a demo masquerading as a real product.
Interfectum
Member
Doc Evils said:
Forza 3 demo pretty much settled the graphics debate.
2007 demo > 2009 demo.
Your throne is safe PD take your time.
Mohonky
Member
akachan ningen said:
I've found the game in motion doesn't have that same problem. The cars colours and lines look really flat in screenshots but they look much much better in persona and in motion, it's something that really doesn't show up in screen grabs.
Having played GT5P and Forza 3 demo now;
Visuals: GT5P, mostly because of the lighting looks more 'real' than Forza. GT5P just does something with the lighting that produces less contrast but gives it a more realistic look. It's not the day and night difference many people wish it was though, GT5P can be rather jagged and theres a big contrast between photomode and in-game with GT5P. A lot more aliasing, less detail and less visual fidelity overall but still edges out Forza 3.
Cockpit view: GT5P, less detail in Forza 3, nice but not up to GT5P, but then car models in general do look better in GT5P.
Handling: Forza 3. The cars feel so much more tactile and they really vary. Driving the Evo X it really felt 'flat' before coming onto the turbo and it really changed the way I approached corners in the car knowing I wouldn't have the immediate torque response I would get from a large NA powered vehicle. There are just so many more subtleties to the way the Forza engine handles than GT5P.
Audio: Forza 3. Not much of a surprise for me, Forza 2 could easily discern different exhuast notes better than any GT game I've played. Good soundtrack too.
AI: not even a comparison to make, Forza 3.....and 2 for that matter. Car braking won't work in this game as crashes actually completely fuck you up and the AI will actually take measures to avoid you and each other.
Features: Can't really compare with GT5 supposedly going to have some damage, weather etc but we pretty much already know what Forza 3 has so for the moment it's a forgone conclusion.
jakonovski
Member
m0dus said:No, actually, it was there for people who wanted new cars and tracks. and it Are you under the assumption GT won't have DLC?
I just dislike DLC in general. So much expenditure for so little actual content.
theignoramus
Member
Those direct feeds look alright, but its 60 fps, so the claims that it will look better in motion are absolutely true. Also, direct feeds always look worse when viewed from a close distance on a 20 inch monitor. Different story on a sizable tv.
God this thread.:lol
I hope you gents are going to actually DL the Forza 3 demo instead of you know analyze pictures.
Been playing it for the last hour,it looks very,very good,those posted direct feed pics are hilariously bad but in this thread they will no doubt be used for nefarious purposes.
I hope you gents are going to actually DL the Forza 3 demo instead of you know analyze pictures.
Been playing it for the last hour,it looks very,very good,those posted direct feed pics are hilariously bad but in this thread they will no doubt be used for nefarious purposes.
jakonovski
Member
Interfectum said:
60fps has its price, although in F3's defense, environments are much more important than the cars you only really look at in replay mode.
Littleberu
Banned
Dabanton said:
You talk as if anyone here has the intention of being partial in any way.
Windom Earle
Member
-viper- said:
Not so great...
theignoramus
Member
Wtf? It was the prelude to a full game that was years away.So if GT
it may have been a "demo masquerading as a real product", but the graphics and presentation seem to be fully competitive with 2009 retail products, so I guess purchasing it seemed wise in hindsight. (especially if you game on a large, 1080p television.)
jakonovski
Member
Dabanton said:
The true mark of the forum wars veteran is that he or she never plays the games involved, because all their time time is spent typing posts.
LordPhoque
Banned
Dabanton said:
How would they without a 360 ?
GT5 "delay" is causing a lot of anger it seems...
theignoramus
Member
the demo is exclusive to Gold members. at least wait until it's free to all before attacking people for not playing it.
But you guys *have* the demo, so why exactly are you in here?
But you guys *have* the demo, so why exactly are you in here?
Windom Earle
Member
Mohonky said:
GT5p uses 4XAA in 720p and also supports native 1080p, (ok, it's slightly below, but still better than 720p) so it should win the "jaggy battle" from a tech point of view.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Apex said:
As if environments in the GT series even come close to looking as good as these screens in game, just like the FM3 demo car pics. The difference is FM3's environments look pretty good in game but not so much the cars, while the cars would look better in GT but no much the environments.
