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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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Metalmurphy
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bud said:
SSR7
Risk Breaker
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Terribad AI.
brotkasten
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This is 2010 all over again. At least do new gifs and come up with new complains. Dan being a douche is so 2009.
The Stealth Fox
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The night driving and the wet driving are absolutely terrifying in GT5. So awesome.
Gafapastismo
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Risk Breaker said:
and terrible collision system too
GT5 is one of most beautiful games ever made
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPWsueT8pw8
I think Forza must continue growing to reach GT5's level
The Stealth Fox
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Maybe the improved physics in Spec II will improve collisions also?! HYPE
Risk Breaker
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Gafapastismo said:and terrible collision system too
Yeah, that's like, PS1 bad.
Metalmurphy
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Risk Breaker said:
Terribad AI.
Holycrap. I don't think even I could have avoided that. Any more gifs showing the updated AI?
brotkasten
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FixedThe Stealth Fox said:
Gafapastismo
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Metalmurphy said:
It is from B Spec Mode
Risk Breaker
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Gafapastismo said:
Yeah, crazy B-Spec AI... you can take the best drifting pictures thanks to them.
BTW the PS1 remark was sarcastic. Just in case.
GTP_Daverytimes
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Niks said:From the Forza 4 OT.
No night races, dynamic time of day or weather?
-3 laps.
Also where is Dan whats his name? For Forza 3 he was all over the media, with definitive this definitive that... what happened to him? Did MS tell him to shut up or something?
We need new material to work with...After all, who can forget this gem.
So, props to Kazunori Yamauchi-san and the PS1 team. That said, I feel that hes passed us the baton. Perhaps he hasnt meant to, but we have taken the genre to new levels and theyve stopped evolving the genre. So again, tremendous respect to him, but Id say the differentiator is theyre old school. The emperors naked, and I dont want to, you know, I dont want to slap him around, but no game competes [with] us right now.
Over at GTplanet i was arguing with some of the Forza fans, and they seemed to brush off things that Forza doesn't have (Like night races, weather, rally and etc). Whenever it came for us to talk about GT5 they tore it to pieces, whenever it comes to a game someone likes they become extremely defensive. I wish people will just take off the blindfolds and appreciate the good parts of both games
Being someone who thought GT 5 would be amazing and then was severely disappointed with horrible menu loading and some poor game design issues, i am glad the new crown of glorious racer is now Forza's. Those guys make game frequently, are able to keep up, and i like the direction they are going with their design.
The Stealth Fox
Junior Member
I like the direction Turn 10 is taking the series. Maybe in Forza 5 the car will drive for me!
what does Gamespot mean by this?
"Forza Motorsport 4 innovates the racing genre with controller-based racing, as well as the power and freedom of the Kinect."
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/forza-motorsport-4/index.html
"Forza Motorsport 4 innovates the racing genre with controller-based racing, as well as the power and freedom of the Kinect."
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/forza-motorsport-4/index.html
My theory: Turn 10 only do things that they know they can pull off well, which is why they didn't do things like different surfaces, night racing and weather as they would've come off looking substandard. Whatever their limits (whether it be the console or just raw talent) they knew how to push *but* work within them. Everything they attempted they did amazingly well, but they didn't attempt everything.GTP_Daverytimes said:
PD on the other hand, I see as having spread themselves too thin. The things they pulled off they did an amazing job of, but there were other aspects that didn't have anywhere near the same level of polish. Overall, did they do more things well than Turn 10 did with Forza 4? I'd say they're about equal. But it's the other things that they tried to do yet pulled up short on, such as the horrible mip-mapping (I think that's what it's called) with all particle (smoke, dirt, spray) effects and shadows, GT4-quality cars, loading times, GUI layout, over-promoted yet under-utilised game modes such as rally and NASCAR and lastly, head tracking.
Honestly, and even though I'll admit I sit firmly on the Forza-fan side of things, I think Turn 10 were wise in their decision to not bite off more than they could chew. Sure, it means that they have a few less bullet points but in the end it means that their package (to me) is more complete than GT5 was. If only PD had not tried to squeeze in so much half-baked content then an apples-for-apples comparison would be easy. As it stands... we have this thread.
drifter444
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Both games look amazing! Here are some Forza 4 pictures that I found.
RukusProvider
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Framerate on the GT5 gif's is better than the actual game. Also, no tearing. Anyway to play the game in gif mode?
Ploid 3.0
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malyce said:
Hah this dude is crazy, I was wondering what he would do when it got pitch black out since it has no head lights. I love this track, mostly when the sun is going down, pitch black out, and when the sun is coming up. The noon thing is pretty standard for every track. When visibility is challenged it gets scary good.
Polyphony said:
Seriously, he must be able to play this track blindfolded.
The Stealth Fox
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You can actually buy cars with real money in Forza 4. Soon Forza 5 will be free to play with microtransactions because the game will BOMBA
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
malyce said:
GT5 doesn't get enough credit for its lighting. I can't think of another game that has more realistic dawn/dusk lighting. It's insane.
phosphor112
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Gafapastismo said:and terrible collision system too
GT5 is one of most beautiful games ever made
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPWsueT8pw8
I think Forza must continue growing to reach GT5's level
While GT's collision isn't great... it certainly beats the over exaggerated collisions and flips that are present in the FM series.
phosphor112 said:
The collision physics could be improved, but there's only so much you can simulate without proper deformation. The gif shows a moderately accurate depiction of an inelastic collision. In a real case scenario, the WRX would have crumpled the back of the Celica and the cars would have dissipated the rest of the energy into the tire barrier. Car crashes at these speeds aren't 100% inelastic, so they would experience a bit of bouncing. I certainly wouldn't expect the WRX to flip over the back of the Celica or something.
In GT5
, we would be seeing bumper cars lol.NullPointer
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Ain't that the truth.jett said:
What Forza provides is consistency, and a better game. But I've yet to play any game where the driving feels as satisfying as GT5. Haven't given Forza 4 a short yet though - guess I'll find out how it handles soon enough.