ResidentDante
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I've always thought this, however getting people down from their high GT horses will be impossible. The world they see just has GT and a PS3 in itkneePat said:
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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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Risk Breaker
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ResidentDante said:I've always thought this, however getting people down from their high GT horses will be impossible. The world they see just has GT and a PS3 in it
Nah not always, you know I play a shit ton of Gears for example, yet I'm a GT fan and I simply don't like Forza even if I really try to.
Some people are like that though, but not only with GT and Forza, it also happens with Gears and Uncharted, Gears and Resistance... Some people don't like videogames, they like videogame companies :/
ResidentDante
Member
Sadly yesRisk Breaker said:
I guess you're right, in the end they just look on the logo of the company and hate/love it. Any racing fan should own both GT5 and FM3/FM4. Tons of racing fun in each title, ups and downs of ideas in both too.
eso76
Member
dejay said:God - I thought this thread long gone.
Here's some screen shots I just took to throw some fuel onto the fire...because that's all this thread is good for.
Remember folks - concede nothing!
Which reminds us reviews for GT5 were bullcrap.
You can't penalize the game THAT MUCH for being unpolished and disappointing in regards to the time it took to develop.
If you're stubborn enough to keep attaching numbers to reviews then you're only doing a disservice to your readers by making GT5 appear like a semidecent game, while it certainly was a milestone.
eso76 said:
This is what happens when you have a game with unsurpassed highs coupled with unsurpassed lows..
Isn't it defence 101 to discredit reviews that you don't personally agree with?
And yes, I'm just messin' with ya..
I find it hard to come down on either side of the fence, but I have a preference, it's like I have one leg resting on the ground on one side (FM), but still have the other leg dangling over the otherside (GT)..
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Okay I have to take part in this as I almost commented in the Forza thread but I didn't want to derail the thread.op_ivy said:
What's the deal with that Subaru? It doesn't look _that_ good. The overall lighting and car model is good but the backlights and rims are awful and that is near photorealistic? LOL. I've seen better Forza 4 screenshots.
Forza 4 does look good but cmon, do I need to post some GT5 photos? Seriously, and this isn't even my Sony-fanboy speaking.
Also the fact that certain car models are wrong is a huge thing in my books. This is a car racing game and they fuck up the models, and then some of you are okay with this?
I've probably spent more time in photomode than racing in GT5/F3.Izayoi said:
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
I'm so glad how FM4 turned out. (I have a review copy)
Theres a huge leap gameplaywise over 3, great leap graphically and very VERY impressive leap in the sound department, despite some flaws in the modeling of some vehicles and lighting on tires I don't see how some people can keep hating on the franchise.
Give the damn demo an honest try and hop on the Zonda to do the rivals mode, I doubt you will walk away unimpressed.
FM4 is an excellent racing experience top to bottom.
Look at how we are getting Spec II from kaz, this is what needs to continue to happen. Competition is awesome.. We end up winning.
Theres a huge leap gameplaywise over 3, great leap graphically and very VERY impressive leap in the sound department, despite some flaws in the modeling of some vehicles and lighting on tires I don't see how some people can keep hating on the franchise.
Give the damn demo an honest try and hop on the Zonda to do the rivals mode, I doubt you will walk away unimpressed.
FM4 is an excellent racing experience top to bottom.
Look at how we are getting Spec II from kaz, this is what needs to continue to happen. Competition is awesome.. We end up winning.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
I know the feel bro, I was the biggest GT fanboy back in the day. I know how damn ignorant and defensive one can be when you are on your camp.Angst said:I would if I had a 360. Joke posts aside F4 seems to be a really good game and I've said as much in the F4 threads.
Post full of win.
But perhaps we wouldn't have any competition between the franchises if it weren't for the fanboy bickering?
eso76
Member
Hyoushi said:
You can, but in the end your 'score' (the number people seem to feel lost without) will be meaningless if not totally misleading.
GT5 has a 84 score, yet it's undeniably among the best games on ps3, and the best (or second best
) racing game on consoles. So what does that 84 tell us ? If reviewers still can't get rid of numbers, then the numbers they choose should at least tell us something about the overall quality of the game.
Diablohead
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Toxa said:winning pic
Both games can look rather real, I like that.
eso76
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forza 4 can look very real. Not quite there with the gt5 best moments, but almost.
when you see the game running on a properly calibrated tv you'll see for yourself.
can't be stressed enough, ADJUST BRIGHTNESS when the game prompts you to and be generous. Game tends to crush blacks. Toning saturation down slightly will help too.
i love my car.
Also, bigshots take too long to render, you won't see a lot of them around i'm afraid
when you see the game running on a properly calibrated tv you'll see for yourself.
can't be stressed enough, ADJUST BRIGHTNESS when the game prompts you to and be generous. Game tends to crush blacks. Toning saturation down slightly will help too.
i love my car.