The cool thing is when we compare gameplay videos and not still pictures, we'll see who wins the "debate"
have fun discussing pictures guys, I'm off to try and DL the demo. :lol
akachan ningen
Member
Even in this comparison, it's like night and day. The textures in the forza car look like they have absolutely no depth.m0dus said:More like midday and mid-morning.
And you're comparing direct-feed with off-screen. off-screen enhances contrast. (yeah, the contrast is not really the big difference, it's the textures. Turn down the contrast if you must, it's still better.) find something with similar overhead (IE, NOT tangential!) lighting conditions.
Some tangential lighting pics:
I'm sorry, I thought this thread was about comparing the two games' graphics.
Wow. That looks horrific. Somebody take off-screen shots so we can see what it really looks like.
theignoramus
Member
No, Prologue's London and High Speed Ring environments look pretty amazing. it's not the texturing that does it tho, it's the way its lit.
StriKeVillain
Banned
It's like the car is even disgusted. Look at the tail lights! :lolakachan ningen said:
Wow. That looks horrific. Somebody take off-screen shots so we can see what it really looks like.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o_ffEHUQ_0
new roll over video, doesn't look as bad as I saw from another video earlier.
new roll over video, doesn't look as bad as I saw from another video earlier.
Interfectum
Member
Windom Earle
Member
striKeVillain! said:
Can not be unseen :lol
A fair comparison now would be to compare F3 demo pics to GT5p pics. GT5 bullshots do not help.
A writer for the Top Gear website just trolled Forza:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/gran-turismo-5-ferrari-458-tribute-2009-09-24
On a serious note, this is a pretty dismal result for Che; that even on the brink of the release of the third game in the series, it's still viewed as an arcade game.
http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/gran-turismo-5-ferrari-458-tribute-2009-09-24
:lol :lol :lol
On a serious note, this is a pretty dismal result for Che; that even on the brink of the release of the third game in the series, it's still viewed as an arcade game.
Big Shirtless Ron
Member
whoa, photorealism is here.Interfectum said:So do ppl still think that GT 458 trailer was CG
In game pics from http://www.gamersyde.com
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_gran_turismo_5-11618-1865_0003.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_gran_turismo_5-11618-1865_0005.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_gran_turismo_5-11618-1865_0006.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_gran_turismo_5-11618-1865_0012.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_gran_turismo_5-11618-1865_0015.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_gran_turismo_5-11618-1865_0016.jpg
Interfectum
Member
Hyoushi said:
Didn't you know Top Gear and the BBC have already been discredited in this thread :lol
LordPhoque
Banned
Hyoushi said:
For one website, yes.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Interfectum said:
Their ties gives them much legitimacy conflicts of interests are awesome.
"On a serious note, this is a pretty dismal result for Che; that even on the brink of the release of the third game in the series, it's still viewed as an arcade game."[/I]
What outlet related to gaming has viewed it as an arcade game before this new PR by TG? :lol
akachan ningen
Member
Hyoushi said:
He shouldn't feel too bad, he's just the community manager.
Mohonky
Member
schennmu said:
It should but it doesn't. It's a little less jaggy but it definitely has jaggies. I've played it on my previous set (720p) and my current (1080p). It's not horrible but they are definitely there which surprised even at the psuedo 1080p res.
Still the better looking game over all, but Forza took quite a big step up in the visuals after 2 to make them at least closer.
As an over all going off GT5P and Forza 3 I would lean toward Forza 3 over all as the better driving experience. GT is more a game for collecting exotic cars, Forza 3 more a game about driving them; what Forza 3 lacks in polish and presentation it makes up for in driving, where what GT lacks in driving is made up for in supreme visual representation and presentation.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
LordPhoque said:
Exactly. Not that dismal for Che when millions of people can decide for themselves whether or not its an arcade game as of three and a half hours ago. It's not like they have to take Top Gear's word for it.
LordPhoque
Banned
skybaby said:
Even without.
jett said:Sure why not? The comparison shows a two year-old game with twice the amounts of cars on screen has better anti-aliasing.
Do you really think that FM3 looks like on those gamersyde screens ?
Well I guess that's what you call self persuasion.