Also, bigshots take too long to render, you won't see a lot of them around i'm afraid
p3tran said:
See, this is why i cant take some of you seriously, it really has nothing to do with the love for racings sims but more of a hate towards GT or hate towards forza, there are a lot of things that both games do right, there are also some things that both games do wrong... take this pic for example, notice the difference in elevation change? Notice how much closer the GT5 track is to the real thing? Yet people make stupid comparisons like 2d vs 3d trees, like it actually noticeable when you're zooming by at 150+ mph.
SPEEDxNASTY
Neo Member
Why so much fuss and drama about who's the winner? Its only a pure waste of time and display of useless pride in my opinion (unless you're all immature brats)... why not try give constructive criticism and smart comments?
Well, maybe I'm too optimistic to expect more from the internet...
GT5 cars and lighting DOES look overall better than FM4 in pictures, in-game FM4 runs smoother and is technically more consistent/solid, each have their qualities and flaws.
If only Polyphony hadn't done a half assed job with their standard and premium bullshit and given as much attention to track details, that would have been a real achievement (if we put aside the online racing experience...).
...and don't forget that the Xbox360 has a smaller engine displacement and less horse-power than the PS3.
Well, maybe I'm too optimistic to expect more from the internet...
GT5 cars and lighting DOES look overall better than FM4 in pictures, in-game FM4 runs smoother and is technically more consistent/solid, each have their qualities and flaws.
If only Polyphony hadn't done a half assed job with their standard and premium bullshit and given as much attention to track details, that would have been a real achievement (if we put aside the online racing experience...).
...and don't forget that the Xbox360 has a smaller engine displacement and less horse-power than the PS3.
djplaeskool
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SPEEDxNASTY said:
This is a troll thread. Plain and simple.
Any reasonable person will tell you that both games are great.
Hell, they are exclusives on different consoles, so for me, calling them direct competition is even a stretch.
H_Prestige
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No. The 360 has more graphics power than the ps3, more usable RAM, and is easier to develop for. Forza devs can't use this excuse. They were given a better toy to play with than PD.SPEEDxNASTY said:
SPEEDxNASTY said:
Because these games are just a vehicle (lol) for their fanboyism. Almost no one talks about the actual gameplay and just compares graphics.
But yeah, alot of the thread is trolling. It makes me laugh at the ridiculousness of it, and keeps it out the official threads. Works for me.
GTP_Daverytimes
Member
Toxa said:winning pic
Mind blowing pic.
The Stealth Fox
Junior Member
Reviewers like polish over ambition (not saying F4 isn't ambitious at all, but GT5 tried to spread its wings far and wide).
It's the same reason Alpha Protocol gets panned while everyone eats up Mass Effect 2. Not saying GT5 is as janky as Alpha Protocol though.
It's the same reason Alpha Protocol gets panned while everyone eats up Mass Effect 2. Not saying GT5 is as janky as Alpha Protocol though.
SPEEDxNASTY
Neo Member
Ok, I get it.
So trolls wins them all.
Dat modelling, dat lighting, dat attention to detail, photo realism awesomeness.
Can't race it online or put a bodykit on it though.
So trolls wins them all.
Dat modelling, dat lighting, dat attention to detail, photo realism awesomeness.
Can't race it online or put a bodykit on it though.
BruiserBear
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kneePat said:
Your point. You don't seem to have one.
I said I'm buying Forza 4, but GT5 still looks better.
So by that statement you assumed I've never played a Forza game? I've sunken many hours into Forza 2, Forza 3, and even recently I played the Forza 4 demo. So yeah. I've given it a shot, and GT5 is the more attractive game overall.
Now, if we're talking the best overall videogame, I'd give Forza 4 that nod.
brotkasten
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Seriously, even Mario Kart 7 for the 3DS has modeled cockpits for all karts!shinnn said:HA-HA-HA
Diablohead said:
Both games can look rather real, I like that.
Indeed.
GTP_Daverytimes
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malyce said:
See, this is why i cant take some of you seriously, it really has nothing to do with the love for racings sims but more of a hate towards GT or hate towards forza, there are a lot of things that both games do right, there are also some things that both games do wrong... take this pic for example, notice the difference in elevation change? Notice how much closer the GT5 track is to the real thing? Yet people make stupid comparisons like 2d vs 3d trees, like it actually noticeable when you're zooming by at 150+ mph.
I have said this before, the elevation changes in Forza tracks are almost non-existent. Sure you notice them but when you compare it to the real thing it becomes apparent how different it is. The game looks awesome but Turn 10 has to start modelling tracks and cars right.